Keratin Treatment Support Thread

and Br*nze!!

:grin:

Your hair with highlights is incredible. I'm so scared to do the highlights again.. I want them but then I remember every single time I got highlights My hair would break off.. well that was not knowing how to properly moisturize my hair.. Folks scared of heat.. I'm scared of coloring/bleach!!! :lachen: My plan is to transition using the BKT.. my natural texture isn't unmanageable.. it's just that I was so clueless about other stuff. But I know without a relaxer my hair will take color good and I really won't have to worry about breaking off (now knowing what I know).

Thanks so much dear.. that pic was AFTER the cupid shuffle!! :lachen::lachen: And it was still "SKRAIGHT".

The BKT posse
sheba
cutens
VJ
AJJ
Br*nze

I know I'm missing somebody.. but I read this thread until my eyeballs fell out. It was totally worth it.
 
Hey Fab and Veejee :wave:
I want in on this conversation. Isn't BKT the yummiest?:lick: Veejee, will Aveda do highlights on naturals? Fab, I love you new avatar. It doesn't even look like you...you look HOT!! :yep: Not that you didn't before, but I love straight hair. Anyhoo, I don't see pics in your fotki, do you have any? Or do you have to have a special password. I don't know any...BUT PPPLLLEEEAAASSSEEE! :pray:

Well DANG!!! :look: :lachen::lachen:
I added you to my friends list; I think you should be able to see them.


and Br*nze!!

:grin:
Well you been MIA!!! How are you darling??

Anywho Bellas.. I am back with information on NANOKERATIN.. and I am definitely taking the plunge. Here is what I got back from them

Hi *Fab*
Thank you for your questions!
The treatment is not permanent-- it lasts about 3-6 months depending on the formaldehyde's percentage and care. The Nanokeratin System is not a relaxer, it's a treatment that leaves your hair straight (depending on the formaldehyde's percentage), repairs damaged hair leaving it very shiny and soft. It also reduces frizz 100%.
We have four different formulas that contain different amounts of Formaldehyde: 0%. 0.2%, 2%, 3%
The recommended re-application depends on the the percentage of formaldehyde used, the type of hair and care given to it. However the average time is between 3-6 months.
Please see the attachment, you will find all of our prices there.
If you are interested in trying our products I recommend you buy the Try Me Kit for $260, this Kit is enough for two treatments.
I hope I have answered all your questions-- If you have further questions please feel free to contact me.
all best,
Lorena
646-403-4504


Now that it is not permanent and you can PICK how much formaldehyde or what not you want in it.. I am so hyped!!! I am definitely getting it. Plus here are the alacarte prices. I am only putting the single smaller sized amounts (since that's what I think everyone is interested in).. you can check out the big sizes' prices at www.itseasynottobefrizzy.com

Clarifying Shampoo
$18 13.5 oz
$12 7 oz

Hair Therapy Cream (aka BKT)
$110 13.5 oz
$60 7 oz

Nanokeratin Magic Touch - This leave in conditioner, straightens, repairs, and coats the hair with Nanokeratin. THe result is stronger, shinier, and more vibrant hair. This product prevents static and protects hair when heat is applied.

Nanokeratin hair shampoo
$28 11 oz

Titanium Flat iron
$136
$32 3.5 oz

So much of their other stuff looks so cool too!!!
 
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I haven't completely read through this thread yet, but I just really wanted to post and say thanks to everyone here because without you all my hair would still be a super ball of frizz. I had major frizz issues. Well anyway two weeks ago I received my soft-liss and applied. I straightened my hair afterwards and hated the results, but when I did my wash n go I fell in love. I had super defined curls with no frizz. Throughout the day I kept waiting for frizz, but it never showed up. I love it. Considering this was my ultimate reason for trying the Keratin Treatment I'm super excited. I'll be updating my siggy later this week with my results. Thanks again!!!
 
I haven't completely read through this thread yet, but I just really wanted to post and say thanks to everyone here because without you all my hair would still be a super ball of frizz. I had major frizz issues. Well anyway two weeks ago I received my soft-liss and applied. I straightened my hair afterwards and hated the results, but when I did my wash n go I fell in love. I had super defined curls with no frizz. Throughout the day I kept waiting for frizz, but it never showed up. I love it. Considering this was my ultimate reason for trying the Keratin Treatment I'm super excited. I'll be updating my siggy later this week with my results. Thanks again!!!

I'm so glad that you're happy with your results!!! Welcome to the BKT family......
 
Thank you! :) I LURVE Softliss! I don't think 4 weeks is too soon. My first BKT (Global) was on April 17, then I did one on June 27th and yesterday August 11. I waited 10 weeks between the first and second treatment and 6 weeks between the 2nd and 3rd.

I only did this treatment because it helps to "seal" in the color and prevent fading. I have some new growth that hasn't been texlaxed so I want to see how it does after my next shampoo. If my hair doesn't frizz I'll keep doing BKT's, if it does I'll texlax and then do a BKT for bone straight results. :yep:

Veejee, your 3rd treatment turned out so NICE!!!! I'm so tempted to do another one.... I told myseld I would wait at least 6 months.
 
Well BKT ladies, it has been 3 1/2 months since I did my last treatment. I so miss the straight hair and the no frizz!

I attached a picture of my hair right after the treatment and what it looks like now. I also included a close up picture of my tight curls and the frizz associate w/ it...

I think I'm going to try to hold out for another 2 weeks before I do another one.

Everyone hair looks so good!!
 

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Fab,

I'm so mad I didn't do this back in 2007 when I was 100% natural.:ohwell: I was too chicken. Shoot, I only know as much as I do about BKT from Sheba1, she should write a BKT book!:yep:

Awww :blush3: nooooo! We've all been learning and teaching each other. I love my knowledgeable BKT family!

There are some truly gorgeous heads of hair amongst you all, also. Get it, ya'll!

Just WOW!!! Brittany's hair has REALLY taken off since she started doing BKT. Her thickness is LOVELY, and her hair is the healthiest it's been. I love her hair!!!
http://public.fotki.com/brittanynic16/hair/new-me/may-09/5ecd48d631b11250447.html

Girlfriend, yesss! And have you seen the update in her youtube channel? :thud: Really beautiful results. :yep:

Jan 2009: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bak-igzBSr4
May 2009: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdxhmUgMZxA


Veejee, your 3rd treatment turned out so NICE!!!! I'm so tempted to do another one.... I told myseld I would wait at least 6 months.

Woah, Titansgirl! I thought I was really doin somthin trying to wait for 3 months and here you are about to 6! Gwon girl! :lol: How are you going to style your hair between now and then, buddy? Any protective styles, at all?
 
Awww :blush3: nooooo! We've all been learning and teaching each other. I love my knowledgeable BKT family!


Woah, Titansgirl! I thought I was really doin somthin trying to wait for 3 months and here you are about to 6! Gwon girl! :lol: How are you going to style your hair between now and then, buddy? Any protective styles, at all?

Hey Sheba,

I'm actually at 3 1/2 months. I'm trying to hold out for 6 months, but I'm missing my straight hair. I have been wearing 1/2 wigs and wash n go's for the last two months.... I'm actually in the experimental mode with my hair. I just wanted to see what would happen to it if I didn't do another treatment right away. I started using regular shampoo and conditioners this week.
 
Veejee, your 3rd treatment turned out so NICE!!!! I'm so tempted to do another one.... I told myseld I would wait at least 6 months.

Titan,

I heard the BKT was good to getting after hair color because it "seals" it in and prevents fading. I'll probably wait awhile, maybe..lol, before I do another one. I want to get about 12 - 16 weeks of new growth THEN try a treatment like QOD Gold, Rejuvenol, Nanokeratin, but only on my new growth. I don't think I'll BKT the length of my hair until I get my highlights retouched. :)
 
Hey Sheba,

I'm actually at 3 1/2 months. I'm trying to hold out for 6 months, but I'm missing my straight hair. I have been wearing 1/2 wigs and wash n go's for the last two months.... I'm actually in the experimental mode with my hair. I just wanted to see what would happen to it if I didn't do another treatment right away. I started using regular shampoo and conditioners this week.

I THINK I could strech my BKT out 3 months but that new growth is a BEAST. I have to hit the roots every month or so and since I'm not relaxed its not till the second treatment that the roots get to match the rest of the BKT hair.

I always had problems with the texture change though. When I was relaxed I found that if I made it close to 8 weeks I would start breaking.
 
Well DANG!!! :look: :lachen::lachen:
I added you to my friends list; I think you should be able to see them.



Well you been MIA!!! How are you darling??

Anywho Bellas.. I am back with information on NANOKERATIN.. and I am definitely taking the plunge. Here is what I got back from them

Hi *Fab*
Thank you for your questions!
The treatment is not permanent-- it lasts about 3-6 months depending on the formaldehyde's percentage and care. The Nanokeratin System is not a relaxer, it's a treatment that leaves your hair straight (depending on the formaldehyde's percentage), repairs damaged hair leaving it very shiny and soft. It also reduces frizz 100%.
We have four different formulas that contain different amounts of Formaldehyde: 0%. 0.2%, 2%, 3%
The recommended re-application depends on the the percentage of formaldehyde used, the type of hair and care given to it. However the average time is between 3-6 months.
Please see the attachment, you will find all of our prices there.
If you are interested in trying our products I recommend you buy the Try Me Kit for $260, this Kit is enough for two treatments.
I hope I have answered all your questions-- If you have further questions please feel free to contact me.
all best,
Lorena
646-403-4504


Now that it is not permanent and you can PICK how much formaldehyde or what not you want in it.. I am so hyped!!! I am definitely getting it. Plus here are the alacarte prices. I am only putting the single smaller sized amounts (since that's what I think everyone is interested in).. you can check out the big sizes' prices at www.itseasynottobefrizzy.com

Clarifying Shampoo
$18 13.5 oz
$12 7 oz

Hair Therapy Cream (aka BKT)
$110 13.5 oz
$60 7 oz

Nanokeratin Magic Touch - This leave in conditioner, straightens, repairs, and coats the hair with Nanokeratin. THe result is stronger, shinier, and more vibrant hair. This product prevents static and protects hair when heat is applied.

Nanokeratin hair shampoo
$28 11 oz

Titanium Flat iron
$136
$32 3.5 oz

So much of their other stuff looks so cool too!!!

I don't see any prices on the site!! Also do you have to call them to order? This looks very interesting with all the different levels of formaldehyde. Also if they sell it in a 7 oz. for 60.00 that's cool. Please update/ post pics if you decide to do it!!
 
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I THINK I could strech my BKT out 3 months but that new growth is a BEAST. I have to hit the roots every month or so and since I'm not relaxed its not till the second treatment that the roots get to match the rest of the BKT hair.

I always had problems with the texture change though. When I was relaxed I found that if I made it close to 8 weeks I would start breaking.

I have the same issue, I'm working out and sweating a lot and my hair is growing like a weed, wait until I post progress pictures! I showed my son my newgrowth last night and he was like :shocked:

I have to do a BKT this weekend or else wig it all next week, like I am doing this week. My hair does not enjoy the texture difference, so low-no main styling is best until I do the treatment. My hair loves protein/moisture treatments so I'm happy to say I have minimal breakage.

I am going to try to focus on my roots moreso with this treatment if that's possible, more passes at the roots, and less all the way through to the ends. To see if that will help the BKT last longer at the roots. I purchased a min-Babyliss 1/2" Nano Titanium FI that goes up to 430 degrees. I'll let you know how that works out for me. I'm using Softliss again for this treatment.
 
Hello ladies,

I have been reading BKT threads for weeks now and after seeing a few of the heads on here (and Britany's progress!) I have decided to take the plunge. I was going to go with softliss and have been emailing them a bit but after Fab just posted the latest info on the Nanokeratin I think I will go with that one-if they sell to non-stylist.

I'm glad you posted the seperate prices Fab because the Try Me kit was a bit expensive and I see why with the iron thrown in (which I'm sure most of us don't need). If I get the 7oz treatment, clarifying shampoo, and after shampoo I'll be happy.

Fab can you buy these seperately for sure? Will they sell to non licensed stylist?
 
Hello ladies,

I have been reading BKT threads for weeks now and after seeing a few of the heads on here (and Britany's progress!) I have decided to take the plunge. I was going to go with softliss and have been emailing them a bit but after Fab just posted the latest info on the Nanokeratin I think I will go with that one-if they sell to non-stylist.

I'm glad you posted the seperate prices Fab because the Try Me kit was a bit expensive and I see why with the iron thrown in (which I'm sure most of us don't need). If I get the 7oz treatment, clarifying shampoo, and after shampoo I'll be happy.

Fab can you buy these seperately for sure? Will they sell to non licensed stylist?

YAY Muse!!! Welcome punkin!!
Anyway; I believe you don't have to be a stylist.. she never asked me if I was. We'll find out today when I try to place my order. A couple of friends want me to BKT them so I am getting the 13.5 oz one for $110. I just am mad that I know I'm gonna love that leave in.. and it's $32 for 3.5 oz.. :( I keep going back and forth.. the kit is a wayyy better value.. and slightly more expensive since you get 2 of everything... arrgh!! Decisions! Decisions!! I just need to find someone who needs a flat iron.. lol. It gets hotter than the FHI.. 455.

Now the question is what to get.. ? I have never had the one with formaldehyde.. and everyone says that they get you straighter.. so I was thinking do I get the 4% or the 0%.. because shoot if you're gonna do it.. might as well go all the way. I will just have to do it outside with my mask on...

Those who have used BKT with formaldehyde and softliss.. which one gets you straighter; I don't care about it lasting longer, as I plan to do it once a month regardless so that the keratin can build up on my hair. Because if the formaldehyde does not make it more straight then I might as well not risk my lungs.. :lachen:
 
Thanks Fab! Excellent! Can't wait for you to place your order. Hope it goes well so we can order too. I'm mostly natural 4b so I will probably need 3-4% but I will try 3% first to see if I can get good results with less.




YAY Muse!!! Welcome punkin!!
Anyway; I believe you don't have to be a stylist.. she never asked me if I was. We'll find out today when I try to place my order. A couple of friends want me to BKT them so I am getting the 13.5 oz one for $110. I just am mad that I know I'm gonna love that leave in.. and it's $32 for 3.5 oz.. :( I keep going back and forth.. the kit is a wayyy better value.. and slightly more expensive since you get 2 of everything... arrgh!! Decisions! Decisions!! I just need to find someone who needs a flat iron.. lol. It gets hotter than the FHI.. 455.

Now the question is what to get.. ? I have never had the one with formaldehyde.. and everyone says that they get you straighter.. so I was thinking do I get the 4% or the 0%.. because shoot if you're gonna do it.. might as well go all the way. I will just have to do it outside with my mask on...

Those who have used BKT with formaldehyde and softliss.. which one gets you straighter; I don't care about it lasting longer, as I plan to do it once a month regardless so that the keratin can build up on my hair. Because if the formaldehyde does not make it more straight then I might as well not risk my lungs.. :lachen:
 
I don't see any prices on the site!! Also do you have to call them to order? This looks very interesting with all the different levels of formaldehyde. Also if they sell it in a 7 oz. for 60.00 that's cool. Please update/ post pics if you decide to do it!!

Now that I have some time.. here are the prices for everything...

NK Clarifying Shampoo
105 oz $ 82.50
13.5 oz $18
8 oz $12

NK Hair Therapy Cream (aka the BKT)
105 oz $ 555.00
13.5 oz $110
7 oz $60

Hair Power Improving Mask
24 oz $180 (I really want to see what this one does..for this kind of $)

NK Magic Touch (Leave In)
3.5 oz $32 (I want this sooo bad)

NK Hair Shampoo
11 oz $28

Titanium Flat Iron
$136

NK Hair Spa Keratin
11 oz $275 (another one that better have some magical powers)

Spa Keratin Kit $249
11 oz Hair Spa Keratin
11 oz Hair Shampoo
3.5 oz Magic Touch Leave In (1)
**see how they push you into the kit**

All the other prices I think I posted for the other kits. They have yummy descriptions as to what this stuff does.. but its a PDF. If you guys want it.. PM me your email addy and I'll forward it.

I'm gonna call in a few. I think you can probably email your order or call it in. Still don't know what kind of BKT (forma no forma) to get from them!!!

ETA: It'll be next month for me.. but I will try to gain permission from one of my "clients" aka friends.. to post their hair pics. They all pretty much have delicious looking hair so I can't wait to see what the BKT is gonna look like.
 
YAY Muse!!! Welcome punkin!!
Anyway; I believe you don't have to be a stylist.. she never asked me if I was. We'll find out today when I try to place my order. A couple of friends want me to BKT them so I am getting the 13.5 oz one for $110. I just am mad that I know I'm gonna love that leave in.. and it's $32 for 3.5 oz.. :( I keep going back and forth.. the kit is a wayyy better value.. and slightly more expensive since you get 2 of everything... arrgh!! Decisions! Decisions!! I just need to find someone who needs a flat iron.. lol. It gets hotter than the FHI.. 455.

Now the question is what to get.. ? I have never had the one with formaldehyde.. and everyone says that they get you straighter.. so I was thinking do I get the 4% or the 0%.. because shoot if you're gonna do it.. might as well go all the way. I will just have to do it outside with my mask on...

Those who have used BKT with formaldehyde and softliss.. which one gets you straighter; I don't care about it lasting longer, as I plan to do it once a month regardless so that the keratin can build up on my hair. Because if the formaldehyde does not make it more straight then I might as well not risk my lungs.. :lachen:

Fab,

I think the one with formaldehyde gets your hair straighter. My first BKT was Global 2%. My hair was so straight it would barely hold a curl. After a couple of weeks my rollerset did pretty well. I also think Global lasts longer. I didn't like the fumes or the wait that's why I went the Softliss route. :yep:
 
Fab,

I think the one with formaldehyde gets your hair straighter. My first BKT was Global 2%. My hair was so straight it would barely hold a curl. After a couple of weeks my rollerset did pretty well. I also think Global lasts longer. I didn't like the fumes or the wait that's why I went the Softliss route. :yep:

Thanks girl!! Were the fumes really really bad??? Okay then I should stick with the 0% Nanokeratin...

See now you got me scared about the fumes... don't want to have low birth weight babies or whatever they say comes along with that.. lol..
Gosh.. maybe I'll get 13.5 oz of 0% and 7 oz of 2%...
 
I asked my stylist about this treatment and she told me that this will not replace a relaxer. She told me that I should get a relaxer first then 3 wks after, she will give me a BKT. I want to try this, but I am not sure. A friend of mine goes to her and she has been doing this for about 1 year now. Her hair is beautiful, thick, and straight! She alternates by relaxing/BKT/relaxing. She relaxes twice a year and BKT once. Her hair is bone straight all the time!
 
Thanks girl!! Were the fumes really really bad??? Okay then I should stick with the 0% Nanokeratin...

See now you got me scared about the fumes... don't want to have low birth weight babies or whatever they say comes along with that.. lol..
Gosh.. maybe I'll get 13.5 oz of 0% and 7 oz of 2%...

Fab,

I didn't have a fume extractor but I did the treatment by my patio and it was a total hot mess. My Softliss would've lasted longer but the the toner and the bleached from my highlights removed some of the treatment. It wasn't as bad as I expected thought, instead of 100% straight it was about 80% straight and that's AFTER the color. I would err on the side of caution and maybe stay under 2%. Have you thought about Peter Coppola, the one SouthernTease uses? I LOVE how her curls looks (even though I don't want want to fool with my curly hair..LOL).
 
I just emailed Nanokeratin and asked if you had to have a license to purchase. I don't believe you found this out yet right Fab?

If it hasn't already been posted I will let you all know what they say.
 
I asked my stylist about this treatment and she told me that this will not replace a relaxer. She told me that I should get a relaxer first then 3 wks after, she will give me a BKT. I want to try this, but I am not sure. A friend of mine goes to her and she has been doing this for about 1 year now. Her hair is beautiful, thick, and straight! She alternates by relaxing/BKT/relaxing. She relaxes twice a year and BKT once. Her hair is bone straight all the time!

I'm doing this except I relax every 3 months. I did my lalst BKT 3 weeks post relaxer. I'm planning on doing the next one 4 or 5 weeks post.
 
I a textlaxer BKTer I know I need both because my textures even with the BKT on the roots are too different. I love it though. My fine normally fragile hair is doing great!! I use the Mizani BB mild for my textlax and I make sure not to overlap my relaxer. The cellophane color and the BKT makes it stronger.

If I didn't have to color my gray my BKTs would last longer. I think the sweat helps it to wear off but not as much as my color.
 
Hey ladies! There is A LOT of great info in this thread, so thanks for that, but I'm still a bit confused about a few things. First off, i went to the Soft-liss website and saw nothing about a BKT there. Is the product they call "intelligent brush" their actual treatment? If I decided to try, it would definitely be soft-liss b/c I want a form free product.

Also, any 3B fine haired naturals doing BKTs? I would love, love, love to know this so I can talk to you more about your experience. Anyone experience thicker hair because of the keratin bonding process?

Thanks in advance for ur responses ladies!
 
I a textlaxer BKTer I know I need both because my textures even with the BKT on the roots are too different. I love it though. My fine normally fragile hair is doing great!! I use the Mizani BB mild for my textlax and I make sure not to overlap my relaxer. The cellophane color and the BKT makes it stronger.

If I didn't have to color my gray my BKTs would last longer. I think the sweat helps it to wear off but not as much as my color.

I can't believe you have grays.
 
I THINK I could strech my BKT out 3 months but that new growth is a BEAST. I have to hit the roots every month or so and since I'm not relaxed its not till the second treatment that the roots get to match the rest of the BKT hair.

I always had problems with the texture change though. When I was relaxed I found that if I made it close to 8 weeks I would start breaking.

I can't believe you have grays.

Thank you...my hair is the only thing on me that decided it wants to act its age! LOL I don't have many grays, but I have a gray streak in the front that's actually cool looking with the cellophane on it, and most of my stray grays are in the front just enough to bug me a little bit. They look like highlights when I cellophane them.
 
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