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Dak said:
The last treatment I did was with the QOD. One of the hardest things about this process is the clarifying shampoo you use prior to application. It essentially strips your hair of any product/oils/conditioners. So natural hair at that point is very fragile, any type of blow dryer will work, heck, you could probably air dry if you had the time. Some ladies wash their hair in sections, which makes it easier to detangle once wet. I don't see where a pre-treatment will do any good, since the clarifying shampoo is going to remove it, unless you see that it will help with detangling.

No way will this hinder any growth, just be sure and have the right shampoo on hand (no sodium sulfate). Good luck! Take pictures!
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Thanks for taking the time to answer my questions. I appreciate it. I'll most definitely take before and after pics.
 
Awww, thank you sweet S :yay:. I flat ironed my hair today for the first and it was blinging! I get good shine on my natural hair but flat iron, WOW! Unfortunately, this makes me want to flat iron more which is a big no no. BKT is great but I might have to go on a weave challenge to get my hands out of my hair :yep:.

sheba1 said:
All this beautiful hair! :yay: I have to come back to go into details. Things have been crazy crazy busy.

Mystic, Congratulations!!!! I'm so very happy to hear of your great results on the second time around. I'm telling you, you and I were so in the same boat. The difference between the 1st and 2nd was so dramatic. Girlfriend, you just wait, though, til month three!
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asuperwoman said:
Thanks for the tip! I just ordered QOD GOLD from ebay and can't wait for it to get here!

I do have some questions for anyone who may have the answer: what kind of blowdryer do you use?? Do you use a plain handheld? A handheld with comb attachment? Or do you sit under a hooded dryer??

just curious. I'm going to have to buy a dryer and want to know which one to buy for my BKT.

does anyone do any type of pretreating?? I pressed my hair today and plan to just leave it be until my BKT gets here.

does it matter what my hair condition is now? I'm a thick headed 4b, and my hair is in decent condition.

I've been growing my hair out for the past 18 months with braids, went through the big chop and am now reaching neck length (which is the longest my hair has been in a loonn time) THANKS LHCF!! but anyway-- the BKT doesn't hinder growth does it?? Any special instructions to not only maintain growth but keep growing with BKT??

thanks so much!!! I'm sorry if these questions have been answered before, but this is a very long thread. :)
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I will answer your questions in the order they were asked(per my opinion and experience):

I used a hand held lowdryer. It is a BabyLiss Ceramic. I di have a diffuser on the end. The "HOT SOX". I think any handheld will do. Do not use the comb attachment. Its not necessary.

No pertreating needed. You are going to clarify wash anyway.

It doesn't matter what condition your hair is in, BKT can handle it. From my research(and I did A LOT of it), the more damage the hair the better.

BKT should help with hair growth in the fact that your hair will not require much manipulation when wet. WHich means you can wash and deep condition more often. I wash /DC 3x a week. Wash n gos are a staple for many BKT'ers here. Make sure that you watch the ingredients in the products you use post BKT. NO sodium chloride(salt), and SLS, because they can strip your BKT. And remember your protein/moisture balance.

HTH :yep:

ETA: This is what I use 3x week:
Wash with HairOne Olive Oil
DC with Yes TO Carrots adn Aphogee 2 Minute Reconstructor (protein/moisture)
Leave ins are GVP Potion #9 and Nexxus Headress (protein/moisture) on hair ONLY
JBCO/MT mixture on scalp only
I also use the Aphogee ProVitamin and Green Tea Reconstructor spray
 
cutenss said:
I will answer your questions in the order they were asked(per my opinion and experience):

I used a hand held lowdryer. It is a BabyLiss Ceramic. I di have a diffuser on the end. The "HOT SOX". I think any handheld will do. Do not use the comb attachment. Its not necessary.

No pertreating needed. You are going to clarify wash anyway.

It doesn't matter what condition your hair is in, BKT can handle it. From my research(and I did A LOT of it), the more damage the hair the better.

BKT should help with hair growth in the fact that your hair will not require much manipulation when wet. WHich means you can wash and deep condition more often. I wash /DC 3x a week. Wash n gos are a staple for many BKT'ers here. Make sure that you watch the ingredients in the products you use post BKT. NO sodium chloride(salt), and SLS, because they can strip your BKT. And remember your protein/moisture balance.

HTH :yep:

ETA: This is what I use 3x week:
Wash with HairOne Olive Oil
DC with Yes TO Carrots adn Aphogee 2 Minute Reconstructor (protein/moisture)
Leave ins are GVP Potion #9 and Nexxus Headress (protein/moisture) on hair ONLY
JBCO/MT mixture on scalp only
I also use the Aphogee ProVitamin and Green Tea Reconstructor spray
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You sound like a BKT pro! i will certainly take heed to your advice. Especially thanks to the first bolded, i would have used the comb attachment had you not said anything. And, at the second bolded ::yay::woot: I'm looking forward to that. Now, I don't co-wash at all (when I'm not in braids) and I only dc once every two -three weeks because it's a JOB to do so. Sounds like my hair is going to love bkt!

thanks again!


You helped out a lot.
 
I just washed out my home BKT. I was very pleased with the results. I did have to re-flatiron my hair after the first day because the southern louisiana humidity was way tooo much for my hair. But days 1-4 were great. I was very careful to moisturize my ends and edges.

I planned on rollersetting with the BKT to help me with retention, but I ran out of time so I slicked it back into a ponytail to let it airdry. My hair is almost completely dry and its very soft. I combed my curls out so its not curly but its straight and big with no frizz. In the morning I plan on flat ironing it straight again, straight from the airdry. Depending on the results, I may give up on roller-setting for the time being and just airdry, then flat-iron.

Sorry no pics of days 1-4, I'm traveling and I left my camera behind.
 
Is Hawaiian Silk 14-in-1 safe for BKT hair? I checked the ingredients and I didnt see any sodium or sulfate
 
I can't wait til my softliss gets here.I was in braids til friday, I have washed and conditioned my hair over the weekend.My hair is natural,I'm wearing a short braid out. I "so would like to use BKT for retention and maintenance
 
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Fab's Updated BKT Regimen!

Poos:
Keratin Complex Color Care (gotta make my Caoba colorshowers last) 1x per week
Blended Beauty Soy Cream Shampoo (really makes my hair soft) 1x per week OR
Curls Cleansing Cream (no sodium chloride; but does have a sodium product)

Conditioners:
Keratin Complex Daily Conditioner (I use this as my starter conditioner for every wash; especially if I don't use the Poo)
2nd Conditioners
Yes to Tomatoes Con
Yes to Cucumbers Con
Curls Coconut Sublime (for Cowashing)

Leave Ins:
Giovannini Vitaprofusion (spray heat activated treatment)
Keratin Complex Infusion
KBB Super Silky or Jasmine's MR for blowdrying/flat ironing
KBB Nectar for rollersets (find my hair needs something heavier)

Morrocan Oil (Flat ironing)
HV Avosoya Oil (Rollersets; also because hair needs something heavier)

Rollersetting spray bottle: Water 3 squirts of YTsomething conditioner (shaken up)

Finishing: Keratin Complex Thermo Shine

Nightly Regimen.. moisturize with Super Silky or Jasmine's MR.. seal with Moroccan oil.. and wrap with silk scarf.
 
I am soooooo excited! I'm taking my twist out today and I'm doing my first ever BKT tomorrow! :D I'm using global which I ordered from ebay.
I just have a quick question. I have a flat iron that only goes up to 410. Do any of you think this will be a major problem? I am relaxed and I remember reading somewhere that because of that I may not need it to be all the way up. I tried to read though this thread for reviews, but there are just way to many pages!
Well... Wish me luck!
I'm looking forward to hearing from you ladies!
Oh and if some of the spacing is off sorry, I'm using a blackberry and everything is narrow!
Smooches!
 
Ladies I ordered my softliss Thursday and guess what my box was waiting for me this afternoon.I'm so excited.I'm coloring my hair right now and debating if I should just go for BKT or get some rest and BKT tomorrow.
 
I bought a Keratin Conditioning Treatment system at my local BSS. It's called Novex Chocolate...anyone every heard of it?? Any reviews??
 
onyxdreams said:
Ladies I ordered my softliss Thursday and guess what my box was waiting for me this afternoon.I'm so excited.I'm coloring my hair right now and debating if I should just go for BKT or get some rest and BKT tomorrow.
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The softliss process takes up to about 4 to 5 hours before completion. Make sure you're not tired. If you are able to do it in the morning, that would be better.

I'm just thinking about your energy level.... but if oyu're gunho...DO IT!!!!
 
FYI, I got the product today and it was misleading. One section said, same day treatment, yet the container says to leave product in hair for 2-4 days. I will follow the latter.

yodie said:
I didn't know QOD was a same day treatment. Hmmm.. 5oz for $25 is great!!
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Titan thank you for the advice of course I'm like Donewit -it. I had to to try it tonight.right nowI'm waiting for my 60 minutes and then I'll apply the mask. I can't say my hair is straight however,I'ma 4bzzzzz-something so I had tight kinks. my hair is straight poofy. I'm still happy because I wasn't going after straight so yippeee. i'm happy
 
Mystic said:
FYI, I got the product today and it was misleading. One section said, same day treatment, yet the container says to leave product in hair for 2-4 days. I will follow the latter.
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oh good luck Mystic,if you don't feel comfortable just return it and sitethe confusing directions.
 
onyxdreams said:
Titan thank you for the advice of course I'm like Donewit -it. I had to to try it tonight.right nowI'm waiting for my 60 minutes and then I'll apply the mask. I can't say my hair is straight however,I'ma 4bzzzzz-something so I had tight kinks. my hair is straight poofy. I'm still happy because I wasn't going after straight so yippeee. i'm happy
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Congrats, Onyxdreams. :) I don't see why you can't wait til the morning to do the mask and the cold rinse, if you want to get some rest.
 
Would love to see your result:lick:.

onyxdreams said:
Titan thank you for the advice of course I'm like Donewit -it. I had to to try it tonight.right nowI'm waiting for my 60 minutes and then I'll apply the mask. I can't say my hair is straight however,I'ma 4bzzzzz-something so I had tight kinks. my hair is straight poofy. I'm still happy because I wasn't going after straight so yippeee. i'm happy
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Where are the pictures? I too was not looking for straight hair. Maybe for it to fall a little and stronger hair. Good luck. I watching for the mailman everyday waiting for my package!!!!!

It is real lovely on relaxed hair.
 
Hey ladies i'm back with my reveiw of the softliss. A few facts first,I removed my braids last thursday,my hair is all natural except a few end strands in the front.I followed the directions from the package except for the naked blow dry,I air dried my hair until it was 90% dry.then I applied the chocolate Keratin.My eys did feel a slight tingle/burning sensation and my throat got dry.I used two fans, an open window and air conditioner on 75. I dont have a comb attachment on my dryer so I use the brush method.After blow drying I straighten my hair on 420 with three passes,(NO odor) my hair came out as if I was post relaxer.It was poofy but straight. I waited the 60minutes before using the mask. the mask is pure heaven.my hair felt silky and well moisturized(under the shower).Once out and toweled dry hair felt strong healthy and thick. I didnt want an more heat in my hair so I braided my hair.My hair almost feels the same as before the process.My relax strands are straight for sure and the back of my head which is a different texture is extremely soft with huge curls like a 4A.
 
!. I wanted to try this proces and Now I have, Ican see the benefits andI believe it is one that can be build upon. I think for natural 4b's each application will give you a different result.
2.I'm not sure the work and labor and heat are worth me trying this again,I rather henna,it is actually less work.These are just my thoughts for the moment.
3.I will however BKT my relaxed daugther,this processis great for transitions.
4.My blow drying skills are horrible and I think if I had the comb attachment or better skills my hair could have been straighter (real talk).
4. all in all I'm happy with my adventure, I'm glad I tried BKT and I won't rule it out for the future.

Thank you all for your help ,I have no clue how to post pictures
 
I did my first BKT. Last night, I used QOD gold and I'm not as thrilled with the results as I had hoped to be. The ends especially are still course - it only took me about 3 hours total. The fumes were not bad at all- in fact, I did most of it without the mask. I actually thought it smelled good although the clarifying shampoo stinks imho. I didn't do anymore than 6-7 passes with the flat iron.

A couple of things to mention: there is a reason not to apply this stuff near or on the scalp, my scalp didn't burn but it was a tingling sensation upon heat application. I only used half of the 4 ounces.

My hair looks & feels thirsty to me after the BKT. I really want to deep condition it and see how it looks after that. The shine and swang isn't what I'd hoped for. My hair is short (barely grazing the nape). I'm hoping to be happier with the result on wash day which is Saturday night. How soon can I do this again?? I would like to try to get better results ASAP. I do have virgin natural 4b/cnapp hair and I didn't do any pre-coloring or anything, so I guess my expectations may have been a little high.

This morning, I put my hair in a pony tail and put on my half wig. I know you're not supposed to bend the hair until wash day, but I'm so disgusted with the ends- I don't care. I'm not giving up on it, as I think it will only get better- just wanted to give my honest review at this point.


I'm at work, but will post pics later this evening.
 
you can try it again in about a month. As a note for everyone, i dont think u can judge the BKT results UNTIL you've had it done AT LEAST ONCE at a salon. After that, try it at home all you want, but i would recommend splurging for your first time... just mho
 
asuperwoman said:
I did my first BKT. Last night, I used QOD gold and I'm not as thrilled with the results as I had hoped to be. The ends especially are still course - it only took me about 3 hours total. The fumes were not bad at all- in fact, I did most of it without the mask. I actually thought it smelled good although the clarifying shampoo stinks imho. I didn't do anymore than 6-7 passes with the flat iron.

A couple of things to mention: there is a reason not to apply this stuff near or on the scalp, my scalp didn't burn but it was a tingling sensation upon heat application. I only used half of the 4 ounces.

My hair looks & feels thirsty to me after the BKT. I really want to deep condition it and see how it looks after that. The shine and swang isn't what I'd hoped for. My hair is short (barely grazing the nape). I'm hoping to be happier with the result on wash day which is Saturday night. How soon can I do this again?? I would like to try to get better results ASAP. I do have virgin natural 4b/cnapp hair and I didn't do any pre-coloring or anything, so I guess my expectations may have been a little high.

This morning, I put my hair in a pony tail and put on my half wig. I know you're not supposed to bend the hair until wash day, but I'm so disgusted with the ends- I don't care. I'm not giving up on it, as I think it will only get better- just wanted to give my honest review at this point.


I'm at work, but will post pics later this evening.
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I applied BKT to my sister's hair with no gloves. At first my hands were extremely dry and they had that prune look (like when you hand had been soaked in water). It took two weeks for them to get back to normal. I'm assuming it would do the same to my scalp. Although the damage was not permanent I would rather not do that to my scalp. It can't be a healthy condition for hair growth.
 
My guess is that natural non-porous hair would get little benefit from the BKT because it has nothing to adhere to. That's why they say it works best on hair that has been chemically processed.

I have naturally porous hair that is chemically processed so it loves the BKT. I'm guessing people with course natural non-porous hair don't get notable results. I could be wrong, its just a theory.
 
Keen said:
I applied BKT to my sister's hair with no gloves. At first my hands were extremely dry and they had that prune look (like when you hand had been soaked in water). It took two weeks for them to get back to normal. I'm assuming it would do the same to my scalp. Although the damage was not permanent I would rather not do that to my scalp. It can't be a healthy condition for hair growth.
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weeks? man, that certainly doesn't sound like a good condition for the scalp. I didn't get it on my scalp - but i think I applied it too close. the 1/4 way from scalp rule will be followed to a tee next time.
 
AtlantaJJ said:
My guess is that natural non-porous hair would get little benefit from the BKT because it has nothing to adhere to. That's why they say it works best on hair that has been chemically processed.

I have naturally porous hair that is chemically processed so it loves the BKT. I'm guessing people with course natural non-porous hair don't get notable results. I could be wrong, its just a theory.
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I did some more digging, and have been told naturals may have to wait until the 2nd or 3rd treatment to get the best results. I'm okay with that, I saw noticeable results but not the drastic results I expected. I'll certainly be doing it again. I guess for a natural, BKT is like fine wine- it gets better with time. :grin:
 
Quick question: Are you ladies still doing ACV rinses in between BKT treatments? I love BKT results on my hair, but ACV rinses keep my sensitive scalp in check.
 
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