Keratin Treatment Support Thread

[Titansgirl]

Titan are you happy with the waves? If you could go back would you still do it? I'm asking because I'm transitioning with BKT and I'm on the fence between global Keratin (which I used previously) and soft-liss.

Wanderland,

I'm very happy with the waves. I love, love, love my BKT!! I'll definitely do it again, but I won't do one until 4 months from now. I just needed the treatment to make my hair more manageable.

I'm try to post a picture of my waves since I just washed my hair.

 

[yodie]

Has anyone heard from SouthernTease? Has she decided to let the treatment wear off or reapply?

 

[Titansgirl]

So what's you're pre BKT hairtype were you already wavy or close to it? I mean did soft-liss take away your curls?

Softliss too my curls away initially. Here is a picture of my hair wet right after the treatment.

 

[Kurlee]

subscribing. I want to see the long term effects.......

 

[sheba1]

uh oh! I think I smell a test! Maybe Ill try it! after all it DOES wear off. If it does end up being straight then I could do some cute updos for a while. I wonder about washing it out after 30 min. OR not even waiting at all!!! hhhmmmmmm................ I feel like a pioneer!

Sounds awesome!!! I will anxiously await your results.

Hey guys, I went swimming with my bkt over the weekend and my hair was seriously acting like it wore off. My hair was suddenly like it used to be (more fragile) and drew up so much more that I thought I would have to reapply when I returned home. However, I did a protein treatment (aphogee two minute) followed by a DC and my hair is back to being what I know my BKT'd hair to be again; strong and pliable with a looser curl pattern.

I think that's pretty cool. So, even if you think your BKT is wearing, try a protein treatment and a DC and see if it snaps back.

 

[sheba1]

Softliss too my curls away initially. Here is a picture of my hair wet right after the treatment.

Hot dog, that is STRAAAAIGHT!! I love it! That is definitely something that I will keep in mind if I get the urge to have straighter hair, especially as it gets longer and I wish to wear it in braid outs, and such. Man, BKT is the bomb. I can't believe I never heard of it before now. I would have jumped all over this at any time in my hair life...

 

[Titansgirl]

Hot dog, that is STRAAAAIGHT!! I love it! That is definitely something that I will keep in mind if I get the urge to have straighter hair, especially as it gets longer and I wish to wear it in braid outs, and such. Man, BKT is the bomb. I can't believe I never heard of it before now. I would have jumped all over this at any time in my hair life...

I just washed my hair. I am going to get my sister to take a picture. I truly love this treatment. I can't believe we didn't hear about it sooner. I'm sure I would have transitioned using it!

 

[Titansgirl]

These are my pictures of my hair 2 months after the treatment. My curls are definitely coming back!!!

 

[sheba1]

Softliss too my curls away initially. Here is a picture of my hair wet right after the treatment.

These are my pictures of my hair 2 months after the treatment. My curls are definitely coming back!!!

GAWGEOUSSSS!!!

Man, your treatment is holding up beautifully. I wonder if mine would hold up as well, if I didn't wash so often. Or maybe I need to make the switch to Softliss! I could be super straight for a while, followed by gradually returning curls, like you and Crazydaze. Hmmmm

 

[Wanderland]

Titan, your hair definitely still has some texture (IMO a good thing).
It's been about 3 mo since my last treatment and I feel like its almost completely worn off (especially on the non-relaxed part). I put in the order for the softliss and hopefully should receive and apply it sometime later this week.

 

[sheba1]

So, I think I'm going to go with soft-liss.
My rationale: I'm transitioning but only 6 months in so the majority of my hair is straight. It should be easier to blend stretched curls and hopefully after about a year or so, when I stop or transition to global keratin the treatment will wear off.

What do you ladies think? Not about it wearing off, but my plan in general?

I think your plan sounds superb!

 

[AtlantaJJ]

AtlantaJJ, about how often do you have to re-do your treatment with your workouts and all. TIA!


ETA: So with Softliss, I wonder if any predominately 4a/4b completely virgin naturals have used it and what where the results. Im thinkin your hair will only be bone straight if your hair type is in the 3's and up, or if you already used chemicals.

I did my first treatment about 5 - 6 weeks ago. I used a couple of conditioners that I think helped it to wear off more than my sweating. I'm sticking with all natural products / keratin based products from now on.

I use the term wearing off loosely because I just have more frizz now. When I do a modified wrap and dry with the air setting under the dryer, my hair looks straight almost flat ironed. At first it air dried straight. I have a very light textlax, I just stretched my hair out, I didn't smooth at all.

I did a cellophane and it didn't seem to affect the BKT perhaps because it has protein in it and I used the neutral protein filler before my treatment. I agree with Sheba that protein can help the BKT snap back.

I'm going to so the Softliss next weekend for my new growth! LOL I happen to like my hair straight so I'm looking forward to the Softliss

 

[luckiestdestiny]

Softliss too my curls away initially. Here is a picture of my hair wet right after the treatment.

Titansgirl are you 100 percent natural, and also what is your hair type normally?

 

[Titansgirl]

Titansgirl are you 100 percent natural, and also what is your hair type normally?

I have been 100% natural since 2006. Here is a pic of my hair before the 1st treatment @ comb out. I really don't know my hair type. My hair has always been easy to comb eve when it's completely dry. I have really big hair...

 

[naturalmanenyc]

Wow!! Great results with Softliss. Looking at your photos from before Softliss, right after Softliss & 2 months later demonstrates how straight natural hair can get....and that it does wear off.

Softliss is not for me (I like curls) but thanks for posting. This will surely help lots of ladies decide which BKT to use.

I have been 100% natural since 2006. Here is a pic of my hair before the 1st treatment @ comb out. I really don't know my hair type. My hair has always been easy to comb eve when it's completely dry. I have really big hair...

 

[Br*nzeb*mbsh~ll]

Wow, Titan, thanks for those posts. This really helps me, but now i'm torn...I like the idea of curlies, but i like, no love- the thought of hair straight enough to do a rollerset....ah, decisions, decisions *bites lip with credit card in hand*

 

[Titansgirl]

Wow, Titan, thanks for those posts. This really helps me, but now i'm torn...I like the idea of curlies, but i like, no love- the thought of hair straight enough to do a rollerset....ah, decisions, decisions *bites lip with credit card in hand*

LOL! @ credit card in hand!!

Br*nzeb*mbsh~ll, I didn't realize that it was going to get my hair that straight!! I was totally shocked, but I'm truly enjoying the ease of combing my hair... I still have about 3 to 4 treatments left. I bought the 8 oz kit from Softliss.

 

[sheba1]

Wow, Titan, thanks for those posts. This really helps me, but now i'm torn...I like the idea of curlies, but i like, no love- the thought of hair straight enough to do a rollerset....ah, decisions, decisions *bites lip with credit card in hand*

You can have both! My hair is curly enough for curly wash n go's and gets straight with a roller set and silk wrap I've got threads on both. Have to get back to work, but I'll post them later, if you have trouble finding them.

 

[Br*nzeb*mbsh~ll]

LOL! Girl, I'm truly torn...Your hair text looks similiar to mine, so I'm dreaming about ease of combing.....

LOL! @ credit card in hand!!

Br*nzeb*mbsh~ll, I didn't realize that it was going to get my hair that straight!! I was totally shocked, but I'm truly enjoying the ease of combing my hair... I still have about 3 to 4 treatments left. I bought the 8 oz kit from Softliss.

Dang, Sheba, just when i was beginning to narrow my decision!
This is just too much!! Please post your thread with silkwrapping, please, please...

You can have both! My hair is curly enough for curly wash n go's and gets straight with a roller set and silk wrap I've got threads on both. Have to get back to work, but I'll post them later, if you have trouble finding them.

 

[sheba1]

Dang, Sheba, just when i was beginning to narrow my decision!
This is just too much!! Please post your thread with silkwrapping, please, please...

Oh, no worries, you are close!!! Closer than close. It'll hit you what you're looking for. Isn't it great that different bkt's give us so many options? I love it!

OK, roller set and silk wrap thread here . That was after my second bkt and I only did it that once. Once I discovered the wash-n-go and that I could wet bun without breakage, I was all over that! My wash-n-go thread is here. And, what the heck, here's my post bkt wet bun here.

 

[sunbubbles]

Where is everybody buying there softliss at?

 

[crazydaze911]

I made a thread on this, but i havent gotten many responses. does anyone know how this compares to the BKT? is it better?

http://www.biolustre.com/index.html

 

[princessnad]

I took someone's advice about not blowdrying the hair before applying the BKT and just letting it airdry.



I should have known better. I have been doing BKT for about a year with no problems.

This time, my hair goes poof before I'm done flat ironing. It didn't work for me. I will go back to following the directions.

 

[Dak]

I took someone's advice about not blowdrying the hair before applying the BKT and just letting it airdry.



I should have known better. I have been doing BKT for about a year with no problems.

This time, my hair goes poof before I'm done flat ironing. It didn't work for me. I will go back to following the directions.

That's good to know, Princessnad. I wonder if it's because blow drying opens the cuticle more?

 

[Lucia]

I made a thread on this, but i havent gotten many responses. does anyone know how this compares to the BKT? is it better?

http://www.biolustre.com/index.html

ingredients: polymer protein, sounds like an expensive protein treatment to me. the only thing thats diff from an aphogee or other cheaper protein treatment is the drying the hair before and after the treatment. most protein treatments just tell you to wash the hair then saturate hair with product , dry it, rinse out, condition with Keratin moisture balanced condish, then rinse out. IMO save your money.

http://www.aphogee.com/Two-Step-Treatment.aspx

 

[healthytext]

sunbubbles, you can buy Soft-Liss from their official website.

 

[Dak]

I made a thread on this, but i havent gotten many responses. does anyone know how this compares to the BKT? is it better?

http://www.biolustre.com/index.html

I looked at their ad, it looks like it's supposed to help damaged hair appear healthy again, they talk about the shine. I think that's going to be different than the BKT. My hair was already healthy & shiny. What the BKT did for my hair was to soften the curls a bit. Would love to hear from someone that has tried it.

 

[Lucia]

I looked at their ad, it looks like it's supposed to help damaged hair appear healthy again, they talk about the shine. I think that's going to be different than the BKT. My hair was already healthy & shiny. What the BKT did for my hair was to soften the curls a bit. Would love to hear from someone that has tried it.

Which brand of BKT did you use? Did all your curls come back or just some? How do you like it compared to just a good flat-ironing and can you still do wash and go's or wear it curly with the BKT in it? TIA

 

[Dak]

Did all your curls come back or just some? How do you like it compared to just a good flat-ironing and can you still do wash and go's or wear it curly with the BKT in it? TIA

My hair did not become straight, it still has the same curl pattern. Before I BKT'd I was flat-ironing it already using Sabino's Moisture Block and getting good results, but my hair would still eventually respond to humidity and start getting frizzy.

Now I do the same routine, but my results are better, my hair stays straight after I've flat-ironed it. I do a weight class 3x's a week that in the past would destroy my style; now I just pull my hair off my face with a headband & I'm good to go after class without having to add any more heat. (I'm working out more too, didn't someone post a thread about that?)

I haven't worn my hair with a wash n go for while, for about 10 years I wore my hair curly, right now I'm liking it straight. After I wash my hair though, there's no doubt I could wear it curly if I wanted, LOL.

 

[sunbubbles]

I've tried QOD gold and Soft Liss. I like both. I think that Soft Liss is a better product for someone like me. It only takes an hour to do its magic instead of 2 to 4 days. The QOD gold smells pleasant and does not burn your eyes. When I straightened my hair it felt producty and weird like the strand were sticking together. Once it was washed out 2 or 3 days later if felt really good. The soft liss smells good at first then begins to smell chemically. During the waiting period everyone kept commenting on the smell. This product can make you feel like you have to cough and slightly burn the eyes. So I've been doing it outside on the deck because even with the fans(both portable and bath room exhaust fan) and windows open it was still getting to me. The difference in out come is that the Soft-Liss hair felt less producty afterwards, was straighter and actually hung down. The Gold Max gave my hair too much volume and it would not hang down even though it was straight.


Right now my hair is an experimental battle ground for testing BKT products. I texlaxed the front portion of my head and the back is natural. When I tried the QOD the first time I used a regular clarifying shampoo from the drugstore and it went okay. This was done on a section in the front. When I tried the QOD again after using the Soft-Liss deep cleansing shampoo in another section of my head my hair went to silk and was super straight after washing. I dont know what it is but there is something in those clarifying/deep cleansing shampoos that these companies offer.

About a week ago I went ahead and decided to do my whole head with the Soft-Liss treatment. My textlaxed hair that looked like it was never touched with a chemical is now completely straight after two treatments of the Soft Liss. I mean it air dries pretty straight with hardly any frizz. I put some KCCC in the front section and it dried silky straight and smooth with no frizz what so ever. The back which is natural with remnants of color on the ends was only given the Soft Liss Treatment once. The areas where there is no color on the ends (I've been trying to trim off the color gradually) are super defined and about the size of 4a/3C curls. I naturally have 4a/b type hair that doesn't respond well to products like Miss Jessie's curly pudding. It usually looks white on my hair, but now it melts into it making soft defined curls. The parts with the colored ends looks a bit strange. Reminds me of when I was transitioning. The roots look loose and wavy yet kinky with 3A/2B curls on the ends. The ends still curl up but are silkier and look thinner. I think that the weight from the looser hair is pulling down the curls making them look wavy. My hair is super soft. It really revived my hair is the way it looks and feels. I'd also like to mention that the blow drying process was super easy after letting the product sit in my hair for 20 minutes. I was really able to blow dry my own natural kinky hair straight with a round brush.

Im going to do the back again and see if I can catch it up to the texlaxed hair. Im plan to put a straight weave in sometime soon. I've really missed hair that could stay straight for longer than a few hour or days. Right now I've been using suave shampoos because they dont contain sodium but I fear that the chloride might do something to it. I know for a fact that the Elucence Moisture Balance strips some of the treatment off. The section where I washed the hair with it started to look frizzy and the curl was coming back. This was after the first treatment though. I've been sticking with the suave coconut one and the daily clarifying with no problem so far.

If you're thinking about texlaxing or texturizing your hair you might want to try a BKT first. I think that 2 times or so should give you what you are looking for. This may not give good curly results if you have any chemical processes in your hair. For those texlaxed already, it will definitely give you straight hair. It really zaps out the curls on chemically processed hair. At first the texlaxed portioned looked like relaxed hair when air dried. You know what air dried relaxed hair looks like. After the second time, it now drys pretty straight. Also when straight is doesn't seem to recognize humidity. I splashed it with water and it didn't frizz or wave up. Once I shampooed my hair it showed signs of being hit by water.



Im going to use the what I have left on my Aunt's fully relaxed hair. I have little over a half of bottle left. After i do this I will show you guys the results of her hair and find the pictures of my own.

YES!! I really needed to find out the answer to my question on softliss on 4a/b virgin natural hair, and Im too broke right now to try it out! So I was ABOUT to read through this WHOLE thread again until I got a clue. Thank goodness I found my answer on page 6!
This is good to know, how the softliss reacted on the part of her hair that was 4a/b natural. I think this will be my choice when I get some money to buy my BKT. A Belated THANKS to you DANY06!