JUST KIYA GET IN HERE PULEEEASE!

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OK, I HAVENT BEEN AROUND THESE PARTS FOR A WHILE NOW. I GET BACK TO THE BOARD AND SEE SOME NEW DEVELOPMENTS HAVE COME ABOUT. I DONT THINK ILL BE TRYING ANYTHING NEW IS WHAT I SAID . BUT THEN IT WAS MADE SOOO EASY FOR ME I COULDNT RESIST. THE SALT----- WAS RIGHT THERE IN MY KITCHEN CABIENT..............


SO I TRIED IT and oooooooooohh my i loved it. im not sure but i think i saw something about adding lime or some other kinda citrus to the concoction. closest thing i had was reconstituted lemon juice. i used that with the table salt one day. next day jumped on that and the baking soda , and the next day i did the same thing. i am aware that there is a thing called over board and i wonder if that is what i am at this point. i mean the whole thing worked so well for me i find myself daydreaming about the next time. i want to jump in the shower every other minute now.


which brings me to the question: HOW MUCH IS TOO MUCH? i want to be able to do this atleast once a day. i dont know how anyone who has tried this could be talking about using it once a month. its instantly addictive. i was thinking the lemon juice might be too harsh to use every day. but couldnt i just skip that and use the baking soda or the salt. truthfully speaking, my conditioning experience has been pusshed over the top with this simple addition.


just kiya what is the run down on the frequency of application ( for this discovery that you have come across)? is there something to be ware of? im wondering if you even know ( since its only been a short time since youv'e run across this).


i need help for this problem like yesterday, cause im seriously hooked..

 

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BUMPING !!!

 

[AtlantaJJ]

Glad you had good luck with the treatment.. perhaps JKiya will be along soon! BUMPING

 

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BUMP BUMP!!

 

[Shimmie]

I just yelled accross the 'street' for her to get in here. She's coming

 

[vkb247]

Which combo of ingredients worked best for you? Or are they all similar?

 

[jamaraa]

Just curious, but what affect are you going for w/ all this lime, citrus, etc....what's it supposed to do?

 

[JustKiya]

*cracks up*

Girl, I UNDERSTAND your pain. The only thing that stopped me from doing daily treatments after I first came across this was that I was going to be in/near the ocean, and I thought that plus the salt, might be a bit much. Plus, my mama has hard water, and that was making my hair feel - odd - so I didn't want to go overboard and not be able to tell, ya know?

I honestly don't know how much is TOO much. So far, I've done it *thinks* three times. I wanted to do it last time I DC'd, but I was trying out Irish Moss for the first time, and one of my rules is to keep it 'pure' for the first time use. I'm DC'ing tomorrow, and you bet your sweet bippy, it's gonna have salt in it.

I don't KNOW!!! I honestly think that only your hair will tell you when it's too much - but that makes me nervous because I don't know how it will manifest - will you rinse, and it doesn't feel as good? Will you start seeing breakage? Will your other products not work as well? *sigh* I don't know, and for that simple reason, I suggest at least a LITTLE moderation - *lol*.

My personal 'safety net' is going to be using straight Citric Acid (which acts as a chelator) at LEAST once a month. I figure that will remove any potential salt overload on my hair, because in my mind, the traces of the mineral left on hair would cause the most problems. If I was relaxed, I would stop using it at LEAST a week ahead of my relaxer, and be sure to chelate beforehand, too.

Enjoy, and be safe, and if ANYTHING odd starts happening - stop the salt!!

 

[morehairplease]

*cracks up*

Girl, I UNDERSTAND your pain. The only thing that stopped me from doing daily treatments after I first came across this was that I was going to be in/near the ocean, and I thought that plus the salt, might be a bit much. Plus, my mama has hard water, and that was making my hair feel - odd - so I didn't want to go overboard and not be able to tell, ya know?

I honestly don't know how much is TOO much. So far, I've done it *thinks* three times. I wanted to do it last time I DC'd, but I was trying out Irish Moss for the first time, and one of my rules is to keep it 'pure' for the first time use. I'm DC'ing tomorrow, and you bet your sweet bippy, it's gonna have salt in it.

I don't KNOW!!! I honestly think that only your hair will tell you when it's too much - but that makes me nervous because I don't know how it will manifest - will you rinse, and it doesn't feel as good? Will you start seeing breakage? Will your other products not work as well? *sigh* I don't know, and for that simple reason, I suggest at least a LITTLE moderation - *lol*.

My personal 'safety net' is going to be using straight Citric Acid (which acts as a chelator) at LEAST once a month. I figure that will remove any potential salt overload on my hair, because in my mind, the traces of the mineral left on hair would cause the most problems. If I was relaxed, I would stop using it at LEAST a week ahead of my relaxer, and be sure to chelate beforehand, too.

Enjoy, and be safe, and if ANYTHING odd starts happening - stop the salt!!

hey sweetie,

do you mind me asking what you mix your citric acid with when you use it? I purchased some from camden grey a week or so ago.

tia,
tishee

 

[JustKiya]

hey sweetie,

do you mind me asking what you mix your citric acid with when you use it? I purchased some from camden grey a week or so ago.

tia,
tishee

*grin* Same thing I mix everything with - conditioner. (I'm a co-ho, I'll admit it ) I usually use about - meh, if I'm trying to seriously chelate, about a teaspoon and a sprinkle. If I'm jsut trying to 'freshen' up my hair, about half a teaspoon. Both in about 8-10 oz of conditioner, or so. Sometimes I'll add a little water to the crystals to dissolve them, and sometimes I jsut put it in on top of the conditioner (depends on what point in the mad mixing process I decide to use CA)......

If you use too much, your scalp WILL tell you (and the back of your neck) as it'll sting like saltwater in a fresh cut. Just rinse (fast! the longer you wait, the more it itches/burns, trust me), and dilute your mix some with more conditioner.

 

[TCT]

Which combo of ingredients worked best for you? Or are they all similar?

ummm i think hands down the baking soda and the reconstituted lemon juice worked better than the table salt and reconstituted lemon. i dont plan on continuing the lemon juice in every wash. but im gonna try with the salt again on its own. well- i meant to say the salt and conditioner together ofcoarse.

 

[TCT]

I just yelled accross the 'street' for her to get in here. She's coming

thank you shimmie, i thought she was never comming

 

[JustKiya]

ummm i think hands down the baking soda and the reconstituted lemon juice worked better than the table salt and reconstituted lemon. i dont plan on continuing the lemon juice in every wash. but im gonna try with the salt again on its own. well- i meant to say the salt and conditioner together ofcoarse.

Interesting! Depending on the combination (someone hipped me to the science of this) you'll actually end up with different TYPES of Salt.

Table Salt is Sodium Chloride.
The Salt from Baking Soda + Citric Acid (whether pure, or from lemon/lime juice) is Sodium Cirtrate.
The Salt from Baking Soda + Vinegar would most likely be (guessing!) Sodium Acetate, I think, as the main acid in vinegar is acetic acid, isn't it? I'll have to googlefuu that, and see.

ETA: Yup, it's Acetic Acid

ETAA: I Wiki!!!! Here's a link about Sodium Acetate which is the metal salt of acetic acid.....and oooh, you could buy that straight, too. :scratchch

Sooooo. It might be that different people's hair prefer different salts??

Also, the salt + acid combo hasn't seemed to work well for many people, overall - I think that maybe they don't 'react' with each other, and so don't work as well together as the baking soda + acid does....

 

[TCT]

*cracks up*

Girl, I UNDERSTAND your pain. The only thing that stopped me from doing daily treatments after I first came across this was that I was going to be in/near the ocean, and I thought that plus the salt, might be a bit much. Plus, my mama has hard water, and that was making my hair feel - odd - so I didn't want to go overboard and not be able to tell, ya know?

I honestly don't know how much is TOO much. So far, I've done it *thinks* three times. I wanted to do it last time I DC'd, but I was trying out Irish Moss for the first time, and one of my rules is to keep it 'pure' for the first time use. I'm DC'ing tomorrow, and you bet your sweet bippy, it's gonna have salt in it.

I don't KNOW!!! I honestly think that only your hair will tell you when it's too much - but that makes me nervous because I don't know how it will manifest - will you rinse, and it doesn't feel as good? Will you start seeing breakage? Will your other products not work as well? *sigh* I don't know, and for that simple reason, I suggest at least a LITTLE moderation - *lol*.

My personal 'safety net' is going to be using straight Citric Acid (which acts as a chelator) at LEAST once a month. I figure that will remove any potential salt overload on my hair, because in my mind, the traces of the mineral left on hair would cause the most problems. If I was relaxed, I would stop using it at LEAST a week ahead of my relaxer, and be sure to chelate beforehand, too.

Enjoy, and be safe, and if ANYTHING odd starts happening - stop the salt!!

thankyou lady,
............. i guess there is no hard fast rule for this yet. i'll just have to watch carefully and see. if you notice anything strange do let me know, ok? i'll do the same, because i think me and this mixure are gonna be seeing a whole lot of each other in the foreseeable future.

 

[TCT]

Interesting! Depending on the combination (someone hipped me to the science of this) you'll actually end up with different TYPES of Salt.

Table Salt is Sodium Chloride.
The Salt from Baking Soda + Citric Acid (whether pure, or from lemon/lime juice) is Sodium Cirtrate.
The Salt from Baking Soda + Vinegar would most likely be (guessing!) Sodium Acetate, I think, as the main acid in vinegar is acetic acid, isn't it? I'll have to googlefuu that, and see.

ETA: Yup, it's Acetic Acid

ETAA: I Wiki!!!! Here's a link about Sodium Acetate which is the metal salt of acetic acid.....

Sooooo. It might be that different people's hair prefer different salts??

Also, the salt + acid combo hasn't seemed to work well for many people, overall - I think that maybe they don't 'react' with each other, and so don't work as well together as the baking soda + acid does....

thats quite interesting , i guess i have something else to experiment with now. checking to see if there is any acv in the kitchen cabinets. lol.

 

[girlcherokee]

has any one tried the epson salts in the conditioner yet? i would like to try this but i just self relaxed so i am sitting still abit - because i dont want to mix too much stuff in my hair at once and not know what is affecting what.

 

[TCT]

I READ IN A NOTHER POST ABOUT SOMEONE USING EPSOM SALT. DONT REMEMBER WHO THOUGH, I HAVENT TRIED IT MYSELF. MAYBE KIYA CAN CHIME IN IF SHE KNOWS ABOUT IT.

 

[JustKiya]

I've read about it, but I've never used it, personally. I think Shimmie has, if you want to PM her....

 

[Shimmie]

Epsom Salt has a very soft effect on hair. Now the Epsom Salt and Sea Salt is not the same, though. Epsom Salt is Magnesium Sulfate; it has 12% Sulfur in it. Salt is an entirely different composition.

For years I've used Epssom Salt in my bath water because it soothes my leg muscles. Before I bathe, I dunk my head under the water in the tub to rinse out my hair conditioner and it feels so soft and silky down my back.

We have another member adw425 who has done the same and has the wnoderful soft results.

However, the "KF Solution -"Kiya Fizzie" makes it even softer.

 

[RedVelvet310]

*grin* Same thing I mix everything with - conditioner. (I'm a co-ho, I'll admit it ) I usually use about - meh, if I'm trying to seriously chelate, about a teaspoon and a sprinkle. If I'm jsut trying to 'freshen' up my hair, about half a teaspoon. Both in about 8-10 oz of conditioner, or so. Sometimes I'll add a little water to the crystals to dissolve them, and sometimes I jsut put it in on top of the conditioner (depends on what point in the mad mixing process I decide to use CA)......

If you use too much, your scalp WILL tell you (and the back of your neck) as it'll sting like saltwater in a fresh cut. Just rinse (fast! the longer you wait, the more it itches/burns, trust me), and dilute your mix some with more conditioner.

LMAO at co-ho... I love that

Epsom salt... hmm I might give that a try.. I was planning on buying some at Wal-Mart... good god I love you guys

 

[AngieB]

I did this again today and I love it!! I had forgotten about salt for the last couple weeks and thought about it today. My hair feels great!!