JaneBond007
New Member
Didn't want to derail the other thread on the secular side, but this is a good article demonstrating just how "religion" has greatly influenced society. We don't often take into account the historical values that have made their way into shaping our societies. This is the christian's values as by default, the christian takes and promotes Jewish values. Jews and christians may not see eye-to-eye, but those who can past the hurt and pain of oppression and accusation against each other can see the very jewel of life given by the Creator. It is universal.
http://www.simpletoremember.com/articles/a/jewishimpactontheworld/
World Perfect The Jewish Impact On Civilization: Where did the values and principles of the modern world come from?
by Rabbi Ken Spiro
While developing an idea for a lecture program, I conducted a series of surveys over a period of two years, asking people to list the fundamental values and principles which they felt we needed to uphold in order to make our world as perfect as is humanly possible. In total, some 1,500 individuals were questioned. Overwhelmingly, my respondents—predominantly Westerners, from the United States, Canada, South America, England, France, Germany, Austria, Switzerland, the Netherlands, Spain, Portugal, Italy, etc—came up with remarkably similar answers, which could be grouped into these six categories:
The question is: Why?
Are these six basic ideas intrinsic to human nature? Have people always felt this way? And if not, where did we get these values? What is the source of this utopian world vision?
My search for answers to these questions has produced this book. Where did the values and principles of the modern world come from? The answer I found will surprise, perhaps even shock, the reader.
As the respondents to my survey were predominantly residents of democratic countries, they naturally assumed that the values they hold dear have originated—as did democracy—with the Greeks and, to a lesser extent, with disseminators of Hellenistic, i.e. Greek ideas, the Romans.
Indeed, this issue is subject to much debate in academic circles these days. Traditionalists continue to insist that the values of ancient Greece and Rome underlie all our learning, philosophy, art, and ethics, while their opponents accuse them that their idealization of Greco-Roman standards of virtue, wisdom, and beauty is sentimental if not downright unreal.
Reporting on this bitter controversy, the New York Times (March 7, 1998) asked in a headline:
“THE ANCIENTS WERE:
A) BELLICOSE ELITISTS OR
B) THE SOURCE OF WESTERN VALUES?”
It would be pointless to negate that Greece and Rome, besides being the most advanced civilizations of antiquity, have also been the most influential of civilizations on Western Europe and by extension, the Americas. Without a doubt, much of our ideas about art, beauty, philosophy, government, and modern empirical science do come from classical Greek thought. Western law, government, administration, and engineering were also powerfully shaped by Rome. Indeed, we do overwhelmingly get the lion’s share of our culture from these civilizations.
But can the same be said about our values, ethics, and principles?
Let me hasten to say that this is not a trick question; I am not hinting here at some far-fetched notion that we really got our values from the Far East. Although, with the recent interest in Eastern philosophies a few voices have been raised advocating this view, the undisputed historical fact is that only within the last few hundred years did the West have any significant interaction with the East.
So the question remains: How did we come to order our moral values in this particular way?
To answer this question we shall begin our examination by taking a look just how those civilizations—which, without a doubt, shaped our political and social systems—related to the values we hold dear today.
http://www.simpletoremember.com/articles/a/jewishimpactontheworld/
World Perfect The Jewish Impact On Civilization: Where did the values and principles of the modern world come from?
by Rabbi Ken Spiro
While developing an idea for a lecture program, I conducted a series of surveys over a period of two years, asking people to list the fundamental values and principles which they felt we needed to uphold in order to make our world as perfect as is humanly possible. In total, some 1,500 individuals were questioned. Overwhelmingly, my respondents—predominantly Westerners, from the United States, Canada, South America, England, France, Germany, Austria, Switzerland, the Netherlands, Spain, Portugal, Italy, etc—came up with remarkably similar answers, which could be grouped into these six categories:
- Respect for Human Life. In a perfect world, all people would be guaranteed certain basic human rights, paramount among which must be the right to life. They should be able to live that life without constant fear of its loss and with certain basic dignity.
- Peace and Harmony. On all levels—whether communal or global—people and nations should co-exist in peace and harmony with respect for each other.
- Justice and Equality. All people, regardless of race, sex, or social status should be treated equally and fairly in the eyes of the law.
- Education. Everyone should receive a basic education that would guarantee functional literacy within society.
- Family A strong, stable family structure needs to exist to serve as the moral foundation for society and as the most important institution for socializing/educating children.
- Social Responsibility. On an individual, community, national and global level, people must take responsibility for the world. This should include an organized social network to address basic concerns such as disease, poverty, famine, crime, drug-related problems, as well as environmental and animal protection issues.
The question is: Why?
Are these six basic ideas intrinsic to human nature? Have people always felt this way? And if not, where did we get these values? What is the source of this utopian world vision?
My search for answers to these questions has produced this book. Where did the values and principles of the modern world come from? The answer I found will surprise, perhaps even shock, the reader.
As the respondents to my survey were predominantly residents of democratic countries, they naturally assumed that the values they hold dear have originated—as did democracy—with the Greeks and, to a lesser extent, with disseminators of Hellenistic, i.e. Greek ideas, the Romans.
Indeed, this issue is subject to much debate in academic circles these days. Traditionalists continue to insist that the values of ancient Greece and Rome underlie all our learning, philosophy, art, and ethics, while their opponents accuse them that their idealization of Greco-Roman standards of virtue, wisdom, and beauty is sentimental if not downright unreal.
Reporting on this bitter controversy, the New York Times (March 7, 1998) asked in a headline:
“THE ANCIENTS WERE:
A) BELLICOSE ELITISTS OR
B) THE SOURCE OF WESTERN VALUES?”
It would be pointless to negate that Greece and Rome, besides being the most advanced civilizations of antiquity, have also been the most influential of civilizations on Western Europe and by extension, the Americas. Without a doubt, much of our ideas about art, beauty, philosophy, government, and modern empirical science do come from classical Greek thought. Western law, government, administration, and engineering were also powerfully shaped by Rome. Indeed, we do overwhelmingly get the lion’s share of our culture from these civilizations.
But can the same be said about our values, ethics, and principles?
Let me hasten to say that this is not a trick question; I am not hinting here at some far-fetched notion that we really got our values from the Far East. Although, with the recent interest in Eastern philosophies a few voices have been raised advocating this view, the undisputed historical fact is that only within the last few hundred years did the West have any significant interaction with the East.
So the question remains: How did we come to order our moral values in this particular way?
To answer this question we shall begin our examination by taking a look just how those civilizations—which, without a doubt, shaped our political and social systems—related to the values we hold dear today.
Last edited: