John the Baptist-Beloved Disciple?
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chinadoll said:I don't understand why was John the Baptist called the disciple that jesus loved when it states in the bible that God doesn't show favoritism(sp)? Can someone please explain this to me.
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Veronica
Hi Chinadoll
. When it comes to Salvation, God is no respecter of persons. No one is excluded from receiving the gift of Jesus. Whosoever will, let him come and drink freely from the waters of life. Salvation...whosoever will...let him come; for it is free to all. Regarding John the Baptist...
Here's a little background.
John the Baptist and John the Disciple are not the same persons.
John the Baptist is Jesus' cousin. Both of their mothers (Elizabeth and Martha) were cousins. Right after Mary's visitation from the Holy Spirit who placed the conception of Jesus in her womb, Mary went to share the news with Elizabieth who was then pregnant with John the Baptist who leaped in Elizabeth's womb when Mary shared the news of her pregnancy with the son of God.
John the Baptist is the one who baptised Jesus; who told of his coming and was later beheaded by King Herod.
Now moving ahead, the other John was a Disciple of Jesus along with the other 11 (Matthew, Peter, James, Andrew, Thaddeus, Thomas, Barthalomew, Andrew, another James and Simon, Judas. (I'm naming them by memory; I made up a song to help my students remember them...and to help me remember too.
During the gathering (The Last Supper) before Jesus was betrayed by Judas and taken away to be tried and cruified, Jesus was speaking of his impending death. The Bible speaks of John whom Jesus loved...
Now although not much has been spoken of their relationship, I personally believe that the two of them had a special bond. Of course we are not to play and have favorites. However, we are all still bonded more closely to several people in our lives more than we are to others. It is a fact of life which cannot be avoided or denied.
However, if you look at the sequence here. Jesus is sharing of his coming demise. John (the disciple) was so overtaken with this that his head was lying upon Jesus' shoulder.
I truly believe that what the Word of God is speaking is, "Whom Jesus had compassion for; meaning Jesus understood the hurt, fear, and sorrow that John was feeling. So the Bible which might have said, whom Jesus comforted (loved) for Jesus understood John's fear and sorrow, but instead it says, 'whom Jesus loved', which is true. Jesus did love John, but also the others as well, including Judas.
I don't believe that this was a love of isolation or exclusion of the others. I believe instead that the word love was used in place of the words comforting compassion. For as John's head was bowed in sorrow upon Jesus...Jesus could not help but respond in loving compassion to comfort him.
I hope this helps and I'm sure there are other views from others here who will help you as well.
((( hugs )))
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empressaja
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Shimmie said:Hi Chinadoll
Regarding John the Baptist...
Here's a little background.
John the Baptist and John the Disciple are not the same persons.
John the Baptist is Jesus' cousin. Both of their mothers (Mary and Martha) were cousins. Right after Mary's visitation from the Holy Spirit who placed the conception of Jesus in her womb, Mary went to share the news with Martha who was then pregnant with John the Baptist who leaped in Martha's womb when Mary shared the news of her pregnancy with the son of God.
John the Baptist is the one who baptised Jesus; who told of his coming and was later beheaded by King Herod.
Now moving ahead, the other John was a Disciple of Jesus along with the other 11 (Matthew, Peter, James, Andrew, Thaddeus, Thomas, Barthalomew, Andrew, another James and Simon, Judas. (I'm naming them by memory; I made up a song to help my students remember them...and to help me remember too.
During the gathering (The Last Supper) before Jesus was betrayed by Judas and taken away to be tried and cruified, Jesus was speaking of his impending death. The Bible speaks of John whom Jesus loved...
Now although not much has been spoken of their relationship, I personally believe that the two of them had a special bond. Of course we are not to play and have favorites. However, we are all still bonded more closely to several people in our lives more than we are to others. It is a fact of life which cannot be avoided or denied.
However, if you look at the sequence here. Jesus is sharing of his coming demise. John (the disciple) was so overtaken with this that his head was lying upon Jesus' shoulder.
I truly believe that what the Word of God is speaking is, "Whom Jesus had compassion for; meaning Jesus understood the hurt, fear, and sorrow that John was feeling. So the Bible which might have said, whom Jesus comforted (loved) for Jesus understood John's fear and sorrow, but instead it says, 'whom Jesus loved', which is true. Jesus did love John, but also the others as well, including Judas.
I don't believe that this was a love of isolation or exclusion of the others. I believe instead that the word love was used in place of the words comforting compassion. For as John's head was bowed in sorrow upon Jesus...Jesus could not help but respond in loving compassion to comfort him.
I hope this helps and I'm sure there are other views from others here who will help you as well.
((( hugs )))
John the Baptiste's mother was Elizabeth his Fathere was Zechariah
empressaja
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Shimmie said:I 'knew' that...
I'm going back to fix my original post.
Too many women named Mary. lol
Also Mary of Bethany sister of Martha wasn't Jesus's mother.
Oh, I knew I wasn't speaking of that Mary. As a matter of fact, that Mary and Martha were sisters. She was the one who chose to listen as Jesus taught; while her sister Martha complained about all of the 'house work' that needed tending. The sisters of Lazarus...whom Jesus called from the dead.birdie said:
There's only ONE Virgin Mary in the bloodline. It wasn't Martha's sister.
Thanks Birdie for alerting me to my earlier typo...
