Immune to the "Inappropriate"?

[CoilyFields]

Hey ladies,
My last thread about adoption got me thinking about things that I may be so used to in society that I dont even think about the fact that it may be wrong or "inappropriate" spiritually. For instance,

Is it wrong/inappropriate to have a male doctor? Especially an ob/gyn?

I personally prefer women but have had men doctors all up in my "business". I hadnt previously thought twice about it But it really is a man that is not my husband seeing and touching my naked body. I assume that there is no lust going on (but you never know another persons heart). (And Im not talking about medical emergencies where you may have no control over who treats you, Im talking about a conscious pre-meditated choice of who your doctor with be)

Whats your opinion ladies? Is the above wrong/sin or inappropriate*?

And are there other situations that are suspect, though we may view them as normal because of our culture/environment/society?

*I use the word inappropriate because while it may not be a sin, it may not be your best interest spiritually or for Holy living. 1 Corinthians 10:23 All things are lawful for me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but all things edify not.

 

[Poohbear]

Interesting topic.

I am also someone who prefers a woman doctor. I've always had a woman OB/GYN because I would request it. I've had male doctors as primary care physicians, but they didn't do any touching or looking at my naked body.

But to answer your question, no, I don't think it's a sin for a woman to have a male doctor.

Other situations that are suspect:
Speeding on the road in your vehicle
Watching television
Listening to non-Christian/non-Gospel music
Working a job several days and hours during the week
Joking/Profanity/Gossip

That's all I can think of right now.

 

[CoilyFields]

Interesting topic.

I am also someone who prefers a woman doctor. I've always had a woman OB/GYN because I would request it. I've had male doctors as primary care physicians, but they didn't do any touching or looking at my naked body.

But to answer your question, no, I don't think it's a sin for a woman to have a male doctor.

Other situations that are suspect:
Speeding on the road in your vehicle
Watching television
Listening to non-Christian/non-Gospel music
Working a job several days and hours during the week
Joking/Profanity/Gossip

That's all I can think of right now.

Can you explain what about the bolded are suspect?

 

[Prudent1]

Hi Coily!
I think when you get down to the 'nitty gritty' there are many things we don't give close enough scrutiny to. We are all supposed to constantly examine all thoughts, our actions, our hearts(souls) to keep that stuff in check according to various scriptures found in the word. It sometimes seems very daunting but we know that with God all things are possible. I don't know about the question you posted above. I had thought about it before a few years back but not much. Some ppl will say thinking these thoughts goes overboard. Sure someone could take things out of balance but we know that's not God's will either. My current OB/GYN is a male. Good food for thought. I guess my first reaction has been to pray for competency. I guess I might think differently too if there was a Mr. Prudent1 in the picture who had objections. Good food for thought. Iron sharpens iron:scratchch.

 

[Guitarhero]

One should choose the physician they are most comfortable with. It only becomes sin when someone lusts or inappropriately handles another and that could happen with same-sex medical professionals. I wouldn't worry about the other "suspect" things either, take life one day at a time or you'll end up panicking, getting frustrated and stressed and eventually give it up. Balance and time are the keys.

 

[Poohbear]

Can you explain what about the bolded are suspect?

Sure.

Watching television
I always hear people say that you should spend your time reading the Bible, praying, going to church, or sharing the Good News instead of wasting your time watching television.

Working your job several days and hours a week
Most people spend most of their lives working a job/career. Just think about it. The common schedule for Americans is Monday through Friday 8am to 5pm. That's 8 hours out of a 24 hour day taken out of your life's schedule. Then we also have get about 8 hours of sleep. So we have about 8 hours (sometimes less) for leisure, God, or whatever else. Some people will spend their extra time either shopping, eating, traveling, hanging with friends/family, amusing themselves to death with other things, but not necessarily using that extra time for God.

Here's a video I saw a few months ago that really made me think about this. Check it out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXxfduCpC38

Hope that explains it better.

 

[Poohbear]

One should choose the physician they are most comfortable with. It only becomes sin when someone lusts or inappropriately handles another and that could happen with same-sex medical professionals. I wouldn't worry about the other "suspect" things either, take life one day at a time or you'll end up panicking, getting frustrated and stressed and eventually give it up. Balance and time are the keys.

I totally agree with this. As long as lust and sexual immorality or perversion isn't going on, the doctor-patient relationship should be sinfree.

 

[Poohbear]

A couple more issues that society has become immune to:

1. Unmarried couples living together
2. Children being born out of wedlock

These two almost seem the norm, especially the second one. I remember when I didn't have a boyfriend, and when I would meet guys, they would ask "How many kids do you have?" without even asking whether or not I have kids to begin with. But not only guys, even girls that I may reconnect with that I haven't seen in a long time since high school have asked the same thing. And I say "no, I don't have any kids."

Same with the first one. If I mention having a boyfriend, some people will ask if I live with him. And I say "no". And there have been times when my boyfriend and I have been out and about in public places, and people assumed we live together.

 

[CoilyFields]

One should choose the physician they are most comfortable with. It only becomes sin when someone lusts or inappropriately handles another and that could happen with same-sex medical professionals. I wouldn't worry about the other "suspect" things either, take life one day at a time or you'll end up panicking, getting frustrated and stressed and eventually give it up. Balance and time are the keys.

I get what you mean about your comfort level being important in your choice of doctor. I guess Im questioning the normalcy of that choice including those of the opposite sex.

Generally, most christians will agree that (at least biblically) a woman should not undress and allow a man to touch her that is not her husband. But its ok to do this if the man is a doctor?...but arent we offering them the same temptation to lust that we would with any other man we exposed ourselves to in that manner? Like, doctors are still men...do we honestly think that they are NEVER aroused by their patients (whether they act on it or not)? Not that they are perverts who became doctors to try to cop a feel (lol) but also just the act of exposing yourself...I guess Im thinking about like Noah in the Bible when his son was punished that did not cover up his fathers nakedness...it was considered private and something to be shared with his wife only.

And I totally agree that we should not become slaves to the "what if this is a sin" syndrome, but this is kinda just food for thought...

 

[CoilyFields]

A couple more issues that society has become immune to:

1. Unmarried couples living together
2. Children being born out of wedlock

These two almost seem the norm, especially the second one. I remember when I didn't have a boyfriend, and when I would meet guys, they would ask "How many kids do you have?" without even asking whether or not I have kids to begin with. But not only guys, even girls that I may reconnect with that I haven't seen in a long time since high school have asked the same thing. And I'm say "no, I don't have any kids."

Same with the first one. If I mention having a boyfriend, some people will ask if I live with him. And I'm say "no". And there have been times when my boyfriend and I have been out and about in public places, and people assumed we live together.

I feel you on this! When I was younger I couldnt walk around on mothers day without someone offering me congratulations...despite the fact that I didnt have a child with me. They just assumed, young, black...MUST have kids.

 

[Guitarhero]

I get what you mean about your comfort level being important in your choice of doctor. I guess Im questioning the normalcy of that choice including those of the opposite sex.

Generally, most christians will agree that (at least biblically) a woman should not undress and allow a man to touch her that is not her husband. But its ok to do this if the man is a doctor?...but arent we offering them the same temptation to lust that we would with any other man we exposed ourselves to in that manner? Like, doctors are still men...do we honestly think that they are NEVER aroused by their patients (whether they act on it or not)? Not that they are perverts who became doctors to try to cop a feel (lol) but also just the act of exposing yourself...I guess Im thinking about like Noah in the Bible when his son was punished that did not cover up his fathers nakedness...it was considered private and something to be shared with his wife only.

And I totally agree that we should not become slaves to the "what if this is a sin" syndrome, but this is kinda just food for thought...

That's why I said you need to go with YOUR comfort level. Did you mean for yourself for all women in general? I'm not ever going to think it's a sin for a woman to have a male gyno but that's just me. To me, it's not a sin. It's up to the individual. But if it makes you uncomfortable and you fear what he might be thinking, then you should make sure you have a female doctor.

 

[hair_rehab]

I don't think its a sin, but if you end up with a male ob/gyn, just be sure that you both remain professional at all times (No inappropriate or personal conversations, compliments, jokes etc.) A doc who is up to no good will soon reveal his motives if he feels he can get away with it.

Also, Christians have something that unbelievers don't, and that is the guidance of the Holy Spirit. I think it's important to pray before you face situations, even if they seem normal or mundane. The Lord always shows us a way out of situations, but it's up to us to remain obedient and pay attention.

 

[Poohbear]

Would this be an issue of being immune to the inappropriate that most of us are guilty of... being on LHCF while at work? :Blush2:

 

[CoilyFields]

^^^^LOL! Depends on your job I guess. My supervisor is of the persuasion that as long as your work is done and you're discreet...

 

[momi]

Good topic - I personally don't think having a male OBGYN is sin unless you are fantasizing while he is "down there". If it is sin to you then it is sin... I just prefer a woman if at all possible.

I still don't think enough attention is given to "worldliness" in general. I am surprised at some of the things seasoned Christians don't have a problem with.

1. Profanity
2. Inappropriate dress

For me, I have to constantly examine myself because if I am not careful I can allow "technology" to infringe on my prayer time. read: facebook.

 

[momi]

Would this be an issue of being immune to the inappropriate that most of us are guilty of... being on LHCF while at work? :Blush2:

Why'd you have to bring that up? When I worked outside of the home I always had my "work screens" up and my "LHCF" screen up concurrently.

 

[Poohbear]

Why'd you have to bring that up? When I worked outside of the home I always had my "work screens" up and my "LHCF" screen up concurrently.

I know! If my boss or a co-worker comes to my desk, I immediately press the "Alt + Tab" keys to switch screens.

 

[loolalooh]

And are there other situations that are suspect, though we may view them as normal because of our culture/environment/society?

-Drinking for pleasure (any level of drunkenness - whether tipsy or dirt drunk)
-Clubbing (lust, sinful music, etc.)

 

[Jenibo]

And are there other situations that are suspect, though we may view them as normal because of our culture/environment/society?

-Drinking for pleasure (any level of drunkenness - whether tipsy or dirt drunk)
-Clubbing (lust, sinful music, etc.)

I know some Christians who drink casually or socially but feel it's ok as long as they're not drunk. I always hear this line from my fellow young Christians: "I can still show the world that I'm a Christian at a party. They feel as long as they're not grinding or drinking that they are fine.

 

[krikit96]

I know some Christians who drink casually or socially but feel it's ok as long as they're not drunk. I always hear this line from my fellow young Christians: "I can still show the world that I'm a Christian at a party. They feel as long as they're not grinding or drinking that they are fine.

Shoooo, Jesus turned the water into WINE honey-chile! He said to keep the party goin, just don't get drunk...
Well, he said, "Drink and be merry." So who am I to disobey???

Uh-oh... here come the swingin fists!

 

[loolalooh]

I know some Christians who drink casually or socially but feel it's ok as long as they're not drunk. I always hear this line from my fellow young Christians: "I can still show the world that I'm a Christian at a party. They feel as long as they're not grinding or drinking that they are fine.

Yea, I can't really say this example is unacceptable since it's casually/socially w/ no connection to drunkenness. (The whole I can be at a party and not grind thing I dunno ... but maybe it's just my personal preference to avoid scenes like that for my own spirit.)

However, when a Christian drinks to get tipsy or drunk, that's another story. It brings up the question of why ... why is this person pursuing the buzz? the drunkenness? to "feel nice"? Is this fulfilling a fleshly desire?

 

[loolalooh]

Shoooo, Jesus turned the water into WINE honey-chile! He said to keep the party goin, just don't get drunk...
Well, he said, "Drink and be merry." So who am I to disobey???

Uh-oh... here come the swingin fists!

Yea, there are Scriptures that point to drinking wine as acceptable and there are also some that frown upon drunkenness. So yea, in essence I agree - if a Christian wants to drink, hey ... but if it gets to the point of drunkenness, then that's disobedience right there.

There's also this that we've got to watch out for:

1 Corinthians 8:9-13 (New International Version)
9Be careful, however, that the exercise of your freedom does not become a stumbling block to the weak. 10For if anyone with a weak conscience sees you who have this knowledge eating in an idol's temple, won't he be emboldened to eat what has been sacrificed to idols? 11So this weak brother, for whom Christ died, is destroyed by your knowledge. 12When you sin against your brothers in this way and wound their weak conscience, you sin against Christ. 13Therefore, if what I eat causes my brother to fall into sin, I will never eat meat again, so that I will not cause him to fall.

Though mature Christian X can totally hold his own drinking without drunkenness, what about his baby Christian brother Y? I guess it comes down to a matter of discretion.

 

[Guitarhero]

Though mature Christian X can totally hold his own drinking without drunkenness, what about his baby Christian brother Y? I guess it comes down to a matter of discretion.

That's a good point because if you worried about every single thing that a christian on baby milk was confused and frustrated about (seeing a devil behind every single stone), you would stop doing everything in your life that you like. I'm glad to see this balanced view represented.

 

[ToyToy]

A couple more issues that society has become immune to:

1. Unmarried couples living together
2. Children being born out of wedlock

These two almost seem the norm, especially the second one. I remember when I didn't have a boyfriend, and when I would meet guys, they would ask "How many kids do you have?" without even asking whether or not I have kids to begin with. But not only guys, even girls that I may reconnect with that I haven't seen in a long time since high school have asked the same thing. And I say "no, I don't have any kids."

Same with the first one. If I mention having a boyfriend, some people will ask if I live with him. And I say "no". And there have been times when my boyfriend and I have been out and about in public places, and people assumed we live together.

I so agree with these two points. It seems to be so normal now (in fact celebrated) to have children out of wedlock.

But to answer the original question - I don't think it is inappropriate to have a male gynaecologist or physician. I've never thought about it. I never go in there thinking that they feel lustful towards me. I like to think that they are professional and would like to keep their license to practice.

 

[aribell]

I think that working 8 hours a day, 5 days a week, most likely in a climate-controlled environment is luxurious compared to the labor of biblical times. God expects us to work, and diligently. I don't think that's something we have to question.

 

[EbonyHairedPrincess]

Would this be an issue of being immune to the inappropriate that most of us are guilty of... being on LHCF while at work? :Blush2:

Look Pooh, Ima need you to not bring LHCF into this .