Hip Length Challenge 2010
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LoveLongLocks
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I will do a flat iron.
I have been offered to do a BKT as a hair model, and that's scheduled for the 19th.
I feel comfortable about it, but will be going straight into a no manipulation style right after. So, my hair will be up for another month after.
Thank all of you for your support and inspiration.
Thanks "schipperchow1" for the thread and support!
I have been offered to do a BKT as a hair model, and that's scheduled for the 19th.
I feel comfortable about it, but will be going straight into a no manipulation style right after. So, my hair will be up for another month after.
Thank all of you for your support and inspiration.
Thanks "schipperchow1" for the thread and support!
SmilingElephant
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I said a prayer for you tonight! I know we focus on hair; but you are the first person I connected with on this site and we all have become close even though we don't know each other personally. I feel as though I know everyone.... and I do care if anyone is hurting or feeling down. May God give you strength to get through the health situation, take away the stress, and let you feel the love of all your sisters here at LHCF. WE LOVE YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Co-signing here
LadyP its gonna get better. Try doing everything you can to relax...including breathing exercises....which really help me with my anxiety
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Mz.MoMo5235
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these work!!!!
funny though because after watching the 1st video, i was drawn to another video on the side and watched it. after i watched it i came back to watch you're 2nd video WHICH HAPPENED TO BE THE VIDEO I JUST WATCHED lol great minds think a like.
that 3rd video though... i dunno, that dude reminded me of a bug or something lol he was a little weird. and all that manipulation he was doing was scaring me! i would have had a rats nest on top of my head had he did that to me for 8 minutes lmao
Lucia
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Be careful with that BKT it's not all rainbows and sunshine, alot of them dry your hair out b/c of the treatment itself high alcohol and the blow frying and flat ironing on super high heat. I just want you to know what your walking into.
Lucia
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schipperchow1
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Thank you! I am glad that there are other ladies growing to HL with me
This thread is so good because of the ladies who post here...otherwise, I'd have to ...
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LadyPaniolo
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Don't stressJust take it easy & take care of yourself & your babies
:Rose:
I'm glad that you ladies are keeping this thread alive, staying on track & learning new tips to maximize your growth! Thank you!It's hard going... thank goodness I have my DH's support and my family's willingness to watch my 2 little ones or I'd be
for sure. It is beyond difficult taking those 2 with me to the doctor. They are well behaved but it's just so much harder when you have 2 toddlers underfoot.
How are you ladies going to take your progress picture? Wet & stretched, blow-dried, flat-ironed, rollerset & wrap? I don't want anyone thinking they have to risk heat damage to show length. I may do a rollerset & pull straight.
I think I may do wet and stretched. That's the easiest for me to manage.
I did flat iron (will take pics tonight) but I'm really distressed by the state of my ends! I don't know WHY I keep getting these splits. I trim them off and more just sprout right up behind them. I have been doing Aphogee 2 step to try and stop it, with no success. Sigh. I keep my hair up and protected, yet the ends STILL split.
I said a prayer for you tonight! I know we focus on hair; but you are the first person I connected with on this site and we all have become close even though we don't know each other personally. I feel as though I know everyone.... and I do care if anyone is hurting or feeling down. May God give you strength to get through the health situation, take away the stress, and let you feel the love of all your sisters here at LHCF. WE LOVE YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thank you so much! I can't tell you how much your kind words mean to me! 
Co-signing here
LadyP its gonna get better. Try doing everything you can to relax...including breathing exercises....which really help me with my anxiety
Thank you!
I have been spending time just rocking in my recliner while I listen to some old school music like The Eagles, Fleetwood Mac and this 50 years of Motown compilation. The music relaxes me a lot. Hot herbal tea helps too. :scratchch next time I do that, I should slap some Kenra MC on my head and put on the trusty old Mastex heating cap On a positive note, I bought some (way too many) hand carved hair forks, hairsticks and big barrettes from a lady in Saigon on etsy. I can't wait for them to get here. It was pricey (because I bought like 6 lol) but I felt like I needed some kind of little treat for myself. And since cake and pie is out of the equation
hair jewelry was a good substitute.
LoveLongLocks
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Thanks Lucia!
I have done a lot of research on it, and I am aware of the pros and cons - but I am still very nervous about it. I am doing it more as a favor, and I am hoping for good results.
Believe me....I am resisting backing out, but I am trying to be good on my word. I have been looking for reasons to not do it, because I am so nervous...
She is a long time friend and has been a professional stylist for years. She has always wanted to do my hair, of which I have avoided like the plague! (b/c I prefer to care for my own hair, and have had bad experiences with stylists)...Because she is my friend I trust her and made it clear that if there is a possibility of my curl pattern being lost, pressure for hair cut, or severe damage - I am not going to do it. She has reassured me that this will not be the case...but I am still very scared guys...
I have heard more positive experiences than negative
...but, most of them don't have past waist length hair, so it makes me wonder ....Do any of you ladies close to Hip length have any experiences with BKT?
Again thanks Lucia for you concern
- It is a big decision to me, and I have been holding it in 
assuming no one wants to hear about my little hair decision erplexed and of course it is a BIG deal to me
- as you can all relate. Cause y'all know that if she messes up my hair
, 
and, we won't be friends anymore !
Mz.MoMo5235
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i havent heard of any one past bsl doing it honestly. i see plenty of apl's doing it and some bsl's, but so far no mbl or longer (that's i've noticed at least).
i'm still personally scared of bkt's and from what i hear it does change your curl pattern. now what extent will yours change after just one use? i dont know. but i know i'm scared to death of it because it reminds me too much of relaxers
i'm still personally scared of bkt's and from what i hear it does change your curl pattern. now what extent will yours change after just one use? i dont know. but i know i'm scared to death of it because it reminds me too much of relaxers
Lucia
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@ LP
have you tried rpcc roux porosity control it helps with moisture and
makes hair ESP ends feel divine. I only use the conditioner since I'm a
CW girl only. Also you could try evoo over your fav leave on conditioner
evoo is great stuff I slept on it all last year and I regret it.
@ LLL
I do have experience with goleshee BKT it didn't have formaldehyde
in it but tins of alcohol and really it didn't improve my hair much
and my straight look didn't last any longer. It did flatten my curls and I have a couple
couple small patches in crown and front that are now 1c almost.
I guess they got heated permanantly straight. Also watch out for the dryness
I had to do alot more to keepoisture levels up in my hair since that 1 time bkt
even chaz dean wen creator says bkt is bad news
maybe I'd be HL already cause I didn't need it for managability and it didn't help he way I thought it would
just be careful u don't know if this freind just wants to get @ ur hair to wreck it.
at least it washes out in 3 months w sls shampoos and conditioners
HTH
have you tried rpcc roux porosity control it helps with moisture and
makes hair ESP ends feel divine. I only use the conditioner since I'm a
CW girl only. Also you could try evoo over your fav leave on conditioner
evoo is great stuff I slept on it all last year and I regret it.
@ LLL
I do have experience with goleshee BKT it didn't have formaldehyde
in it but tins of alcohol and really it didn't improve my hair much
and my straight look didn't last any longer. It did flatten my curls and I have a couple
couple small patches in crown and front that are now 1c almost.
I guess they got heated permanantly straight. Also watch out for the dryness
I had to do alot more to keepoisture levels up in my hair since that 1 time bkt
even chaz dean wen creator says bkt is bad news
maybe I'd be HL already cause I didn't need it for managability and it didn't help he way I thought it would
just be careful u don't know if this freind just wants to get @ ur hair to wreck it.
at least it washes out in 3 months w sls shampoos and conditioners
HTH
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mariofmagdal
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Reading your post, and based upon your feelings alone, I strongly urge you not to do it.Thanks Lucia!
I have done a lot of research on it, and I am aware of the pros and cons - but I am still very nervous about it. I am doing it more as a favor, and I am hoping for good results.
Believe me....I am resisting backing out, but I am trying to be good on my word. I have been looking for reasons to not do it, because I am so nervous...
I have heard more positive experiences than negative
Do any of you ladies close to Hip length have any experiences with BKT?
Again thanks Lucia for you concern
and of course it is a BIG deal to me
Cause y'all know that if she messes up my hair
Lucia
Well-Known Member
Adding
you cam check my fotki pics
it's obvious from the bouncy spirals I had before bkt
to the flattened out almost droopy eaves I has after
thank God most of my curls came back but with alot of tlc and moisture
seriously it won't much for you
your not obliged to keep your word if u change ur mind
you don't owe her it's your hair
you cam check my fotki pics
it's obvious from the bouncy spirals I had before bkt
to the flattened out almost droopy eaves I has after
thank God most of my curls came back but with alot of tlc and moisture
seriously it won't much for you
your not obliged to keep your word if u change ur mind
you don't owe her it's your hair
LoveLongLocks
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I will check out your pics.
Did the effects of the dryness wash away with the treatment, or did you find that dryness was a side effect?
As a "curly chic" the last thing I need is more dryness.
Thank you all....
You guys are really my Long hair care sisters!
Mz.MoMo5235
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anyone here seen or heard of a no product challenge?
LoveLongLocks
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Your hair is very beautiful and thick. I am glad that you were able to maintain your hair after the treatment.
I am really on the fence on it. I would love to enjoy easier styling or less breakage, but it has just taken so much work for me to get to this point. It feels like such a risk. I will def keep you guys posted.
Btw - thank all of you for your responses, i am open to any and all suggestions...and will decide in the end. I will continue researching this, but will try to decide by Mon. Cause I am dying to be in a sew -in
and rock my weave! It's dyed, oiled up, and waiting on my towel rack - lolNo product challenge? I think that would lead to breakage and tangles for most people. The last time I went with no product whatsoever, I had to wash the very next day, and lost two huge fistfuls of hair.
Maybe a minimal product challenge, or one oil/butter only challenge?
mariofmagdal
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No product challenge? I think that would lead to breakage and tangles for most people. The last time I went with no product whatsoever, I had to wash the very next day, and lost two huge fistfuls of hair.
Maybe a minimal product challenge, or one oil/butter only challenge?
That type of challenge would not work for me
Lucia
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I will check out your pics.
Did the effects of the dryness wash away with the treatment, or did you find that dryness was a side effect?
As a "curly chic" the last thing I need is more dryness.
Thank you all....
You guys are really my Long hair care sisters!
the dryness was a side effect until I could get it out of my hair
but the damage was done I had alot of ssk and splits that I hadn't
had in a long time also I made the mistake of getting a sew in weave right
after the 1st washing of the bkt so I discovered the probs later when I took
my install down then I went into super tlc mode
I had done tons of research and viewing albums too it's always a big risk
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Mz.MoMo5235
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yeah... i've learned that now lol. i saw a bunch of naked hair pix and got inspired to do it my self today. while i was in the prepping stage i was trying to get more info on it and someone stated that they thought they saw a challenge for it. i didnt want to join, just to get some pointer on what i should do.
last nite i marinated my head in oil, then i washed my hair this morning (sulfate free poo and cond) then i towel dried and then air dried. my hair actually felt really really nice and soft but it was very poofy and not as pretty as the pix i saw lol. i may try this again but do a co-wash instead of poo and cond.
about an hour ago i added a tad bit of leave in and evoo to tame the mane. my hair feels good still, but its still poofy and frizzy looking, but it doesnt feel dry or any thing. i think tomorrow i will spritz my hair and add more leave in and evoo. i think it was a cool experiment though, not an every day thing. although i did find a girl on bhm who i have always drooled over actually does naked hair every day! its her reggie, i never knew that! it works for her though, crazy how there are so many ways to deal with our kind of hair lol
last nite i marinated my head in oil, then i washed my hair this morning (sulfate free poo and cond) then i towel dried and then air dried. my hair actually felt really really nice and soft but it was very poofy and not as pretty as the pix i saw lol. i may try this again but do a co-wash instead of poo and cond.
about an hour ago i added a tad bit of leave in and evoo to tame the mane. my hair feels good still, but its still poofy and frizzy looking, but it doesnt feel dry or any thing. i think tomorrow i will spritz my hair and add more leave in and evoo. i think it was a cool experiment though, not an every day thing. although i did find a girl on bhm who i have always drooled over actually does naked hair every day! its her reggie, i never knew that! it works for her though, crazy how there are so many ways to deal with our kind of hair lol
Mz.MoMo5235
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maybe a thicker leave-in in that area?
LoveLongLocks
New Member
Thanks for sharing your experience.
I will really be
about all of this while I making up my mind.I am so tempted just to put my weave in....and go about my frizzy hair business :flyingwit. I will let you guys know. My appointment is on the 19th. But if I update with an install ....you will know that I skipped out on that one.
Candy828
New Member
Thanks Lucia!
I have done a lot of research on it, and I am aware of the pros and cons - but I am still very nervous about it. I am doing it more as a favor, and I am hoping for good results.
Believe me....I am resisting backing out, but I am trying to be good on my word. I have been looking for reasons to not do it, because I am so nervous...
I have heard more positive experiences than negative
Do any of you ladies close to Hip length have any experiences with BKT?
Again thanks Lucia for you concern
and of course it is a BIG deal to me
Cause y'all know that if she messes up my hair
I have never had a BKT, but half my head of hair is hip length and the other half is just grazing hip now and that has been from careful protection and "theory" treatment...... The longer your hair is, the older the ends are... Just read it this article:
How can I make my Hair Grow Faster?
http://www.bellaonline.com/articles/art2341.asp
Quote from the article...By Lynne Chapman, Bella's Online Hair Editor
"Let me explain.
The longer your hair is, the ‘older’ the ends of it are. Everyday, wear and tear, such as sun, wind, blow drying, curling irons and other heat styling tools, even shampooing and brushing, all work together to gradually erode each hair. This eventually causes split ends that will, in turn, result in the hair breaking off."
With this said.... the longest part of your hair can not stand "super heat" and if you flat iron once in a while the heat should be mild.... but if you use a maxiglide like "LeobodyC5", then you'd be ok with more heat because of the steam feature... (I hope this makes sense").
Chemicals, styling tools, and "everyday wear and tear" like the artilce say's, breaks the hair down. Thus the hair get's weaker as time goes on...Then breakage and split ends occur. Natural hair get's stronger and longer...
The only thing in this article that doesn't fit me personally.... is I don't get regular trims, but I do S&D and Dusting regularly; which is just as good!
The proof will be in results I show... Extremely long hair takes attention to everything around you that might jeopardize or comprise it! Knowledge is POWER!
I am sure your friend means well, but if she doesn't have waist length, hip length, classic length hair.....Then she can't possibly know what is best for yours. A long hair person knows these things because of the experience it takes to get there! Please don't take this the wrong way... it is only meant to proctect YOU!I agree with Lucia!
LoveLongLocks
New Member
I have never had a BKT, but half my head of hair is hip length and the other half is just grazing hip now and that has been from careful protection and "theory" treatment...... The longer your hair is, the older the ends are... Just read it this article:
How can I make my Hair Grow Faster?
http://www.bellaonline.com/articles/art2341.asp
Quote from the article...By Lynne Chapman, Bella's Online Hair Editor
"Let me explain.
The longer your hair is, the ‘older’ the ends of it are. Everyday, wear and tear, such as sun, wind, blow drying, curling irons and other heat styling tools, even shampooing and brushing, all work together to gradually erode each hair. This eventually causes split ends that will, in turn, result in the hair breaking off."
With this said.... the longest part of your hair can not stand "super heat" and if you flat iron once in a while the heat should be mild.... but if you use a maxiglide like "LeobodyC5", then you'd be ok with more heat because of the steam feature... (I hope this makes sense").
Chemicals, styling tools, and "everyday wear and tear" like the artilce say's, breaks the hair down. Thus the hair get's weaker as time goes on...Then breakage and split ends occur. Natural hair get's stronger and longer...
The only thing in this article that doesn't fit me personally.... is I don't get regular trims, but I do S&D and Dusting regularly; which is just as good!
Extremely long hair takes attention to everything around you that might jeopardize or comprise it! Knowledge is POWER!
I agree with Lucia!
No offense here. I appreciate all info Candy'!
Fact of the matter is that she asked me over a month ago. And I told her to allow me to research the treatment b/4 I made my final decision.
I wanted to make an informed decision, because it took lots of hits and misses, set backs, ect. to learn to care for my hair years ago.
She does not have long hair
- I don't know if this is by choice or lack of knowledge on long hair care. But she has been a professional beautician for over 16 yrs., and I trust her as a friend - but as vain or self absorbed as it may sound....my hair is very important to me . It symbolizes many things that would sound too 
to even mention . I :heart2:her, but I have come so far in my hair journey to risk damage. I know that many women swear by the BKT, and I respect that - but, what I have been doing has been working for me...so, if I can live with some reversion in the humidity. At the end of the day we have already broken many stereo types (black women can't have long hair ect.), and I am thankful that I know how to care for my hair and my daughter's hair.Guys, thank you so much for your advice, support, and flat out giving a darn about my head:Rose: (cause you all know that I have been burning my Husbands ear off about this
) He knows more about hair care than some women....Decision made...
Now :crossfingers: on telling her to no thank you
.So, I will be in a sew- in as soon as I come back from camping! And will continue to update!....
schipperchow1
New Member
Ladies: Next Sunday is length check-in day!! Here's a little extra hair growing fairy dust 
before we take out our cameras 
start taking pics
& showing gorgeous hair!! 
BostonMaria
Well-Known Member
I trust her as a friend - but as vain or self absorbed as it may sound....my hair is very important to me
You're preaching to the choir! Of course we understand! I had to chop off all my hair back in 2007 and have been growing it out ever since. I would never experiment with a chemical at this length. Maybe at nape length when I had nothing to lose, but not at almost WSL.
Honestly I'm sure your friend means well, but don't do it. This might offend some people, but I have yet to see one BKT person with hair that wows me. Well let me rephrase that, I haven't seen a BKT hair that didn't look any different than blowdried+flatironed hair. I would hate to see you have a set back.
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