GPB Balancing Protein Conditioner INGREDIENTS: Aqua, cetyl alcohol (from coconut), alcohol denat. (38b, lavender), aloe barbadensis leaf juice*, triticum vulgare (wheat) germ oil, fragrance‡‡, glycerin, milk protein, brassica campestris/aleurites fordi oil copolymer, citrus grandis (grapefruit) extract, salvia officinalis (sage) oil*, ascorbic acid (vitamin C), glycine soja oil‡, rosmarinus officinalis (rosemary) leaf oil*, ricinus communis (castor) oil, tocopherol (vitamin E), glycoprotein, beta-carotene‡, daucus carota sativa (carrot) root extract‡, equisetum hyemale (horsetail) extract, tussilago farfara (coltsfoot) leaf extract, urtica dioica (nettle) extract*. *Organic ‡ Tested non-GMO ‡‡ Natural isolate blend sourced from essential oils D-123 Golden75
I think I want @EnExitStageLeft to do this, because she has hair samples, pre and post henndigo treatments.
Then Wendy can measure non hennaed hair vs hair with a certain number of henna treatments for thickness.
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Do you ladies know any equivalent to aubrey gpb?
@g.lo @colibri972
I had my hair analyzed, well.
I was shocked to find out that the majority of my hair was medium, too. She also told me that my hair is soft. I think what she is calling soft, you and I would call silky.
I inquired if the build up of my henna treatments were making my hair medium, and she reiterated that my hair is soft.
She had a random sample of my hair from January when I was only four treatments in. Also, I sent her hair from March, which has had five henna treatments. She stated the March sample was darker and sent a slide reflecting that, but the henna is not contributing to my strands getting thicker. The majority are just medium.
I was shocked!
One other thing was surprising, I need to leave ACV rinses alone. She sent a slide showing an ACV solution lifting my cuticles. I forgot the ratio of water to ACV, but it was pH adjusted at 3.5.
I had stopped them due to minimizing the steps in my routine (laziness)
I think this is a great service to verify your hair properties for the price.
I usually burn my hair in a jar when I'm ready to dispose of it, so it was creepy sending my hair to someone in the mail.
The postal worker was looking at me all crazy. Like why the hayle do you have baggies of hair labeled crown, nape, sides, front/top and random with dates on them.
He was like look! "I recommend a padded envelope because this may get snared in the machines in a normal envelope." My superstitious behind paid the extra :dollar: for the padded one. I know they were laughing at me when I left the post office They were probably like, "can you believe she wanted a tracking number for those baggies of hair?"
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g.lo This is the closest I have found in terms of ingredients, but none of the protein is hydrolyzed and the oils in gpb are not present here: Ultra Aesthetics MSM Moisturizing Conditioner 8 fl oz. Ingredients: Deionized Water, MSM , Natural Vegetable Fatty Acid Base, Milk Protein, Phospholipids, Amino Acids (Cystine, Cystine & Methionine), Glycoprotein (Glycogen & Mucopolysaccharides); extracts of Rosemary, Sage, Coltsfoot, and Horsetail; protein extract; Tocopheryl Acetate, Retinyl Palmitate, Ascorbic Acid and Panthenol (Vitamins E, A, C and B5, respectively, in liposome forms); Grape Seed Extract, Essential Oils. What I ended up replacing it with as my HG medium/light protein Rx is the ingredients to die for organicals deep conditioning creme. HTH!
divachyk said:MileHighDiva, I use to burn my hair too but have since starting trashing it. I have some reservations about mailing my hair to a stranger although I want an analysis.
My teen DD started yelling about them having your DNA. Then she startedtalking about the CIA and planting evidence. Ugh! She has taken all the fun out of it.
I can't see any mentions on my IPhone. PM me if it is a must see. Allons y
@divachyk
You should do it! I think we can all learn from each other's results. Especially,when there's "Aha Moments!
I learned a lot from reading the results in the Komaza Rave thread, such as, too much co-washing can make your hair bulbs/roots weak etc. IIRC, that was @BranwenRosewood, but that's just one example.
Girl, if I could send it off, anyone can!
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My teen DD started yelling about them having your DNA. Then she startedtalking about the CIA and planting evidence. Ugh! She has taken all the fun out of it.
I can't see any mentions on my IPhone. PM me if it is a must see. Allons y
I think the Komaza girls really thumbsdown cowashing in general. The one I spoke to was so happy when I told her that I use shampoo (diluted) weekly and zero cowashing. She actually went a little in on cowashing and how unnecessary it is. I personally didn't mind as I would agree, but I doubt they're that blunt with actual cowashers. Lol.
That's hilarious. If people want your DNA it isn't that hard to get. I doubt that someone is going through the trouble of getting your hair samples to get your DNA. But don't tell your daughter that. Wouldn't want to worry her.
HanaKuroi
Are you going to do it? Or, did DD talk you out of it?
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HanaKuroi, I'm with your daughter although I will likely do it. Are you?
MileHighDiva, I will be old and gray by the time Komaza relaunch their analysis program.
Shoot, I don't know now. Grrrr. I really want to. But my imagination is strong. I can imagine all kinds of stuff now.
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Shoot, I don't know now. Grrrr. I really want to. But my imagination is strong. I can imagine all kinds of stuff now.
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So while I was in the states I jumped on the chance to send in my hair to Wendy (GoosefootPrints), as the postage would be cheaper of course!
This service is pretty much dead on comparable to Komaza's, the onliest difference being that with Komaza one speaks to someone. Wendy is similar as one can reply to her email with questions, so in the end concerns get addressed.
I found it to be more interesting than Komaza in fact. Wendy tests the hair in whatever alkaline or acidic solution of your choosing, in my case I asked for baking soda. She also goes into great detail regarding hair size/thickness, kinking and elasticity, which is something Komaza doesn't do. Komada does give a strand measurement (105 to 138 macrons in my case) but it ended there, no percentage on what hair is how coarse or how fine/medium. Wendy provided a more thorough reading, I love that she gave a percentage on each thickness category, from the hair submitted. I had already noticed that I did have some fine hair and hair that could be medium and Wendy's analysis definitely confirmed. So as per my hair submitted, 4% fine, 31% medium and 65% coarse. Then she goes more indepth and shows what percentage is then slightly coarse, moderately coarse and very coarse ("very coarse" is highest for me) and gives the range of the strand size (me, 56 to 134 macrons) and the average width. Komaza does not mention kinking or elasticity, or at least they didn't with me.
Wendy also said that my scalp issues (itching, flakes, scalp sensitivity and soreness) isn't surprising. She wrote that dense-growing + coarse hair makes an environment in which skin is less able to fend off bacteria and fungi which results in flaking/itching/overall nastiness. It's good to know I guess...the probiotics that Komaza recommended didn't help. Wendy suggests an array of ingredients to try. This reminds me of a thread so I might go update on this there.
The kinking stuff was super intersting, as well as the thorough information on elasticity and porosity. So with GoosefootPrints one gets 3 documents and a JPEG with text. One document is 8 pages (or was for me) with the hair info, doc 2 (14 pages) gives thorough information about ingredients, hair properties, washing methods, oils, proteins, heat-styling, you name it. I read so much on hair and find so many articles to be the same regurgitated ol' crap but this I found very interesting...and doc 3 (2 pages) on fighting frizz. The JPEG relates each hair texture (fine/med/coarse) to elasticity and porosity, giving a list of what-to-do's for each category and combination.
Komaza pros, definitely their photos. Komaza's pics were aaaalladat. But the Wendy's pics are just fine too, they get the job done. In reality I was transitioning when I did Komaza, which probably made for more interesting comparisons and such. Komaza does mention hair bulb health and if there is thinning. My hair isn't thinning so maybe GoosefootPrints would mention it too, if the bulbs were indicating that.
All in all Komaza gives you your properties but there is definitely information you will miss out on if you do not ask. They rely heavily on their phone call and giving your information orally. I do think they may be more designed/inclined to fix a problem, to baby-step you on how to get the hair right. GoosefootPrints gives all the tools and information needed to do it yourself, in print. Wendy does make herself available for questions after the analysis so I guess she will walk you through it if needed? But one really has information all there. Komaza gives a summary document (2 pages in my case), 5-6 photos and the phone call of course. So I guess if one values speaking to somebody, Komaza would be the clear winner. Otherwise GoosefootPrints offers everything Komaza does (and more) for a lot less.
Sorry this ended up being a Komaza vs GoosefootPrint review!
I found out that my hair DOES NOT like ACV which was an eye opener. She tested my hair in a vinegar solution and my hair was bubbling and the swelling was a lot more significant. It has a dehydrating effect that it is having difficulty recovering from. I also learned that it has a low porosity at the roots, normal porosity in the middle, and high porosity at the end which is due to normal wear and tear. But overall, I should consider my hair low porosity. She advised that I should sparingly use shampoo, dilute it or pre-poo beforehand. Kinking is present which is normal. I have low to normal elasticity on both wet and dry. She assumes it was because of the ACV rinses.
This is where I thought her analysis was fascinating. Just under half of my hair are fine, the rest are medium or slightly coarse. The range for my hairs is between 52 and 100 microns. The average is 67 microns. Many of my hairs are silky soft and nearly invisible. I've always thought that my hair was just fine. I didn't realize that I had all three kinds, .
I have a few mid-shafts splits on the finer hair probably due to rough handling. I plead guilty to that,
Her recommendations were to experiment with protein, diluted shampoo and prepoo, stay away from ACV and the Ph range for my hair should be 6-7. I need to use more penetrating oils such as coconut oils.
I've also stopped using combs and started finger detangle. I can tell you that my hair is doing a lot better.
Thanks for the review. I saw this vendor on Etsy a few weeks ago and was going to ask if anyone had tried the service, especially since it's cheaper.So while I was in the states I jumped on the chance to send in my hair to Wendy (GoosefootPrints), as the postage would be cheaper of course!
Hair elasticity dry: Normal
Hair stretch an average of 21%
Hair elasticity wet: Low
Your hairs stretch an average of 14% when wet. Ideally, wet hair stretches more than dry hair. Begin the (finger) detangling on dry hair if possible or practical to avoid stretching wet hai. Use a lubricant such as oil or an oil-butter blend for dry-hair detangling to reduce friction if necessary. For wet-hair detangling, always use a lubricant (conditioner).
Note: "Normal" dry elasticity is the ability to stretch 20-30% of original length. "Normal" wet elasticity is the ability to stretch 30-40% of original length. Ideally, most hairs stretch a similar amount.
Low at roots, low/normal mid-shaft, pourous ends
The roots of your hairs are low in porosity. The middle of your hair is low and normal porosity. The ends of your hair are a mixture of normal porosity and porous, the porous part have most or all cuticle scales eroded.
g.lo
This is the closest I have found in terms of ingredients, but none of the protein is hydrolyzed and the oils in gpb are not present here:
Ultra Aesthetics MSM Moisturizing Conditioner 8 fl oz.
Ingredients: Deionized Water, MSM , Natural Vegetable Fatty Acid Base, Milk Protein, Phospholipids, Amino Acids (Cystine, Cystine & Methionine), Glycoprotein (Glycogen & Mucopolysaccharides); extracts of Rosemary, Sage, Coltsfoot, and Horsetail; protein extract; Tocopheryl Acetate, Retinyl Palmitate, Ascorbic Acid and Panthenol (Vitamins E, A, C and B5, respectively, in liposome forms); Grape Seed Extract, Essential Oils.
What I ended up replacing it with as my HG medium/light protein Rx is the ingredients to die for organicals deep conditioning creme.
HTH!
@virtuenow girl I thought of you at some point as I typed the review! I wondered if you would consider giving it a go.
It's true, a good disclaimer from me could be that I've haven't had any hair issues, aside from my scalp acting a fool. No breakage or lack of retention. I've done these analyses because I'm curious, but it's true that maybe the opinion can vary with someone who was greatly helped by Komaza and/or GoosefootPrints. I'm personally more intersted by the information and what I can learn about my hair, not how to solve a serious hair-growth issue.
Komaza definitely tells you if you need more protein or not, but here's what GoosefootPrint wrote for me on elasticity:
I really like this breakdown. On the JPEG image attached she advises on how to use protein depending on your elasticity and hair thickness. Komaza didn't mention elasticity to me, and LiveCurlyLiveFree just said "normal".
And below is what was said for porosity. Both Komaza and LiveCurlyLiveFree just said "normal" to me. To my Komaza girl I asked why the hair acts like it's low, to which she suggested that it could be the coarseness of my hair that makes products take a lot of time to absorb.
And some added notes under. I also really liked the extra detail here.
Kinking explains how kinky the hair is. On the JPEG she explains how to take kinking into consideration (again according to hair properties) but I personally don't think it's super needed. It's just very interesting IMO to know how kinky the hair is or not. In my case just over half of the hair tested was kinky (have macro-kinking, she explains what she means by this.)
Wendy also does tell you what is wrong with the hair, it's not just your hair properties a la LiveCurlyLiveFree. For example with me, she said that my hair felt "a little dehydrated" and advised according to my properties. In general she said the hair was "very healthy" so I think there isn't a lot to say as far as problems, but I don't doubt that she would catch them if they were present.
So some information Komaza just didn't give (to me at least, like elasticity) and the rest is there but given in a general manner. Most of my hair is coarse so that will be my Komaza reading, ignoring the fine and medium hair present, the length of my hair is normal in porosity so that will be my reading, ignoring that it's low as well, etc. Komaza did tell me the porosity of my then relaxed ends though, so not sure why they didn't report on the low roots. The only thing GoosefootPrint didn't mention that Komaza does is hair bulb health. Both are obvious great services, but Wendy's service really shouldn't be overlooked. She offers a whole lot of information for the money, and in print, so one can refer back to it as needed.
Thanks for the review. I saw this vendor on Etsy a few weeks ago and was going to ask if anyone had tried the service, especially since it's cheaper.