Hair analysis results

[g.lo]

Hi all, I was inspired by colibri972 hair analysis and decided to have one, since i have been struggling with my ends.
I sent my sample before i decide to cut my hair last week.
I live in the Uk and sent my samples 10 days ago and got my results today (fast).
I use goosefootprints from etsy.

Analysis (sorry kinda long.)

mainly medium hair ( a big surprise, i always thought I had fine hair)
12% of my hairs are fine, 73 % medium and 15% are slightly coarse.
average thickness is 71microns and mine varies between 56 to 98.
I am 4a/3c with a some 4b (crown).
Althought my hair is mainly medium it is soft and feel like fine hair
Elasticity on dry hair: normal
Elasticity on wet hair: low

Porosity:

Low at roots ( very surprised, but no wonder why my roots always feel dry, products just sit there and don't penetrate.

the rest is normal porosity except for the last 2 inches of my hair which is extremely porous and cortex exposed ( no wonder why i was truggling with my ends, it has been cut since).

Kinking:

is present, micro kinking which is widely spaces ( which apparently is good)

the normal porosity part of my hair has been tested with on a vinegar solution ph3, my hair didnt react. My hair seems to tolerate the vinegar well.
when tested with an alkaline solution (baking soda), my hair didnt tolerate and bubbled up. the ph was 8.

some splits ends.

Recommendations

my hair may benefit from protein regularly (especially on my ends).
Avoid leaving wet with conditioner for a long time.
Also she is concerned with the alcohol in the Aubrey organics Gpb that i useerplexed
try switching from wet detangling under shower to dry detangling.

pre-poo with oils, incorporate honey in my routine, mixed with my DC.
Apply an oil mix to my ends and avoid butters.


my main concerned is how to deal with low porosity, no clues
Pictures

pic 1: low porous
pic2: normal porosity
pic 3: extremely porous
pic 4: test with baking soda

 

[Channy31]

Thanks for sharing, i'm really interested.

I'm also from the UK how much was postage, if you don't mind me asking

 

[g.lo]

Thanks for sharing, i'm really interested.

I'm also from the UK how much was postage, if you don't mind me asking

a fiver

 

[faithVA]

g.lo;19877069[/USER]]Hi all, I was inspired by colibri972 hair analysis and decided to have one, since i have been struggling with my ends.
I sent my sample before i decide to cut my hair last week.
I live in the Uk and sent my samples 10 days ago and got my results today (fast).
I use goosefootprints from etsy.

Analysis (sorry kinda long.)

mainly medium hair ( a big surprise, i always thought I had fine hair)
12% of my hairs are fine, 73 % medium and 15% are slightly coarse.
average thickness is 71microns and mine varies between 56 to 98.
I am 4a/3c with a some 4b (crown).
Althought my hair is mainly medium it is soft and feel like fine hair
Elasticity on dry hair: normal
Elasticity on wet hair: low

Porosity:

Low at roots ( very surprised, but no wonder why my roots always feel dry, products just sit there and don't penetrate.

the rest is normal porosity except for the last 2 inches of my hair which is extremely porous and cortex exposed ( no wonder why i was truggling with my ends, it has been cut since).

Kinking:

is present, micro kinking which is widely spaces ( which apparently is good)

the normal porosity part of my hair has been tested with on a vinegar solution ph3, my hair didnt react. My hair seems to tolerate the vinegar well.
when tested with an alkaline solution (baking soda), my hair didnt tolerate and bubbled up. the ph was 8.

some splits ends.

Recommendations

my hair may benefit from protein regularly (especially on my ends).
Avoid leaving wet with conditioner for a long time.
Also she is concerned with the alcohol in the Aubrey organics Gpb that i useerplexed
try switching from wet detangling under shower to dry detangling.

pre-poo with oils, incorporate honey in my routine, mixed with my DC.
Apply an oil mix to my ends and avoid butters.


my main concerned is how to deal with low porosity, no clues
Pictures

pic 1: low porous
pic2: normal porosity
pic 3: extremely porous
pic 4: test with baking soda

For your low porosity start with what you are cleansing your hair with. Check the ph. Try to use something that is more ph balanced between 4.5 and 6.5 if you can. Or you can dilute your shampoo and add some AVG/AVJ to it to balance it out a bit. The other things she has suggested should work from there (honey in DC, mix of oils).

 

[MileHighDiva]

g.lo colibri972

I had my hair analyzed, well.

I was shocked to find out that the majority of my hair was medium, too. She also told me that my hair is soft. I think what she is calling soft, you and I would call silky.

I inquired if the build up of my henna treatments were making my hair medium, and she reiterated that my hair is soft.

She had a random sample of my hair from January when I was only four treatments in. Also, I sent her hair from March, which has had five henna treatments. She stated the March sample was darker and sent a slide reflecting that, but the henna is not contributing to my strands getting thicker. The majority are just medium.

I was shocked!

One other thing was surprising, I need to leave ACV rinses alone. She sent a slide showing an ACV solution lifting my cuticles. I forgot the ratio of water to ACV, but it was pH adjusted at 3.5.

I had stopped them due to minimizing the steps in my routine (laziness)

I think this is a great service to verify your hair properties for the price.

I usually burn my hair in a jar when I'm ready to dispose of it, so it was creepy sending my hair to someone in the mail.

The postal worker was looking at me all crazy. Like why the hayle do you have baggies of hair labeled crown, nape, sides, front/top and random with dates on them.

He was like look! "I recommend a padded envelope because this may get snared in the machines in a normal envelope." My superstitious behind paid the extra :dollar: for the padded one. I know they were laughing at me when I left the post office They were probably like, "can you believe she wanted a tracking number for those baggies of hair?"

Sent from my Speak & Spell using LHCF

 

[MileHighDiva]

I think I want EnExitStageLeft to do this, because she has hair samples, pre and post henndigo treatments.

Then Wendy can measure non hennaed hair vs hair with a certain number of henna treatments for thickness.

Sent from my Speak & Spell using LHCF

 

[girlonfire]

Wait a minute. There are companies or specialists who analyze your hair and tell you your best practices' your curl type (which I feel might be more commercial than science based) and texture based on lab reports? How did you go about labeling the samples as fare as discerning which area on the head the hair came from MileHighDiva ?

 

[girlonfire]

Hi all, I was inspired by colibri972 hair analysis and decided to have one, since i have been struggling with my ends.
I sent my sample before i decide to cut my hair last week.
I live in the Uk and sent my samples 10 days ago and got my results today (fast).
I use goosefootprints from etsy.

Analysis (sorry kinda long.)

mainly medium hair ( a big surprise, i always thought I had fine hair)
12% of my hairs are fine, 73 % medium and 15% are slightly coarse.
average thickness is 71microns and mine varies between 56 to 98.
I am 4a/3c with a some 4b (crown).
Althought my hair is mainly medium it is soft and feel like fine hair
Elasticity on dry hair: normal
Elasticity on wet hair: low

Porosity:

Low at roots ( very surprised, but no wonder why my roots always feel dry, products just sit there and don't penetrate.

the rest is normal porosity except for the last 2 inches of my hair which is extremely porous and cortex exposed ( no wonder why i was truggling with my ends, it has been cut since).

Kinking:

is present, micro kinking which is widely spaces ( which apparently is good)

the normal porosity part of my hair has been tested with on a vinegar solution ph3, my hair didnt react. My hair seems to tolerate the vinegar well.
when tested with an alkaline solution (baking soda), my hair didnt tolerate and bubbled up. the ph was 8.

some splits ends.

Recommendations

my hair may benefit from protein regularly (especially on my ends).
Avoid leaving wet with conditioner for a long time.
Also she is concerned with the alcohol in the Aubrey organics Gpb that i useerplexed
try switching from wet detangling under shower to dry detangling.

pre-poo with oils, incorporate honey in my routine, mixed with my DC.
Apply an oil mix to my ends and avoid butters.

my main concerned is how to deal with low porosity, no clues
Pictures

pic 1: low porous
pic2: normal porosity
pic 3: extremely porous
pic 4: test with baking soda

Wait did they tell YOU what your curl type was or are YOU TELLING us that is your hair type?

 

[faithVA]

g.lo colibri972

I had my hair analyzed, well.

I was shocked to find out that the majority of my hair was medium, too. She also told me that my hair is soft. I think what she is calling soft, you and I would call silky.

I inquired if the build up of my henna treatments were making my hair medium, and she reiterated that my hair is soft.

She had a random sample of my hair from January when I was only four treatments in. Also, I sent her hair from March, which has had five henna treatments. She stated the March sample was darker and sent a slide reflecting that, but the henna is not contributing to my strands getting thicker. The majority are just medium.

I was shocked!

One other thing was surprising, I need to leave ACV rinses alone. She sent a slide showing an ACV solution lifting my cuticles. I forgot the ratio of water to ACV, but it was pH adjusted at 3.5.

I had stopped them due to minimizing the steps in my routine (laziness)

I think this is a great service to verify your hair properties for the price.

I usually burn my hair in a jar when I'm ready to dispose of it, so it was creepy sending my hair to someone in the mail.

The postal worker was looking at me all crazy. Like why the hayle do you have baggies of hair labeled crown, nape, sides, front/top and random with dates on them.

He was like look! "I recommend a padded envelope because this may get snared in the machines in a normal envelope." My superstitious behind paid the extra :dollar: for the padded one. I know they were laughing at me when I left the post office They were probably like, "can you believe she wanted a tracking number for those baggies of hair?"

Sent from my Speak & Spell using LHCF

Ok MileHighDiva, Explain to me how you sent your hair? Ok, I think I get it. You sent it in a padded envelope, but you took plastic bags to the post office to put in the envelope? he he he - that's funny.

 

[MileHighDiva]

Wait a minute. There are companies or specialists who analyze your hair and tell you your best practices' your curl type (which I feel might be more commercial than science based) and texture based on lab reports? How did you go about labeling the samples as fare as discerning which area on the head the hair came from MileHighDiva ?

girlonfire

When I was detangling/pre-pooing my hair with what ever EVCO based product I was using, I collected my sheded (sp ?) hair in each area of my head and kept if separated. Then I cleansed each section separately in a small bowl with water and a clarifying poo. After, they were air dried, I placed each sample in a Zip Lock baggy and labeled it with a Sharpie pen.

Also, the recommendations are not based on curl type. They're based on your hair properties, such as, fine, medium, or coarse. High, normal, or low porosity etc.

She only confirmed what I already thought about my curl pattern. 3B in the front/top, 3C on the sides and nape, and 4A in the crown area. The crown area is also where I have coarse hair vs. the fine and medium strands elsewhere.

faithVA, I'm sure that I was the Denver General Mail Facilities entertainment that evening. You should have seen the look on the guys face that was helping me. His non verbals expressed everything he was thinking.

ETA: Yes, I placed the Zip Lock baggies in a small padded envelope with my order # and information. I was trying to save 60 cents by using a normal envelope , until the postal worker shut me down . I'm out of ink, so I e-mail her my questionnaire, along with a couple of photos of my hair and the postal tracking#. She acknowledged my e-mail and also notified me when she received the package.

 

[MileHighDiva]

faithVA, I wish that I could have got in on the Komaza hair analysis like you and some of the other ladies. It was always on hold whenever, I checked into it.

I can't wait to hear what Amarilles thinks of this service, because she has done Live Curly and Komaza.

I think for the price Goose Foot Prints is great! I think if you have scalp and/or other problems that Komaza would be better. I had to ask Wendy about my hair bulbs, but she replied that they looked normal.

 

[faithVA]

faithVA, I wish that I could have got in on the Komaza hair analysis like you and some of the other ladies. It was always on hold whenever, I checked into it.

I can't wait to hear what Amarilles thinks of this service, because she has done Live Curly and Komaza.

I think for the price Goose Foot Prints is great! I think if you have scalp and/or other problems that Komaza would be better. I had to ask Wendy about my hair bulbs, but she replied that they looked normal.

If this is the same analysis as I was reading about last month, I think it is just as good, especially at the price point. Komaza is a very good service but I don't think it is for everyone. What this service seems to offer probably works for the majority.

I'm glad to see more people offering the service.

 

[MileHighDiva]

g.lo, I'm sorry for hijacking your thread! I thought that you had added on to colibri972's thread.

 

[g.lo]

MileHighDiva, you are right i asked her to clarify what she meant by soft and it is silky.
she talked about the henna part, but i have to read again about it.
faithVA, thank you so much.

 

[g.lo]

g.lo, I'm sorry for hijacking your thread! I thought that you had added on to colibri972's thread.

Oh no, you are not high jacking, we are having open constructive conversation

 

[alanaturelle]

Are you ladies talking about Wendy from Goosefootprints? I had her analyzed my hair as well back at the beginning of December.

 

[g.lo]

Wait did they tell YOU what your curl type was or are YOU TELLING us that is your hair type?

Wait a minute. There are companies or specialists who analyze your hair and tell you your best practices' your curl type (which I feel might be more commercial than science based) and texture based on lab reports? How did you go about labeling the samples as fare as discerning which area on the head the hair came from MileHighDiva ?

i collected hair overall and labelled it "general", than i collect from the crown and sides and put them in separate bags labelled "crown" and "sides".

she told me my hair type.
I am really happy with the service.

 

[g.lo]

Are you ladies talking about Wendy from Goosefootprints? I had her analyzed my hair as well back at the beginning of December.

yes we are talking about Wendy, would you mind sharing your experience.

 

[MileHighDiva]

Are you ladies talking about Wendy from Goosefootprints? I had her analyzed my hair as well back at the beginning of December.

Yes, alanaturelle. Did you find out anything that you didn't know through your analysis? For example, your strands being thicker than you initially thought etc.

 

[alanaturelle]

yes we are talking about Wendy, would you mind sharing your experience.

I found out that my hair DOES NOT like ACV which was an eye opener. She tested my hair in a vinegar solution and my hair was bubbling and the swelling was a lot more significant. It has a dehydrating effect that it is having difficulty recovering from. I also learned that it has a low porosity at the roots, normal porosity in the middle, and high porosity at the end which is due to normal wear and tear. But overall, I should consider my hair low porosity. She advised that I should sparingly use shampoo, dilute it or pre-poo beforehand. Kinking is present which is normal. I have low to normal elasticity on both wet and dry. She assumes it was because of the ACV rinses.

Yes, alanaturelle. Did you find out anything that you didn't know through your analysis? For example, your strands being thicker than you initially thought etc.

This is where I thought her analysis was fascinating. Just under half of my hair are fine, the rest are medium or slightly coarse. The range for my hairs is between 52 and 100 microns. The average is 67 microns. Many of my hairs are silky soft and nearly invisible. I've always thought that my hair was just fine. I didn't realize that I had all three kinds, .

I have a few mid-shafts splits on the finer hair probably due to rough handling. I plead guilty to that,

Her recommendations were to experiment with protein, diluted shampoo and prepoo, stay away from ACV and the Ph range for my hair should be 6-7. I need to use more penetrating oils such as coconut oils.

I've also stopped using combs and started finger detangle. I can tell you that my hair is doing a lot better.

 

[faithVA]

g.lo colibri972


One other thing was surprising, I need to leave ACV rinses alone. She sent a slide showing an ACV solution lifting my cuticles. I forgot the ratio of water to ACV, but it was pH adjusted at 3.5.

I had stopped them due to minimizing the steps in my routine (laziness)



Sent from my Speak & Spell using LHCF

I found out that my hair DOES NOT like ACV which was an eye opener. She tested my hair in a vinegar solution and my hair was bubbling and the swelling was a lot more significant. It has a dehydrating effect that it is having difficulty recovering from. I also learned that it has a low porosity at the roots, normal porosity in the middle, and high porosity at the end which is due to normal wear and tear. But overall, I should consider my hair low porosity. She advised that I should sparingly use shampoo, dilute it or pre-poo beforehand. Kinking is present which is normal. I have low to normal elasticity on both wet and dry. She assumes it was because of the ACV rinses.

Yeah I might want to do this to find out if my hair likes ACV.

I wonder if it is really ACV or the ph level at which she is doing it. If you are doing an ACV rinse with a ph of 3.5 vs one with a ph of 5.5 do you know if that makes a difference.

I guess what I am trying to figure out is, is it the ph level one has to stay away from vs. the actual ACV.

 

[Amarilles]

Thanks for the reminder MileHighDiva! I've already placed her as a favorite on my Etsy account.

I'll do this test once I'm finally natural in August or September.

 

[MileHighDiva]

Yeah I might want to do this to find out if my hair likes ACV.

I wonder if it is really ACV or the ph level at which she is doing it. If you are doing an ACV rinse with a ph of 3.5 vs one with a ph of 5.5 do you know if that makes a difference.

I guess what I am trying to figure out is, is it the ph level one has to stay away from vs. the actual ACV.

faithVA

That's a good question! I was going to buy some Joico Cuticle Sealer or Roux PC for my ends, which are high porosity. Maybe, I should hold off till there's clarification, regarding this.

Someone else needs to inquire, because I've already blown her up about my hair being medium vs. fine and my hair bulbs

 

[faithVA]

faithVA

That's a good question! I was going to buy some Joico Cuticle Sealer or Roux PC for my ends, which are high porosity. Maybe, I should hold off till there's clarification, regarding this.

Someone else needs to inquire, because I've already blown her up about my hair being medium vs. fine and my hair bulbs

I have a feeling it is the ph that is the issue. However, most people don't sufficiently dilute ACV to keep the ph high enough. I'm going to play around with this when I get home.

 

[Amarilles]

Yeah I might want to do this to find out if my hair likes ACV.

I wonder if it is really ACV or the ph level at which she is doing it. If you are doing an ACV rinse with a ph of 3.5 vs one with a ph of 5.5 do you know if that makes a difference.

I guess what I am trying to figure out is, is it the ph level one has to stay away from vs. the actual ACV.

Logically it should be the pH and not the ACV in and of itself. It would be a good idea to know what pH her ACV is to then know how low one can go.

I personally don't do pH swings (going from a high number to a low one or vice versa). I like to stay between a pH of 4.5-7.

 

[MileHighDiva]

Notes: I tested the normal porosity mid-shafts of your hair in a vinegar solution (15 ml vinegar in 230 ml water or 1 tablespoon per cup). The pH of this is ~3.5. There were bubbles evolving from the hair as acid moves into the hair, but it is not swelling severely. Your hair is somewhat sensitive to this concentration of acid. It might be best for your hair to use vinegar infrequently. It is having a cuticle-lifting rather than cuticle-closing effect on your hair overall. Your hair tends to be dehydrated at the ends, so the ends need extra care for their porosity. Because you use henna, and because your hair is curly, and because you live in a dry climate your hair will probably benefit from using extra lubrication (slip) because henna as well as the porosity at the ends increases friction and tangling. Increased friction leads to increased porosity because friction breaks cuticles and ultimately they are rubbed away.

Amarilles and faithVA The above information includes the ratio of water and ACV she used along with the pH.

 

[faithVA]

Logically it should be the pH and not the ACV in and of itself. It would be a good idea to know what pH her ACV is to then know how low one can go.

I personally don't do pH swings (going from a high number to a low one or vice versa). I like to stay between a pH of 4.5-7.

Yes, I am learning that as well. I am sticking more to that range. Things outside of that range make my hair crazy.

My ACV is between 3 and 3.5. However, when I combine that with tea or water, it just requires that I use very little to drop the ph of the water or tea down to 4.5 or 5. Since paying attention to ph my hair is doing much better.

 

[faithVA]

Notes: I tested the normal porosity mid-shafts of your hair in a vinegar solution (15 ml vinegar in 230 ml water or 1 tablespoon per cup). The pH of this is ~3.5. There were bubbles evolving from the hair as acid moves into the hair, but it is not swelling severely. Your hair is somewhat sensitive to this concentration of acid. It might be best for your hair to use vinegar infrequently. It is having a cuticle-lifting rather than cuticle-closing effect on your hair overall. Your hair tends to be dehydrated at the ends, so the ends need extra care for their porosity. Because you use henna, and because your hair is curly, and because you live in a dry climate your hair will probably benefit from using extra lubrication (slip) because henna as well as the porosity at the ends increases friction and tangling. Increased friction leads to increased porosity because friction breaks cuticles and ultimately they are rubbed away.

Amarilles and faithVA The above information includes the ratio of water and ACV she used along with the pH.

Thank You MileHighDiva. That is helpful. Not sure of the science behind it or why she would put use something with such a low ph. But what she did say was to use it infrequently. That helped me.

Some people do use the equivalent of 1 tbsp per cup which I think is too much for anyone. I think 1/8 tbsp of ACV to 1 cup of water drops the ph down really low.

My hair sounds a bit like yours with dehydrated ends.

 

[alanaturelle]

Logically it should be the pH and not the ACV in and of itself. It would be a good idea to know what pH her ACV is to then know how low one can go.

I personally don't do pH swings (going from a high number to a low one or vice versa). I like to stay between a pH of 4.5-7.

I agree that it's more the Ph than ACV but we tend to think that we need an ACV Rinse to seal the cuticles. For my hair, Ph 5-7 is better.

ETA: I went back to look at the report and yes it's more about the acidity than the product.

 

[g.lo]

Yeah I might want to do this to find out if my hair likes ACV.

I wonder if it is really ACV or the ph level at which she is doing it. If you are doing an ACV rinse with a ph of 3.5 vs one with a ph of 5.5 do you know if that makes a difference.

I guess what I am trying to figure out is, is it the ph level one has to stay away from vs. the actual ACV.[/QUOTE]

the bolded, she explained to me that my hair prefers products more on the acide side than alkaline. which i agree, because high ph products doesn't work for me, a range of 4.5 to 6 is the best for me.