Does state of stylist hair = ability?

Does state of hair = stylist ability

  • Yes-a good stylist keeps her hair healthy

    Votes: 109 66.9%

  • No- the state of clients' hair is what determines ability

    Votes: 43 26.4%

  • Not sure

    Votes: 11 6.7%
  • Total voters
    163
  • Poll closed .
onejamifan

onejamifan

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I'm a bit mad at stylists today after what I feel was total disregard of client wishes and seroious overlapping of relaxer. So needless to say, I have decided to go DIY from now on. Don't need to be giving my money to some unqualified stylist.:nono:

But any way, I started wondering something. If a stylist has chewed up, dry, mistreated hair, does it mean that she really doesn't know how to care for other's hair, or does it mean she doesn't care about her own? I mean, this lady I have been going to has like 2 inches of relaxed chewed up hair on her head and being a stylist, she should know better how to take care of it. The other thing, is that I noticed that all the clients at that salon also had 3-5 inches of chewed up hair on their heads. At least while I was there, only one girl had nice healthy hair and it was SL. Everyone else, would barely make it to chin length...

So what do you think, does the state of a stylist hair = ability?
 
A jacked up head may not = ability, but I'm not taking any chances. If they can't take care of thier own head, what can they do for mine?
 
There's no reason their own hair should be jacked up if they know how to take good care of hair.
 
The way I see it, if a stylist has jacked up hair (not talking bed head-that may just be laziness), it's usually because they know nada about hair care health. They may know how to style out of this world but maintaining hair health is unknown to them.
 
IMO it does! If he/she can't take proper care of their own hair, they better stay as far away from my hair as possible:ohwell:
 
I wouldn't hire a fitness trainer who was in worse physical shape than I was, and I sure as heck wouldn't use a hair stylist whose own hair wasn't on point.
 
I feel like stylists hair should be on point 24/7. I mean they LIVE at the poo bowl. That tyhey should be pooing conditioniing and treating their hair non stop!! They have all the time in the world between clients to make their hair healthy and presentable. It's likea living breathing model of the work that they do. Therefore I don't want a stylist with SEE through ends, SPLIT ends, or NO ends past the shoulders...and THAT my friends is the bottom line lol :yep:
 
JustKiya said:
I wouldn't hire a fitness trainer who was in worse physical shape than I was, and I sure as heck wouldn't use a hair stylist whose own hair wasn't on point.
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ITA :yep:. My two former stylists before I became a DIYer were weave queens but really didn't know jack about healthy hair. When I decided to go natural I decided that if someone was going to jack up my hair it would be me. LOL:lachen:
 
It is great to see that I'm not the only one that feels this way. I kind of felt like making a flyer about the LHCF and distributing it in the hair salon and telling the stylist that she needs to do a little lurking around here herself :lachen:.
 
Yes and no. Yes in the sense that it probably tells a story on the stylists knowledge of black hair hair... No in the sense that the stylist may be a GREAT stylist who goes for LOOKS and cares nothing about the client hair being there in the next 2weeks. I have a friend who doesn't have the BEST hair (healthwise) but is definately a great stylist.. so I just pretend I'm an obsessive-compulsive tenderheaded fool who MUST wash my kanekalon hair with vinegar for 15min then spray down each strand with braid spray before applying it to my hair. Her being my bff fully understands this =) :spinning:
 
I Totally Agree....but I don't gamble on it.
I've seen some folks that are so busy that they don't have time for self maintenance. Others who just experiment to damn much on their own hair. These folks I knew...., if I were to walk in off the streets and see a HAM wanting to do my hair, I'd quickly moon walk the "F" outta there!


hair_obsession said:
A jacked up head may not = ability, but I'm not taking any chances. If they can't take care of thier own head, what can they do for mine?
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yes. my stylist is transitioning and the day she did my hair there was 90% humidity in the air. so she wasn't particularly "stylish" that day with her hair... 2 long braids and a hat to cover her roots. but you could still tell her hair itself was healthy, that's what i look for. :yep:

(i know a few stylists who prefer keeping their hair short because they spend all day styling other people's hair... so in their case i suppose you'd have to judge them by their clients.)
 
ladylibra said:
yes. my stylist is transitioning and the day she did my hair there was 90% humidity in the air. so she wasn't particularly "stylish" that day with her hair... 2 long braids and a hat to cover her roots. but you could still tell her hair itself was healthy, that's what i look for. :yep:

(i know a few stylists who prefer keeping their hair short because they spend all day styling other people's hair... so in their case i suppose you'd have to judge them by their clients.)
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I don't have a problem with short hair. The only stylist I will let in my hair keeps her hair cut short. But, her hair is extremely healthy.
 
I mean if you can't take care of your own head, how u gone try to fix up on somebody else hair. Jacked up head stylist scared me for life!:lachen: That's why i dyi myself.
 
A horrible hairstylist could still have great skills, but who wants to risk it? I don't have time to play Russian Roulette with my hair. If a stylist's hair is not on point, and she doesn't have a variety of hair lengths (including long) that's in great shape coming in and out her salon, I don't want to be apart of it.
 
what about male stylists? (the ones with shaved hair) I mean, we cant tell their ability by the state of their hair.
 
Hair care is up to you, for the mostpart. Stylists are just that - STYLIST. Not many of them specialize in HAIR CARE but they can install a fabulous weave!

But her hair doesn't really speak to her skills anyway. This reminds me of that scene in Poetic Justice .. you know, when she didn't wanna take her hat off cause her braids had a bunch of newgrowth .. yeah, I took ya waaay back.

ANYWAYZ.. I know I'm not the only one who has noticed that my dentist's breath stinks. Same thing. I still trust him to put on my crown.
 
Kytten said:
Hair care is up to you, for the mostpart. Stylists are just that - STYLIST. Not many of them specialize in HAIR CARE but they can install a fabulous weave!

But her hair doesn't really speak to her skills anyway. This reminds me of that scene in Poetic Justice .. you know, when she didn't wanna take her hat off cause her braids had a bunch of newgrowth .. yeah, I took ya waaay back.

ANYWAYZ.. I know I'm not the only one who has noticed that my dentist's breath stinks. Same thing. I still trust him to put on my crown.
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:lachen:@ the dentist.
 
No it doesn't. The very best stylist I had wore her hair all slicked back in a 90s style phony pony. It always looked weird/questionable, but she did wonders for my hair. My ends have never been so healthy and thick.
 
Ohhh...you better believe it does. Most often times, we don't consider what stylist's do as part of a profession (regardless of whether your particular stylist does hair seriously or as recreation). Any professional in their respective field knows (or should know) that their appearance is the first reflection of their abilities. Just think, you wouldn't sit in the chair of a dentist with disgusting teeth. If a stylist's hair is jacked, you have every right to question their skills. And $5 dollars says that the skills won't be there:nono:
 
It depends on what you are there for.

If he or she is a stylist who is best with scissors and they have a poor cut, then I wouldn't let them style my hair (cut it into a style). However, I DO NOT WANT A CUT STYLE...so even if her hair was "on point" I wouldn't rely on her to help maintain the "health" of my hair.

Same for color specialists. I can't expect her to be a hair health guru, but if she's dyed her hair some unnatural color it had better look fantastic! Which will require it to be healthy as well. Same for the cutting stylist example above.

Healthy hair is required for styles, color, relaxers, perms, etc. to look their best...but I don't and wouldn't rely on a "stylist" to be a "maintenance-ist" so to speak for my hair.

I should know how to conition and wash my own hair. If I want a stylist who will do everything for me (wash, condition, know what my hairs needs, when to give me protein, when I need ceramides, when I need a dusting vs. a trim, what my diet should be, does my hair like cones, does it not like coes, does it like SLS, does it not like SLS, and so forth), then I must seek out a stylist that goes beyond relaxers, braiding, cutting, or coloring specialties into healthy practices.

I can't knock those that don't, because they don't have to and it may not be what they went to school for. There are some things about our hair I think we should know for ourselves to give stylists the info they need to help us with our hair, IMHO.

We shouldn't rely on them for everything. I should be able to know my hair likes cones and hates mineral oil. It isn't a stylist's job to know that. Ergo, I can't be mad if he or she uses a line with nothing but that in it and my hair breaks off. They can't know that...it's not fair for me to expect them too. Unless I have Beyonce-Hair-Team-Money to give them for them to!:lachen:

It's a similar deal with make-up artists. You may not like HER particular look that day. But if she applied it WELL, then as long as YOU MAKE IT CLEAR WHAT YOU WANT, she'll "paint you up right".

A "Stylist" focuses on style. Hair has to be healthy enough to make it "work" and they may know enough to keep it "that well", but "that well" may not be "well enough" for your to reach your hair goals.

Also, as we know...many styles popular in "our" community do not require healthy hair...or cannot be done often and hair remain healthy. Some looks in Black hair mags just worry me.
 
I dunno, I have had stylists whose hair were OK, but their clients hair looked really taken care of. I usually look at their clients' hair. I have one stylist who gels her hair down, most of the time I see her, and when her daughter comes in, her hair is reallllly healthy, long and thick. It is evident she takes care of her daughter's hair. So, I am not sure.:ohwell: But, will I go to a stylists with bald patches in her head, and visually fried ends, of course not?:nono:
 
I have to give it to my stylist...her hair is always on point! She is a DIVA! But in a good diva kinda way! :grin:

I have been with her for several years and have followed her to whatever Salon she's moved to. She ain't gettin' rid of me.
 
Kytten said:
Hair care is up to you, for the mostpart. Stylists are just that - STYLIST. Not many of them specialize in HAIR CARE but they can install a fabulous weave!

But her hair doesn't really speak to her skills anyway. This reminds me of that scene in Poetic Justice .. you know, when she didn't wanna take her hat off cause her braids had a bunch of newgrowth .. yeah, I took ya waaay back.

ANYWAYZ.. I know I'm not the only one who has noticed that my dentist's breath stinks. Same thing. I still trust him to put on my crown.
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LOL at the bold....but I will say this while my dentist's breath may not be oh so fresh you best believe that he has all of his teeth. If he can't keep his teeth in his mouth there aint jack he can do for me. LOL

Some stylists are busy, lazy or whatever and don't always look done up. What I need her to have is healthy hair, and for her to look like she cares about her appearance a little bit. At the end of the day she/he is selling a service and I need them to look the part. So what you keep your hair in a phony pony I just need to make sure that you have some hair on your head and your edges aren't a mess.

My last stylist could do some hurr (only short tho) but she never looked the part. Her weave was always crooked, her own hair when she did let it out was long and healthy. LOL
 
Well I'd think so.

My first good stylist always wore a weird auburn wig and who knows if she had any hair up under there. She was always walking around looking 'disheveled'...:lachen:
But she could do some hair (short and long)---and that's all I cared about. She was an all around beautician who specialized in black hair care.

When I was short I dealt with a stylist who specialized in short hair. Now I doubt she was about hair care cause she was always gluing tracks to them lil ghetto girls hair----and flat ironing the mess out of hair but I wasn't trying to grow hair at the time.
She could do a precision cut, taper me just right and edge me up like nobody's 'bitness'!!!
--and that's all I cared about.:grin:
Because it's hard to find a stylist that can cut very short hair just right.You can't assume they all can. I'm really particular about short hair and the way I want it to look too.
And her hair was ALWAYS hooked up. Short flipped cut hair dyed golden blonde and she was chocolate as hell!
But somehow...in a weird way, it fit. :yep:
LOL

My last two beauticians (including the one I sometimes see now) are all about hair care. They have nice heads of hair but their shortcuts.

So I'd think it would matter but then again there may be other factors goin on to explain why the beautician's hair looks as it does.
 
The worst salon I went to was owned by a woman with beautiful waist length hair. Admittedly, she was a good stylist, but her staff systematically over processed my hair and gave me bad hair cuts, so obviously she wasn't very good at passing on her knowledge.
 
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