Do We Criticize High Profile Christians too much?

SND411

A True Soldier Never Dies
Do you think at times, we as Christians tend to criticize high profile Christians such as televangalist or pastors to such a high degree we ignore our own shortcomings? I think it is important to expose "false shepherds" but should we go on and on and on about them?

What do you think?

Is there any Scripture that addresses this?
 
I agree. We Christians tend to be very religious and judgemental. Instead of being sympathic that these individuals are merely human as well yet are telling to do the righteous thing for the cause of Jesus, we expect perfection that does not exist.

However, this does not apply for them all. Some televangelist and pastors need to fall back and go away. No names mentioned but preaching false Gospel (half truth and prosparity gospel) is not cool and they led millions astray.
 
I don't think we should be so fast to judge however, if in our spirit we know that they are preaching wrong then I believe it is our duty to speak up so that others are not led wrong by certain preacher/televangelist. I for one do not look nor listen to any of them too much anymore but I don't go around just telling others not to.
 
I for one do not look nor listen to any of them too much anymore but I don't go around just telling others not to.

Why not? If you know someone who is a Christan and they believe in prosperity gospel, isn't that our job to correct them and to show them what Christ is really about. My thing is to show people the truth and then allow God to take it from there. We are one body in Christ, if one part is injured how are we going to properly function.
 
Good question! At one point in my life, I was ride or die for high profile Christians, but as I've gotten older and I've seen that many of their followers aren't receiving the same benefits.

Just because you acknowledge an apparent shortcoming in another person doesn't mean you are ignoring your own.

Sometimes, these people rub me the wrong way. They are really using their status as a platform to, as they say, bring people to Christ, but it's so confusing because many of them look like the world!!!!

What's the reason used to implement the world's standards in Christianity? 'Well, we have to reach people where they are and they will relate to us better if we do xyz.' Really? For real? Christianity has been around forever and really doesn't need your worldly-wrapped-in-Christianity ideals to prosper. To me, they turn me off and make Christianity seem like a joke.

I believe they walk a fine line. They obtain the wordly possessions, but can lose themselves in the process.

Scriptures that come to mind:
Mark 8:36, Matthew 7:21-23, any scripture dealing with humility, serving the widows and poor, how those in leadership will be judged more harshly.

Just my views!
 
You so correct. I guess what I was saying is that once I state my opinion on the matter I don't continue to discuss it as I believe that everyone has free will to make up there minds. I know some that will get into a fist fight with you if you start talking about some of the preachers on t.v. So I state my case and move on.

Why not? If you know someone who is a Christan and they believe in prosperity gospel, isn't that our job to correct them and to show them what Christ is really about. My thing is to show people the truth and then allow God to take it from there. We are one body in Christ, if one part is injured how are we going to properly function.
 
I don't think we need to judge their character, we need to judge our ownselves first. But if they are misleading people we need to say something! The bible says in that in the end many christians will be DECEIVED. So if you are following their lead, I suggest you watch and watch some more!
 
If we were doing as Jesus did and said, there would be no high-profile Christians. Why do we have any in the first place?
 
I do think "we" overly criticize them. However,

Luke 12:47-48 says

"That servant who knows his master's will and does not get ready or does not do what his master wants will be beaten with many blows. 48But the one who does not know and does things deserving punishment will be beaten with few blows. From everyone who has been given much, much will be demanded; and from the one who has been entrusted with much, much more will be asked.


So, basically these leaders have been given MUCH and when they don't do right, they WILL receive many blows, and some of those blows may come from overly judgemental people.

There is another scripture about preachers/teachers/pastors but I can't recall it right now, God bring it to my memory please and thank you. :)
 
No, not really. Leaders carry a certain responsibility for the souls of others. When there is need to expose to save a soul from ruin, then it should be done. Doing so in honesty is not necessarily doing so in hypocrisy and a spirit of anger. The truth exposes the darkness.
 
Do you think at times, we as Christians tend to criticize high profile Christians such as televangalist or pastors to such a high degree we ignore our own shortcomings? I think it is important to expose "false shepherds" but should we go on and on and on about them?

What do you think?

Is there any Scripture that addresses this?
I think people are going to do this until Jesus comes. People judged (because no matter how you slice it...it is what it is) Jesus when He was ministering to the masses here on the earth in physical form. He is our example. We must follow His example. They saw all that He did, yet....talked about Him like a dog.

Now, there was a time when Jesus did speak to the Sadducee's and Pharisee's, the leaders of that day, about how they were like "whitewashed tombs, which indeed appear beautiful outwardly, but inside are full of dead men's bones and all uncleanliness." (Matthew 23:27) Whoa! You mean Jesus said that? Yes He did, and He is still doing it today (to the leaders of today), through men and women of God who are listening to His voice and doing what He says...they are not hypocrites. The difference in Jesus' teaching is this: "For He taught them as One having authority, and not as the scribes." (Matthew 7:29) And this should be the way we are as well when we need to speak to them.

The difference you see is that Jesus spoke to them directly. He didn't tell the Disciples and all the others around Him. If He had something to say...He went to the person/persons and said what He had to say.

If we are to say we are Christians/Believers, then we must follow His example. If we know we are truly walking as Christ walked, and living as He lives...we will know when to speak and when to be quiet. We will know that we speak to the person/persons directly, not behind their back.

It has taught me that if I have a problem with someone, to go to THEM directly. If I weren't able to meet some pastors/evangelists directly, I have sent letters, sharing how I feel about something they have said or done. I didn't go to sister so and so and tell her, then she go and tell brother so and so and then what did we all accomplish?

Absolutely speak to people if you see them being led astray...there are many Hirelings in the church who walk among us to lead people away from Christ. You must be led of the Spirit though...because what you want to do is to keep the people in the kingdom...not cause them to leave by the way YOU handle it...this is very important. Remember, satan is roaming about seeking who he may devour!

What I do is pray...I pray for myself and ask God to help me be the believer He wants me to be, so that I can be a light upon a hill that cannot be hidden. I pray that people will see Christ in me, not only by my actions, but by my words as well...in ANY capacity. I pray that the Father will continue to show me MY ways, that I may change for His glory...it's all about Him getting the glory. I pray that His will will be my will and that I can hear clearly when He speaks so that I may follow His lead...HE IS THE CAPTAIN OF THE HOSTS...not I!

17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of lights, with whom can be no variation, neither shadow that is cast by turning.

18 Of his own will he brought us forth by the word of truth, that we should be a kind of firstfruits of his creatures.


19 Ye know this, my beloved brethren. But let every man be swift to hear, slow to speak, slow to wrath:


20 for the wrath of man worketh not the righteousness of God.


21 Wherefore putting away all filthiness and overflowing of wickedness, receive with meekness the implanted word, which is able to save your souls.


22 But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deluding your own selves.


23 For if any one is a hearer of the word and not a doer, he is like unto a man beholding his natural face in a mirror:


24 for he beholdeth himself, and goeth away, and straightway forgetteth what manner of man he was.


25 But he that looketh into the perfect law, the law of liberty, and so continueth, being not a hearer that forgetteth but a doer that worketh, this man shall be blessed in his doing.


26 If any man thinketh himself to be religious, while he bridleth not his tongue but deceiveth his heart, this man's religion is vain.


I wanted to share what's on MY heart about this topic and now I'm done.
:love3:
 
Nice & Wavy, I just read a scripture about following Christ's way this morning.

1 Peter 2: 21

21 To this you were called, because Christ suffered for you, leaving you an example, that you should follow in his steps.
 
Nice & Wavy, I just read a scripture about following Christ's way this morning.

1 Peter 2: 21

21 To this you were called, because Christ suffered for you, leaving you an example, that you should follow in his steps.
Confirmation, sister....:grin:
 
I'll go further. Sometimes we criticize stuff that really doesn't really have to do with the Word. I'll out myself by saying that I did have some thoughts of Bishop Long when I saw him rocking a tight muscle shirt and jherri curl toupee on the pulpit. I told my mom and auntie that I found it distracting from the message. :look:

On a more serious note I'm careful to hold my tongue when it comes to serious criticism. Why? Well, David refused to kill Saul when he had a chance because he did not want to lay a hand on God's anointed. We have to keep in mind that God anoints some of these leaders and while they may wander into foolishness, God still anointed them. Unfortunately for them this means that the punishment they will receive will be quite serious (i.e. King Saul). This is not to say that they should not be disciplined. I just try not to gossip about them. I had check myself a couple of times with Thomas Weeks 'cause I just had too much to say about that man.
 
Matthew 23:9-10 And call no man your father on the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven. Neither be you called masters (leaders): for one is your Master, even Christ.

Matthew 20:25-28 But Jesus called them to him, and said, "You know that the princes of the Gentiles exercise dominion over them, and they that are great exercise authority on them. But it shall not be so among you: but whoever will be great among you, let him be your minister (servant); And whoever will be chief among you, let him be your servant (slave): Even as the Son of Man came not to be ministered to (served), but to minister (serve), and to give His life a ransom for many."

1 John 2:20 But you have an unction (anointing) from the Holy One, and you know all things (the truth).
For those who criticise the Catholics and Orthodox, understand that in some areas, you are no better than they are. Quit putting these people on pedestals! We all have a job to do within the Body; no one is above anyone else, but Christ. He earned it!

I am so sick of these people leading others astray, talking in circle to fit the Gospel into our lives, instead of the other way around, creating their false fire, leaving people so dependent on their words and spiritually immature that God's power is vacant from the structures they have built for their own glory. If anyone gets saved, it is because of the Holy Spirit, not them.

Since March 2009, I have learned more under the guidance of the Holy Spirit than these so-called leaders teach in 20 years. Judgment is here and so few are ready...

Don't believe me; ask Him yourself. Seek Him for the truth in all things.
 
Last edited:
Matthew 10:8 "Heal the sick, raise the dead, cleanse the lepers, cast out demons. FREELY YOU RECEIVED, FREELY GIVE,


Micah 3:5 Thus says the LORD concerning the prophets who lead my people astray; When they have something to bite with their teeth,((((GOLD)))) They cry, "Peace," But against him WHO PUTS NOTHING IN THEIR MOUTHS, They declare HOLY WAR.


Isaiah 55:1 ALL you that thirst, come to the waters: and YOU THAT HAVE NO MONEY make haste, buy, and eat: come ye, buy wine and milk WITHOUT MONEY, and WITHOUT PRICE. (Douay)
 
For those who criticise the Catholics and Orthodox, understand that in some areas, you are no better than they are. Quit putting these people on pedestals! We all have a job to do within the Body; no one is above anyone else, but Christ. He earned it!

I am so sick of these people leading others astray, talking in circle to fit the Gospel into our lives, instead of the other way around, creating their false fire, leaving people so dependent on their words and spiritually immature that God's power is vacant from the structures they have built for their own glory. If anyone gets saved, it is because of the Holy Spirit, not them.

Since March 2009, I have learned more under the guidance of the Holy Spirit than these so-called leaders teach in 20 years. Judgment is here and so few are ready...

Don't believe me; ask Him yourself. Seek Him for the truth in all things.

Amen. The only man who should be on a pedestal is Jesus, the Christ - not anyone else, meaning not even pious us when we feel we are superiorally "enlightened." And thank God, personally, that I'm in the truth as where He lead me and continually speaks to me about His truth. I'm forever grateful. I guess the biggest gratefulness is that I was taught to respect others' beliefs and not consider them deceived. This, however, is not the same as saying that people/leaders cannot deceive. The truth needs to be told everywhere.
 
Last edited:
Back
Top