Different Brands, Same Company, Equal High-End/Low-End Hair Products?

[PaperClip]

I was just on L'Oreal's web site and noticed that their brand portfolio includes:

Biotherm
Garnier
Helena Rubenstein
Kerastase
Kiehl
Redken
Softsheen Carson

Could it be that the SAME product is simply being put into different bottles and different labels and sold at different prices at different stores? Could the salon brand be the same product that can be purchased at the local drug store?

What other companies have multiple products sold in different stores (high-end vs. low-end)?

 

[Aalize]

I highly doubt its exactly the same. Similar but not the same.

Another example would be Kenra. Kenra==>Elucence==>Elasta QP

 

[B_Phlyy]

I knew about L'Oreal owning all those companies and I know that Estee Lauder and Unilever are also to big companies with a lot of brands under their label. Estee Lauder mostly owns skincare and fragrances, but they do own Aveda and Bumble and bumble. Unilever owns Alberto, Suave, and I think Nexxus. I really do think that the products are the same and that the real difference between the high and the low end is the packaging and fragrance or marketing.

 

[aminata]

I would just compare ingredients. It does make you wonder. L'oreal also owns Lancome--I've read that the ingredients for the facial moisturizers are practically the same--and sometimes the l'oreal store brands are slightly better.

 

[destiny616]

it's very possible

loreal aslo owns mizani, i did notice that mizani sensitive scalp relaxer and the optimum care conditioner no lye relaxer has the exact same ingredients listed in the same order


i bet if you read and compare ingredients you will find more matches between the brands

we already know about these Kenra /Elasta qp/eluence crossovers, i bet there is more

Kenra moisture shampoo = Elasta Shampoo for relaxed hair

Kenra Color Maintance Conditioner = Elasta Intense Conditioner

Kenra Daily Provision = Elasta H Two

Elasta breakage control = elucence Extended Moisture Repair Treatment

 

[destiny616]

Kerastase Nutritive Masquintense Intense Enriching Treatment
price: $44.99 for 5.1 oz

ingredients: Aqua (Water), Cetearyl Alcohol, Behentrimonium Chloride, Glycerin, Amodimethicone, Cetyl Esters, Isopropyl Alcohol, Sodium PCA, Methylparaben, Cetrimonium Chloride, Trideceth 10, Helianthus Annuus (Helianthus Annuus Seed Oil), Chlorhexidine Dihydrochloride, Parfum (Fragrance)

Kiehl's Olive Fruit Oil Nourishing Conditioner
price: $19.00 for 6.8 oz

ingredients: Aqua (Water), Cetearyl Alcohol, Behentrimonium Chloride, Glycerin, Amodimethicone, Olea Europea/olive fruit oil, persia gratissima/Avacado Oil, Tricedith-6, 2-oleamido-1.3 octadecancdiol, lanolin, citrus limonum/ lemon peel oil, cetyl esters, methylparaben, chlorchexidine dihydrochloride, cetrimonium chloride, dimethyl tin dinecodecyl ester, parfum/fragrance

REDKEN 5th Avenue NYC Smooth Down Butter Treat Smoothing Treatment for Dry & Unruly Hair
price: $14.75 for 8.5 oz

ingredients: Water/Aqua, Cetearyl Alcohol, Behentrimonium Chloride, Glycerin, Amodimethicone, Cetyl Esters, Lanolin, Fragrance/Parfum, Methylparaben, Cetrimonium Chlordie, Trideceth-12, Mica, Titanium Dioxide/CL 77891, Chlorhexidine Dihydrochloride, PPG-5-Ceteth-20, Oleth-10, Disodium Cocoamphodipropionate, Iron Oxides/CL 77491, Lecithin, Phosphoric Acid, Macadamia Ternifolia Seed Oil/Macadamia Ternifolia, Candelilla Wax/Candelilla Cera, Phenozyethanol, Ethylparaben (D4914/1).

Sleek.look by Matrix Smoothing System Conditioner
price: $13.99 for 13.5 oz

ingredients: Water/Aqua, Cetearyl Alcohol, Behentrimonium Chloride, Glycerin, Amodimethicone, Cetyl Esters, Lanolin, Fragrance, Methylparaben, Hydrolyzed Wheat Protein, Cetrimonium Chloride, Tricontanyl PVP, Chlorhexidine Dihydrochloride, Hydrolyzed Wheat Starch, Shea Butter Fruit, Butyrospermum Parkii, Silk Amino Acids


LOREAL Natures Therapy Mega Moisture Nurturing Creme for Very Dry, Chemically Processed Hair
price: $11.75 for 16 oz

ingredients: Water, Cetearyl Alcohol, Behentrimonium Chloride, Glycerin, Amodimethicone, Cetyl Esters, Sodium PCA, Fragrance, Methylparaben, Trideceth-12, Sunflower Seed Oil, Chlorhexidine, Dihydrochloride, Cetrimonium Chloride, Yellow 5.,

LOREAL Natures Therapy Natural Relaxed Intense Moisture Deep Conditioner
price: $7.75 for 4 oz

ingredients: Water, Cetearyl Alcohol, Behentrimonium Chloride, Glycerin, Amodimethicone, Potato Starch Modified, Cetyl Esters, Isopropyl Alcohol, Parfum, Methylparabe, Trideceth-12, Hydroxypropyltrimoium, Hydrolyzed Wheat Protein, Citric Acid, Butylphenyl Methylpropional, Geranoil, Linalool, Chlorhexidine Dihydrochloride, cetrimonium Chloride, Hexyl Cinnamal, Citromellool, 2-Oleamido-1, 3-Octadecanediol, Taurine, Limonene

Loreal Vive Pro Smooth Intense Conditioner for Dry, Rebellious Thick Hair
price: $4.99 for 13 oz
ingredients: Aqua Water , Cetearyl Alcohol , Behentrimonium Chloride , Glycerin , Amodimethicone , Lanolin , Parfum Fragrance , Cetyl Esters , Methylparaben , Camelina Sativa Camelina Sativa Seed Oil , Cetrimonium Chloride , Trideceth-12 , Hexyl Cinnamal , Chlorhexidine Dihydrochloride , Butylphenyl Methylpropional , Linalool , Limonene , Benzyl Salicylate , Yellow 10 CI 47005 , Citronellol , Alpha-Isomethyl Ionone , Geraniol , Red 4 CI 14700

Loreal Vive Smooth-Intense Conditioner for Dry/Frizzy or Rebellious Hair
price: $3.49 for 13 oz

Ingredients: Water , Cetearyl Alcohol , Potato Starch Modified , Amodimethicone , Behentrimonium Chloride , Fragrance , Cetyl Esters , Lauryl PEG , PPG-18 , 18 Methicone , Methylparaben , Trideceth-12 , Camelina Sativa Seed Oil , Citric Acid , Cetrimonium Chloride , Chlorhexidine Dihydrochloride , Yellow 10 , Red 4 , BHT



the first 5 ingredients are the same, the rest of the ingredients are different but similar enough for me that i would not waste my money on kerastase

 

[LovelyLionessa]

Kerastase Nutritive Masquintense Intense Enriching Treatment
price: $44.99 for 5.1 oz

ingredients: Aqua (Water), Cetearyl Alcohol, Behentrimonium Chloride, Glycerin, Amodimethicone, Cetyl Esters, Isopropyl Alcohol, Sodium PCA, Methylparaben, Cetrimonium Chloride, Trideceth 10, Helianthus Annuus (Helianthus Annuus Seed Oil), Chlorhexidine Dihydrochloride, Parfum (Fragrance)


LOREAL Natures Therapy Mega Moisture Nurturing Creme for Very Dry, Chemically Processed Hair
price: $11.75 for 16 oz

ingredients: Water, Cetearyl Alcohol, Behentrimonium Chloride, Glycerin, Amodimethicone, Cetyl Esters, Sodium PCA, Fragrance, Methylparaben, Trideceth-12, Sunflower Seed Oil, Chlorhexidine, Dihydrochloride, Cetrimonium Chloride, Yellow 5.,

Loreal Vive Pro Smooth Intense Conditioner for Dry, Rebellious Thick Hair
price: $4.99 for 13 oz
ingredients: Aqua Water , Cetearyl Alcohol , Behentrimonium Chloride , Glycerin , Amodimethicone , Lanolin , Parfum Fragrance , Cetyl Esters , Methylparaben , Camelina Sativa Camelina Sativa Seed Oil , Cetrimonium Chloride , Trideceth-12 , Hexyl Cinnamal , Chlorhexidine Dihydrochloride , Butylphenyl Methylpropional , Linalool , Limonene , Benzyl Salicylate , Yellow 10 CI 47005 , Citronellol , Alpha-Isomethyl Ionone , Geraniol , Red 4 CI 14700


the first 5 ingredients are the same, the rest of the ingredients are different but similar enough for me that i would not waste my money on kerastase

... the plot thickens, just what are these companies up to? :scratchch

 

[longhairluva]

HMMM.. I wonder what is compared to the KeraCare brand. Anyone knows? If not I will do some research and find out what is similar to the Humecto and leav-in. These are my two favorite products.

 

[shunta]

HMMM.. I wonder what is compared to the KeraCare brand. Anyone knows? If not I will do some research and find out what is similar to the Humecto and leav-in. These are my two favorite products.

Good question...but unfortunately, I dont think there is one

 

[curlilocs]

It's all a gimmick if you ask me. Just like ethnic vs. non-ethnic products. There are only so many ways you can mix and match ingredients, evntually some formulations will overlap.

 

[Supergirl]

This is supposedly one of the beauty industry's big "secrets" according to my friend who works in the marketing dept. at Proline (owned by Alberto Culver) But of course, we at LHCF have already figured this out, so she wasn't telling me anything new.

I agree with the poster that said check the ingredients. That's the only way to know which products are really clones.

 

[mscounselor]

Thanks for the update on this....I dont feel so bad about walking pass the $20 shampoos and picking up the $3.99 ones. The only thing is they all have parabens though...:-(

 

[sylver2]

I was just on L'Oreal's web site and noticed that their brand portfolio includes:

Biotherm
Garnier
Helena Rubenstein
Kerastase
Kiehl
Redken
Softsheen Carson

Could it be that the SAME product is simply being put into different bottles and different labels and sold at different prices at different stores? Could the salon brand be the same product that can be purchased at the local drug store?

What other companies have multiple products sold in different stores (high-end vs. low-end)?

Exactly
Before I found NTM. I use to LOVE loreal vive shampoos and conditioners. Same as the Kerastase line