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Irresistible said:
hey girl

my hair grows , up, out and down
it does not form deep waves, unless product is used
it was not brushed in those pics
i can put my hair into a contained ponytail or else it is a big puff

*Taken a long time ago* 2003 (the top is held with one scrunchie with the bottom loose)

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no curls, like the 3's I see

But I don't want to hijack this thread

Was just wondering about this........
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I don't know what to tell you. But when it comes to curl size (just that fact that you mostly have curls, not coils or kinks), shine, and degree of shrinkage I don't see anything 4 about your hair...
 
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IMO 4 hair is so versatile that you can't just put it into 3 or 4 basic categories. If it's long enough you can do a ponytail (and thats for most types), and if it's long enough, it'll hang (gravity). It all depends on the head of hair.
 
Irresistible said:
When I look at pics, I really think I'm close to a 4

but people will argue me down, so whatever......

but to me its not really that far of a stretch from my head 'naked' to what I see


Taken from this album w/ more pics

I really dont have the springy loose curls that supposedly describe a 3 type, not without product (as it is clearly shown before product and after in that album)

the hair typing is confusing

I hate Andre LOL

Most of us have more than one hair type on our heads anyway

carry on ladies

beautiful pics!
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Irresistible said:
hey girl

my hair grows , up, out and down
it does not form deep waves, unless product is used
it was not brushed in those pics (just freshly rinsed and un-tampered with)
i can put my hair into a contained ponytail or else it is a big puff

*Taken a long time ago* 2003 (the top is held with one scrunchie with the bottom loose)

no curls, like the 3's I see

Was just wondering about this........
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You're definitely a 3b/c love:yep: the volume you notice is just frizziness and volume resulting from not having product in your hair, not a fro. I've seen your curls defined with product and it results in very loose waves and curls that you can easily slick back into a ponytail, these are usually not characteristic of Type 4 hair. It also seems to lay flat when saturated with product, that is characteristic of type 3 hair. With type 4 hair there is no product (short of texturizers) that will give you large loose curls without manipulation.

Dont feel bad that you're a type 3 I know on this board theres this weird culture of wanting to run away from being in the "good hair" category but really it is what it is, its just a hair identification, no biggie.

Anywhoo back to this fantastic thread!:meme:
 
BlackMasterPiece said:
You're definitely a 3b/c love:yep: the volume you notice is just frizziness and volume resulting from not having product in your hair, not a fro. I've seen your curls defined with product and it results in very loose waves and curls that you can easily slick back into a ponytail, these are usually not characteristic of Type 4 hair. It also seems to lay flat when saturated with product, that is characteristic of type 3 hair. With type 4 hair there is no product (short of texturizers) that will give you large loose curls without manipulation.

Dont feel bad that you're a type 3 I know on this board theres this weird culture of wanting to run away from being in the "good hair" category but really it is what it is, its just a hair identification, no biggie.

Anywhoo back to this fantastic thread!:meme:
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well that was a good thorough description! I have never heard type 3 hair described that way. Only with curls period!

oh and girl trust, I have had this conversation with people personally, I really do not see the curls in my hair, only poof, all the 3's I see all the time have curls without product, and/or looser curls than me

your funny, I aint running from nothing, although that was a cute assumption-really-I mean it-but this hair has been on my head too long and I been natural too long for all that:grin:

I just am just seriously saying I dont have springy spiral-ly bouncy curly nothing, and cant wear my hair loose. And that's what ALL the 3's I SEE Seem to have and/or do.

But if your description is what a 3 is, then that's the first time I have heard it concerning what it's expected to do w/product and not without
 
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BlackMasterPiece said:
It also seems to lay flat when saturated with product, that is characteristic of type 3 hair. With type 4 hair there is no product (short of texturizers) that will give you large loose curls without manipulation.
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ohhhhhh i see this is the best short and sweet description i have heard yet my natural hair no product looks like 4a but recently i had a friend put gel in it for the first time ever and i had waves and curls and my hair was able to lay flat my natural hair always looked frizzy to me hmmmmm what a fountain of knowledge you are BMP:yep:
 
Irresistible said:
well that was a good thorough description! I have never heard type 3 hair described that way. Only with curls period!
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Thanks love!:love2:

oh and girl trust, I have had this conversation with people personally, I really do not see the curls in my hair, only poof, all the 3's I see all the time have curls without product, or looser curls than me

your funny, I aint running from nothing, although that was a cute assumption-really-I mean it-but this hair has been on my head too long and I been natural too long for all that:grin:
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lmfaoo I feel you:yep:

I just am just seriously saying I dont have springy spiral-ly bouncy curly nothing, and cant wear my hair loose. And that's what ALL the 3's I SEE Seem to have and/or do.

But if your description is what a 3 is, then thats the first time I have heard it concerning what its expected to do w/product and not without
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Yaaaay one of the best compliments I can get is that I articulated something well....just brings me joy:infatuated: lol

coconut said:
ohhhhhh i see this is the best short and sweet description i have heard yet my natural hair no product looks like 4a but recently i had a friend put gel in it for the first time ever and i had waves and curls and my hair was able to lay flat my natural hair always looked frizzy to me hmmmmm what a fountain of knowledge you are BMP:yep:
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:blush3:thanx coconut!! You ladies of LHCF are sooo encouraging:infatuated:
 
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Loving all the pic as for hair typing so confusing to me let's just rename this thread to BIG BODACIOUS HAIR II and be happy lol
 
Iris, I always thought your hair is 3c... and gorgeous!

There are similarities between 3c and 4a a lot of the time. Kinkier textured 3c can resemble type 4a hair and silkier textured 4a hair can resemble 3c.

but your coils are bigger than a type 4. :yep:

Who knows? Maybe you do have some 4a hiding in there too. I have a few 3c's hiding in my hair and no one would even know unless they got all up in my head. lol but I'm by far a type 4 primarily.




I wanted to add this pic to the thread. One of my fave pics of my hair to date :)

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BlackMasterPiece said:
You're definitely a 3b/c love:yep: the volume you notice is just frizziness and volume resulting from not having product in your hair, not a fro. I've seen your curls defined with product and it results in very loose waves and curls that you can easily slick back into a ponytail, these are usually not characteristic of Type 4 hair. It also seems to lay flat when saturated with product, that is characteristic of type 3 hair. With type 4 hair there is no product (short of texturizers) that will give you large loose curls without manipulation.

Dont feel bad that you're a type 3 I know on this board theres this weird culture of wanting to run away from being in the "good hair" category but really it is what it is, its just a hair identification, no biggie.

Anywhoo back to this fantastic thread!:meme:
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I disagree. You should see my type 4 hair laid w/ product. Gel is a God sent product. lol
 
coconut said:
ohhhhhh i see this is the best short and sweet description i have heard yet my natural hair no product looks like 4a but recently i had a friend put gel in it for the first time ever and i had waves and curls and my hair was able to lay flat my natural hair always looked frizzy to me hmmmmm what a fountain of knowledge you are BMP:yep:
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yeah that's basically how I thought we typed our hair w/out product not with

interesting

oh and BMP, I HAVE ALWAYS CLAIMED 3 but only because that's what other's told me , but with no real explanation, I have been wondering about this for years, hence why I even did that album years ago, I wanted people to see how my hair behaves untouched with product or anything, not just 'after product' but it always confused me....I finally in this thread just spoke up and asked.....cause its soooo confusing to me

people look at my hair after its all conditioned/dressed/contained and think it just came that way-it doesn't. While other 3's I see can wear their hair loose and have curls I just can't/don't

OP I apologize for asking this question in this thread if it bothered you that I did so. I really really thought twice about it ......I did not want to take away from the purpose of the thread
 
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BeetleBug said:
I disagree. You should see my type 4 hair laid w/ product. Gel is a God sent product. lol
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I'd love to see your hair!:love2: There is such a thing as type 4a silky, that can slick down with gel.
The perfect example of this is ROBOTxcore's Professor in her thread
My Professor's Hair a Love Story <-- I linked the page with pix. However most type 4s have type 4 non-silky with a tendency to be dry, that could never be shingled into laying down or be slicked back with gel.

However if you have curls or large waves, just from applying product, that people can see from a foot away from you, chances are, you're a type 3.
 
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Neith said:
Iris, I always thought your hair is 3c... and gorgeous!

There are similarities between 3c and 4a a lot of the time. Kinkier textured 3c can resemble type 4a hair and silkier textured 4a hair can resemble 3c.

but your coils are bigger than a type 4. :yep:

Who knows? Maybe you do have some 4a hiding in there too. I have a few 3c's hiding in my hair and no one would even know unless they got all up in my head. lol but I'm by far a type 4 primarily.




I wanted to add this pic to the thread. One of my fave pics of my hair to date :)

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absolutely beautiful and lush!
 
Neith said:
Iris, I always thought your hair is 3c... and gorgeous!

There are similarities between 3c and 4a a lot of the time. Kinkier textured 3c can resemble type 4a hair and silkier textured 4a hair can resemble 3c.

but your coils are bigger than a type 4. :yep:

Who knows? Maybe you do have some 4a hiding in there too. I have a few 3c's hiding in my hair and no one would even know unless they got all up in my head. lol but I'm by far a type 4 primarily.



I wanted to add this pic to the thread. One of my fave pics of my hair to date :)

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Neith!!! Now WHAT you said makes perfect sense. Of why my hair does not behave like the other 3's I see

Finally an answer!

This has bugged me for sooo long! :lachen:

you got more coils than me chile! :lachen:

geesh that pic is gorgeous!
 
^^^:thud: that woman has some STUNNING features!:infatuated:

I'm REALLY feelin the ladies with the ceasars in this thread, it just sets you apart and makes you sooooo chic:cool2:
 
BlackMasterPiece said:
You're definitely a 3b/c love:yep: the volume you notice is just frizziness and volume resulting from not having product in your hair, not a fro. I've seen your curls defined with product and it results in very loose waves and curls that you can easily slick back into a ponytail, these are usually not characteristic of Type 4 hair. It also seems to lay flat when saturated with product, that is characteristic of type 3 hair. With type 4 hair there is no product (short of texturizers) that will give you large loose curls without manipulation.

Dont feel bad that you're a type 3 I know on this board theres this weird culture of wanting to run away from being in the "good hair" category but really it is what it is, its just a hair identification, no biggie.

Anywhoo back to this fantastic thread!:meme:
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Good description, I know some 2/3s who still have to use product to get their curls to define and have the frizzy pouffy halo look without product. I thought frizz and pouffyness was automatically type 4 too, so I guess I'm still confused about my hair too :lol:
 
BlackMasterPiece said:
I'd love to see your hair!:love2: There is such a thing as type 4a silky, that can slick down with gel.
The perfect example of this is ROBOTxcore's Professor in her thread
My Professor's Hair a Love Story <-- I linked the page with pix. However most type 4s have type 4 non-silky with a tendency to be dry, that could never be shingled into laying down or be slicked back with gel.

However if you have curls or large waves, just from applying product, that people can see from a foot away from you, chances are, you're a type 3.
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I love the professor's hair. Her hair is gorgeous. I posted one of my pics on the first page of this thread and I posted some on the last page in this thread. http://www.longhaircareforum.com/showthread.php?t=236469&page=7
 
BlackMasterPiece said:
I'd love to see your hair!:love2: There is such a thing as type 4a silky, that can slick down with gel.
The perfect example of this is ROBOTxcore's Professor in her thread
My Professor's Hair a Love Story <-- I linked the page with pix. However most type 4s have type 4 non-silky with a tendency to be dry, that could never be shingled into laying down or be slicked back with gel.

However if you have curls or large waves, just from applying product, that people can see from a foot away from you, chances are, you're a type 3.
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Not to keep this going or anything but I don't think it's accurate to say that type 4 hair can't be slicked down with gel or that type 4 hair doesn't form waves with gel.

I am a type 4. Actually, I consider myself to be a 4b and in my avatar and siggy my hair is slicked down with gel. I can also lay my hair down with just water and get the same result. BTW, my hair is not silky either.
 
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