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Can heat trained hair be healthy hair?

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Jenko

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As I'm still in a mid fro (vaguely shoulder length when stretched), I've come to realized that when my hair gets to my first goal of bar strap (whenever that'll be) I'd like to keep my hair straightened, however I'd rather not go the chemical route as when all is said is done, that seems to be more work than I'm willing to deal with. So those who heat train, can you keep your hair as healthy as natural or relaxed hair? Thanks!
 
For me, there is no heat training my hair. It goes straight to heat damaged. I have seen other women on this forum who have 'heat trained hair,' and from what I can tell, it makes their hair loose-curl or like 3c-ish, something like that. I don't really understand heat training in that context because my hair doesn't do it. My heat damaged hair is stick straight which I doubt could somehow be good for its health.
 
yes it can but i dont think it will be at its most optimal health justs like any other permanent hair alteration like relaxing,color, japanese thermal reconstruction,perms etc...
 
Thanks for asking this. I have been wondering the same them but was afraid to ask to question.

Jenko said:
As I'm still in a mid fro (vaguely shoulder length when stretched), I've come to realized that when my hair gets to my first goal of bar strap (whenever that'll be) I'd like to keep my hair straightened, however I'd rather not go the chemical route as when all is said is done, that seems to be more work than I'm willing to deal with. So those who heat train, can you keep your hair as healthy as natural or relaxed hair? Thanks!
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mischka said:
For me, there is no heat training my hair. It goes straight to heat damaged. I have seen other women on this forum who have 'heat trained hair,' and from what I can tell, it makes their hair loose-curl or like 3c-ish, something like that. I don't really understand heat training in that context because my hair doesn't do it. My heat damaged hair is stick straight which I doubt could somehow be good for its health.
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ITA, IMHO, FOR ME AND MY HAIR, heat training = heat damage, :perplexedhence your hair will respond differently ( ie. looser texture, straight texture, breakage ect.) To me, this isn't healthy at all.:sad:
 
Yes. Heat can loosen texture, just like relaxers loosen texture. If you want to purposely loosen your texture--you can use either heat (gradually) or relax. Either way can be done with healthy results.

Me personally, if I were going to try to loosen my texture--I would try to do it with heat.
 
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I do hope this thread stays on course :)


I believe heat trained hair can be healthy. The person needs to be very aware of their hair, how much heat it can handle and take great precautions to deep condition and keep on top of the protein/moisture treatments.
 
PrissyPJ said:
Thanks for asking this. I have been wondering the same them but was afraid to ask to question.
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Me too...!?!?! :look: I've always wondered:

  • Heat-trained hair versus relaxed; which is healthy?
  • Does heat trained hair need to be cut?
  • Is relaxed hair healthy? :blush:
 
hair that cannot and wont revert back to its original curl pattern b/c of heat is usually associated with heat damage. So imo damaged cannot = healthy

I think heat train is a "special name" for heat damaged :rolleyes:

trust me that heat trained/damaged crap that i had in the front of my head is far from healthy
 
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Here's my 2 cents. Hair is dead. How something can be "healthy" and dead, I'll never know.

I prefer the term "in good condition"

...But for the sake of this thread, I'll use "healthy". I think that heat trained hair can be healthy, just as relaxed hair can be. Also, I don't believe that all natural hair is healthy.

To me, if your hair is consistantly growing & strong with minimal breakage & split ends.... It is "healthy"
 
Op, honestly I think by the end of this thread you will still be left with the same question! lol From what I've learned on the board you have some people who feel that heat training can still leave you with a healthy head of hair and you have those who feel that heat training equals damage. If you are looking to wear your hair straight most of the time maybe heat trainging will work for you and you probably won't mind having some permenantly straight strands. Just remember heat protectant is your friend.
 
Jenko said:
As I'm still in a mid fro (vaguely shoulder length when stretched), I've come to realized that when my hair gets to my first goal of bar strap (whenever that'll be) I'd like to keep my hair straightened, however I'd rather not go the chemical route as when all is said is done, that seems to be more work than I'm willing to deal with. So those who heat train, can you keep your hair as healthy as natural or relaxed hair? Thanks!
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Yes heat trained hair can be as "healthy" as relaxed hair and it can also be as damaged as damaged relaxed hair. It all depends on how well you take care of it and how much your hair can take. Check out http://www.youtube.com/user/Brittanynic16
 
SimplyBlessed said:
hair that cannot and wont revert back to its original curl pattern b/c of heat is usually associated with heat damage. So imo damaged cannot = healthy

I think heat train is a "special name" for heat damaged :rolleyes:

trust me that heat trained/damaged crap that i had in the front of my head is far from healthy
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So I'm assuming you think relaxed hair is damaged hair as well?
 
Well I just found out that my cousin heat trained her 3 DD's hair and I had no idea. I thought she relaxed their hair. All 3 of them has heads full of healthy non- damaged/breaking off hair. Their hair holds spiral curls and all WELL and I was shocked to find out that all she does is flat iron it frequently so my vote is yeah. Its possible.
 
Yes I think it can be. But as someone else said I don't think it will be at its OPTIMAL level of health. And of course everyone's hair is different and can take different amounts/frequency of heat. You just have to find ur tolerance level.

The first year of my transition I had my hair flat ironed/blow dried weekly at the salon along w/steam treatments. My hair was growing and generally looked pretty nice but over time I began to notice it starting to feel dry and limp, so I cut waaaay back on heat and started doing my own hair and protective styling.

As I began to get to know and examine my natural hair, I can literally look down my hair strands and see/feel the difference in the textures and the health. The hair that has had the least amount of heat on it is much healthier, it is stronger and accepts/retains moisture better.

Also don't understand why people have to be "scared" to ask these questions and it has to always be an uproar/intense debate. Jeez, its not that serious, really.
 
It depends on what your definition of healthy is. To some people, hair that will not revert is not healthy, to some, the hair has to be dry and/or splitting to be damaged. It's very subjective.
 
OP, you're going to get a million different answers. If you want to wear your hair straight without chemicals, do it. You can still retain length. You will just need to find the balance your hair needs to prevent dryness and breakage. I think once we stop trying to put ourselves in these boxes of what we can and can't do based on our hair status, this thing will be a lot easier.
 
from what i have seen, heat training is controlled heat damage. I don't think it's as healthy as non heat trained hair but not completely damaged at the same time.
 
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OP, you're going to get a million different answers. If you want to wear your hair straight without chemicals, do it. You can still retain length. You will just need to find the balance your hair needs to prevent dryness and breakage.I think once we stop trying to put ourselves in these boxes of what we can and can't do based on our hair status, this thing will be a lot easier.
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That there. :yep:
 
NikStar said:
So I'm assuming you think relaxed hair is damaged hair as well?
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Not at all...it can be healthy..there was a chemical added to make the hair straight when referring to relaxed hair...



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My question is....

When heat training is it to get the hair straighter faster/easier when straightening?

Or is it to change the natural curl pattern?

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SimplyBlessed said:
My question is....

When heat training is it to get the hair straighter faster/easier when straightening?

Or is it to change the natural curl pattern?

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I don't think you can have one without the other. But, from what I see, it's moreso the first reason from a lot of people.
 
Just using history and Rudy Huxtable as a guide.... Yes!

I noticed that some girls on the forum freak out about heat and hair, but it's not that big of a deal.

Deep condition, be gentle and be careful. It's really that simple.

Note: I have 4b/4a hair and it's unlikely that I will ever have these infamous stick straight sections. My hair just does not work that way. ...and I flat iron 4-8 times a year. I get less breakage when it's out and before braiding if I flat iron first. The strands are healthy; I don't get splits, rips, or single strand knots; and I barely manipulate my hair. Much healthier than my no-heat-due-to-fear days.
 
I'm sorry, I can't sit still long enough to watch the whole yt video. What is heat trained exactly? Does that mean your hair will be straight or straighter after consistent heat use?

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