Nice Lady
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Disheartening is one my favorite words. One of the things that could be called disheartening, impediment or an embarassment to the Body of Christ is: Apostles and prophets till in “a unity of the faith.”
Of True
Ephesians 4:11-14
And he gave some apostles; and some prophets: and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; for the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ; Till we all come in a unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of Christ. That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about by every wind of doctrine. And by the slight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive.
Of False
Matthew 12:30
He that is not with me is against me; he that gathered not with me, scattereth abroad.
(Also Ezekial 34
Compare Mark 9:38-41
But Jesus said, forbid him not: for there is no man which shall do a miracle in my name that can lightly speak evil of me. For he that is not against us is on our part.
Note: The difference in the passages has to do with context. The Matthew text describes formal “gathering” by chosen disciples, called to preach and baptize. The Mark text describes how those disciples should accept the performance good works by anyone, even one not called and ordained as part of the formal gathering.
Of True
Ephesians 4:11-14
And he gave some apostles; and some prophets: and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; for the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ; Till we all come in a unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of Christ. That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about by every wind of doctrine. And by the slight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive.
Of False
Matthew 12:30
He that is not with me is against me; he that gathered not with me, scattereth abroad.
(Also Ezekial 34
Compare Mark 9:38-41
But Jesus said, forbid him not: for there is no man which shall do a miracle in my name that can lightly speak evil of me. For he that is not against us is on our part.
Note: The difference in the passages has to do with context. The Matthew text describes formal “gathering” by chosen disciples, called to preach and baptize. The Mark text describes how those disciples should accept the performance good works by anyone, even one not called and ordained as part of the formal gathering.