Any other Religions on here

[Almaz]

I am Jewish. Born and raised so are my parents and their parents. I had a problem a while back this Christian lady was telling me that I was going to go the H-ll because I did not accept the Lord and Jesus Christ as my Saviour. Don't have that concept. I asked her WHY don't you go and proslytise to the Muslim lady over there? She did not give me a proper answer. Although I respect her beliefs I find it highly in apporpriate and unprofessional to try to convert people at the Job. In my view convert them PERIOD.

Then she was telliing another woman because she was Catholic that she was doomed also. I am like WHAT have you no Idea that the form of Chrisitanity that you is only about a couple of hundred years old if that. I asked her did she know about Martin Luther and his beef with the Catholic Church? Do you know the history of the Early Church. She did not believe me that Jesus was a Jew. Honestly she did not believe. I am like the person that you pray too was a Jew. Born a Jew and died a Jew. Christianity came later. When I took out a Torah and showed her she said it was DEVILS language. I was like there is no hope here for communication and proper dialouge so I just let it go and kindly asked her to refrain from such kind of behaviour and please don't do it at work.

She did not stop so I had to write her up because this behaviour was offendiing to other people. I mean she was even talking to the Armenian, Assyrian, Syrian and Ethiopian Orthodox Christians at work whose people were worshipping Christ for thousands of Years and came from the Area that Jesus came from. I think that THEY would have a better take on Chrisitianity I mean the Assyrian/Chaldean Churches and people STILL speak Aramaic which is the language that Jesus spoke. She did not know this. So I brought her a Aramaic/English bible. I too speak Aramaic I was showing her the Lords Prayer. She was like oh okay. I was like what did you think Jesus spoke. She was like I don't know.

The I asked her why aren't there any windows at the Kingdom Halls? She could not answer that either. I was like well if you are trying to get people to follow your faith then you should be asute enough to answer any question that one poses to you.

Again I found it unprofessional to try to convert people at work?

What do you ladies think

 

[ShaniKeys]

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[Raspberry]

Yes, your co-worker was unprofessional to push her beliefs on you like that at work.

It would be different if you were friends and you asked her opinion but obviously not..

As for her specific beliefs I can't answer for her - there are thousands of various Christian denominations and sects and I don't agree with what she told you..

 

[Almaz]

I was Asking a Question in a Christian format to get a CHRISTIAN point of view. That is why I posted here

Thanks

 

[ShaniKeys]

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[Almaz]

Exactly I respect everyone for what they believe and how they worship but I she was not a friend. And this was the type of lady that would stab you in the back but hide behind the Bible. She is a trip. Jews don't convert people so I don't have this concept. But I am always interested in Learning about different faiths and peoples. Growing up in Israel. I was exposed to tons of forms of Christianity. When I was in the Army I met so many nice people from all denominations that were going to the Sea of Gallile (Lake Kinneret in Hebrew) But again being an Israeli Jew I walked and lived near all the sites of Jesus and even gave tours for groups in the summers when I was off from school. So Early Church History is a strong point for me. Because I enjoy the history and the knowledge and plus you cannot get a job being a tour guide at Christian sites in the Holy Land if you don't know the history.

 

[divya]

First, welcome!

Second, that lady sounds off. Her behavior is unprofessional. However, a number of people who profess Christianity do not know or understand the history of Christianity unfortunately. It is a bit surprising that she didn't know that Jesus was a Jew or know that He spoke Aramaic.

I am a Christian and don't believe one thing she told you. Pray for her.

 

[ShaniKeys]

Growing up in Israel.

OT: So you've lived in both Ethiopia and Israel?

 

[Almaz]

I have been on here awhile I KNOW what the deal is thank you Shanikeys ;-)

 

[Almaz]

Yes I have lived all over the world. And you would be suprised that a lot of people can't wrap their heads around Jesus being a Jew and that he spoke Aramaic. You would be really suprised.

I pray for all mankind

 

[ShaniKeys]

I have been on here awhile I KNOW what the deal is thank you Shanikeys ;-)

You're welcome.

 

[Raspberry]

I was Asking a Question in a Christian format to get a CHRISTIAN point of view. That is why I posted here

Thanks

Also, I do agree that a lot of professed Christians know too little about the history of the early church and the Jewish faith. Judaism is indeed the foundation for the gospel and is essential to know in order to understand the significance of Christ's ministry and his sacrifice... The New Testament is considered to the fulfillment or end result of Old Testament prophecy and revelation.

Doctrinal scholarship has often been left up to ministers in the church but that isn't actually biblical. In fact, Christians are exhorted throughout scripture to seek out the knowledge of God and continue learning.. and to portray this knowledge in all humility, for example:

1 Peter 3:14-16
Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have. But do this with gentleness and respect, 16keeping a clear conscience, so that those who speak maliciously against your good behavior in Christ may be ashamed of their slander.

 

[Almaz]

You are from Angola Shanikeys? A former Portugese colony

 

[ShaniKeys]

Yes I have lived all over the world. And you would be suprised that a lot of people can't wrap their heads around Jesus being a Jew and that he spoke Aramaic. You would be really suprised.

I pray for all mankind

That's cool.

 

[ShaniKeys]

You are from Angola Shanikeys? A former Portugese colony

Yes I am from Angola.

 

[Almaz]

Well it is unfortunate that some people are so set in their ways and they have that my way or the highway attitudes about things and no matter what you do, they will never understand. So I just let it go.

 

[divya]

Yes I have lived all over the world. And you would be suprised that a lot of people can't wrap their heads around Jesus being a Jew and that he spoke Aramaic. You would be really suprised.

I pray for all mankind

That's a shame because it is right there in the Scriptures. Well, at least you took the high road on this issue.

 

[Almaz]

I just can't wrap MY head around people who dont' believe what you believe that you are going to hell. I mean is that nice? There is truth to every religion and there are different experiences and different viewpoints but to damn and doom people to hell is kind of crazy to me and none of my Christian friends would never do that. But since I have moved to the states I have had more people telling me that I am going to hell. Black and White. I mean I spent the majority of my early life IN THE HOLY LAND and the Christians that live there for Thousands of years and who really seem to got it together never EVER said that to me. So I was suprised and perplexed to say the least when Holy Rollers approach me in this manner. Because I am like how can you say such things and always looking for people to damn and doom?

 

[Almaz]

Well I did not know what other road to take. Believe me Years ago I would have snapped off on her and told her what. But all I can do now is look at her and people like her with compassion. Because again there are truths to every religion and that is her truth and she is entitled to her beliefs.

 

[msa]

.......ok then.................

 

[kayte]

Questions about Christianity in a positive manner are allowed - please re-read sticky thread for clarification

 

[discobiscuits]

Hi Almaz!

I do not see your posts as combative. I see that Shani light-weight condemned your OP (possibly b/c of the title) and at first it appeared that you two were going to get into it but I see that yes, things are civil & cool in this thread (well, I thought - I see more posts since I tried the search function).

It is apparent that your entire OP is of a Christian nature and a Christian topic and hence, posted in the correct forum. Please note that until I read your post, I too rolled my eyes and thought that your post should have been in off topic. After reading your OP, I see that you are coming to the Christians on this board about another "Christian" that behaved unprofessionally, un-Christlike and was just plain ignorant about her faith and her denomination.

It is clear that you came for "fellowship" and to discuss things that pertain to Christianity, to light-weight vent about an experience that you had, and to seek feedback from the Christian ladies on this forum.

Almaz, you showed her the truth and she turned a blind eye. The little bit you posted about the bible and Jesus is more than some of the Christian members here know (based on the threads that I've read and have participated in).

My two cents, if she continues to be unprofessional and create a hostile work environment, she needs to be dealt with. If she is willing to listen, continue to teach her about the bible and Jesus.

As for going to hell, yes that is a very common thing that I too hear from lay people and clergy in all Christian denominations. Basically, if one does not believe as they do then they will go to hell. Now, I would hate for someone to be that rude to tell me that but according to what I believe, if one does not believe that Jesus is Lord, Savior and Messiah, then they will be separated from God for eternity and cast in the lake of fire. The last time I checked, regardless of denomination, if you do believe in/on Jesus who so ever (you so ever) will be saved. God/Jesus is non-denominational and pro-choice.

Finally, if your intent of this thread is genuine, we welcome a dialogue with you. If it turns out that your intent is not genuine, you will be well advised to have those discussions outside of the CFF.

To answer your question in the title/heading of this thread, yes there are tons of members here of different religions. I tried a search and came up empty but there are Hebrews, Jews, Muslimahs, Pagans everything belief here on this board.

 

[chicacanella]

I am Jewish. Born and raised so are my parents and their parents. I had a problem a while back this Christian lady was telling me that I was going to go the H-ll because I did not accept the Lord and Jesus Christ as my Saviour. Don't have that concept. I asked her WHY don't you go and proslytise to the Muslim lady over there? She did not give me a proper answer. Although I respect her beliefs I find it highly in apporpriate and unprofessional to try to convert people at the Job. In my view convert them PERIOD.

Then she was telliing another woman because she was Catholic that she was doomed also. I am like WHAT have you no Idea that the form of Chrisitanity that you is only about a couple of hundred years old if that. I asked her did she know about Martin Luther and his beef with the Catholic Church? Do you know the history of the Early Church. She did not believe me that Jesus was a Jew. Honestly she did not believe. I am like the person that you pray too was a Jew. Born a Jew and died a Jew. Christianity came later. When I took out a Torah and showed her she said it was DEVILS language. I was like there is no hope here for communication and proper dialouge so I just let it go and kindly asked her to refrain from such kind of behaviour and please don't do it at work.

She did not stop so I had to write her up because this behaviour was offendiing to other people. I mean she was even talking to the Armenian, Assyrian, Syrian and Ethiopian Orthodox Christians at work whose people were worshipping Christ for thousands of Years and came from the Area that Jesus came from. I think that THEY would have a better take on Chrisitianity I mean the Assyrian/Chaldean Churches and people STILL speak Aramaic which is the language that Jesus spoke. She did not know this. So I brought her a Aramaic/English bible. I too speak Aramaic I was showing her the Lords Prayer. She was like oh okay. I was like what did you think Jesus spoke. She was like I don't know.

The I asked her why aren't there any windows at the Kingdom Halls? She could not answer that either. I was like well if you are trying to get people to follow your faith then you should be asute enough to answer any question that one poses to you.

Again I found it unprofessional to try to convert people at work?

What do you ladies think

She was not trying to convert you...she can't do that. Only your faith in believing that Jesus is the son of God who came down in the flesh, dies for your sin and God the father rose Him again where He now sits reigning in power at the right hand of can do that.

I don't agree that Jesus Christ is a person she prays to but more like God himself who was manifested in the flesh on this earth, who as you already know died a brutal death for the sins of mankind, was raised again by God the father and now sits at His right hand in power over all creation.

I also do not agree that you need to know every single detail about history in order to tell someone about Jesus Christ. Knowing about every aspect of history is not what saved me but more like a powerful thing called faith through God's grace.

To your last statement: Again, I don't believe in a person converting another person. I believe the person can introduce information to another person but convert them...no. It's up to the free will of the individual to have faith and believe, then by the blood of Jesus Christ you are a new creature.

Finally, it seems as if the point of your post was to speak about your experience and this woman but instead of using a topic like, "Highly offended by Woman at Work," "Would like opinion of other Christians," you titiled your thread: Any Other Religions on Here." That in itself had nothing to do with your post and I am trying to be combative but I expected something much different than what I read. If the title had something to do with your post, please do explain because I am trying to understand what "Any other Religions on here," has to do with the Chrsitianity forum when you really didn't speak about that in your post.

 

[Almaz]

No again I am looking at this with compassion and I am trying to get a Christian viewpoint. I said on my other posts that I have many Christian friends and we all love and respect each other. My posts are in no way combative and I am not trying to come across that way I am wanting to learn from a Christian point of view. It is all done in the name of communication and understanding other person's point of view. Not to argue or be combative. I would never in a million years deride a Christian or anyone else and if someone thinks that I am well then I think they got it all wrong I was just trying to get some understanding here. As far as being a troll no I am not. I have been on here since last year but I dont' post as much but I read almost everything. I have been working and travelling a lot this year so I don't get a chance to get on here as much as I would like too. Now that I am back home I just wanted to get a Christian point of view on certain things it was in no way meant to deride and in no way meant with malice.

Thank you

 

[Almaz]

I just wanted to know if other people Christians and other religions had to deal with such kinds of people and how did they deal with it. Thats all.

Sorry if I offended anyone that was not my intent.

 

[divya]

I just can't wrap MY head around people who dont' believe what you believe that you are going to hell. I mean is that nice? There is truth to every religion and there are different experiences and different viewpoints but to damn and doom people to hell is kind of crazy to me and none of my Christian friends would never do that. But since I have moved to the states I have had more people telling me that I am going to hell. Black and White. I mean I spent the majority of my early life IN THE HOLY LAND and the Christians that live there for Thousands of years and who really seem to got it together never EVER said that to me. So I was suprised and perplexed to say the least when Holy Rollers approach me in this manner. Because I am like how can you say such things and always looking for people to damn and doom?

Well, there are those Christians who believe that if you are not Christian then you are hellbound - a significant number in the U.S. Others believe that we are all expected to live by the light that we have and God will judge us individually. I highly disagree with the "hellbound" people, and those who misunderstand witnessing. Hopefully this woman will learn that her approach is not the best. The biggest way to witness is in the way we live our own lives and how we treat others.

 

[Almaz]

Thank you that is why I wanted to get a Chrisitian Viewpoint. As you said that there are a significant number of this people in the United States. Glad to know this. Because again I have lived all over the world and I have only seen this type of behaviour here for the most part and I do appreciate for you clarifing that for me. How is one supposed to know if they don't ask?. Why would one seem combative if they are trying to get some valid questions answered. Again there was not an iota of mal content in my post.

Thank you for clarifing that for me

 

[Almaz]

Msa may I kindly ask how is my post combative when I am just asking a valid question and looking for a view point from people from your faith. You don't know me to even assume such things and again I would never deride anyone no matter what they are. If this person was a Muslim and doing this I would ask other muslims. I am just trying to get an understanding. Thats all.

 

[Lucky's Mom]

I just wanted to know if other people Christians and other religions had to deal with such kinds of people and how did they deal with it. Thats all.

Sorry if I offended anyone that was not my intent.

Hi Almaz!!!!

You did not offend me...

I think that Judaism - the foundation of our faith, has been so misunderstood, as well as Jesus' ministry. Anti-semitism has been around as long as human history has been around.

Jesus was a rabbi, after all....

I think that we have to keep in mind that God told us - in the old testament ( torah ) that this people - God's people - would be persecuted and looked at funny - mainly because most ancient cultures were polytheistic.

the idea of One God - was - completely out of the norm.. for most of the known world.

Having a better understanding of the lifestyle, and traditons of the culture - gives more power to the scriptures and our relationship with God.

Sadly - due to the eurocentic and americanized 'separation' of christianity.....
Most people have ZERO knowledge....

so pray for the lady......

One more note: conversion is bibilical.

Matthew 28:18 -20
18Then Jesus came to them and said, "All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. 19Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in[a] the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age."

Nope - no one should beating you over the head.....nevertheless - it is biblical.

I hope you understand this christian's perspective!!!

 

[Lucky's Mom]

Almaz????? - Are you still out there????