Can we please have a moratorium on Natural/Relaxed threads?

[LisaLisa1908]

Ahhh, the board. In my five years of lurking and posting, I've seen it all.

First it was bunning and moisture 24/7/365.
Then MN.
Then Surge.
Then Megatek and Ovation.
Then the NO CONES, EVAAAAAAH movement.
Then henna and Indian oils.
Now it's BKT.
And still bunning and moisture 24/7/365 but protein too.

I love this place. It's like Michigan weather; if you don't like it, wait five minutes and it'll change, sure enough.

 

[Oasis]

Some of y'all need to keep Nappturality's name out of y'alls mouth. I ain't saying, I'm just saying.

 

[Kay.Dee]

Neither is going into a natural inspiration thread talking about how some natural heads look a HAM. That's what the OP did, which is why I find this thread ironic.

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[Nonie]

I haven't sensed any animosity or discontent between the relaxed heads and natural heads or any bashing of one by the other. I think I have an aversion to tense discussions coz I seem to miss the negativity, which is all well and good by me.

 

[SmartyPants]

Neither is going into a natural inspiration thread talking about how some natural heads look a HAM. That's what the OP did, which is why I find this thread ironic.

Actually, I didn't think that was a natural inspiration thread until I was halfway through the pictures. The thread title left one with the impression that it was a response to the Chris Rock movie which is being criticized by naturals and relaxed heads alike.

Quite frankly some of those pictures (for example: the hot pink dreadlocks) were a H.A.M. The HAMness had nothing to do with their hair being natural.

 

[UGQueen]

*goes to look up moratorium*


I've noticed some people kinda on edge. It's not just the naturals starting up though. It'd be nice if we all chilled out a bit I suppose.

to everybody from Neith
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glad i wasnt the only one

 

[SmartyPants]

Just one more example.... the term "creamy crack" is used on boards like the one that "shall not be named" specifically to be hostile toward those who choose to relax. It really shouldn't be used on a board that ostensibly allows us to embrace all styles. It's deliberately insulting and provocative!

 

[10WordzOrLess]

And I love the BC in your avatar (I'm assuming that's you). When I cut my hair like that (yes I've been natural as an adult) I looked like I had a HUGE melon attach to my neck.

Yes Ma'am that is ME in all my 5 head gloraaay! Thanx I have yet to post my progress, I'm waiting for my 6 month milestone.



OMG!!!!

I felt the same way! Let's pour a little Jojoba oil out for our Melon-Neck phase!!

 

[msa]

Just one more example.... the term "creamy crack" is used on boards like the one that "shall not be named" specifically to be hostile toward those who choose to relax. It really shouldn't be used on a board that ostensibly allows us to embrace all styles. It's deliberately insulting and provocative!

I for one find offense in the term "creamy crack". But just like the word nappy, it depends on the person, some naturals love, some hate it. Many many relaxed heads on this very board use the term "creamy crack", while others can't stand it.

 

[Crackers Phinn]

Some of y'all need to keep Nappturality's name out of y'alls mouth. I ain't saying, I'm just saying.

or what?

If I stand in front of my mirror at midnight and say Nappturality 3 times will my relaxer revert?

I'm all for not bashing other boards but come on now, 'keep it out of your mouth' implies somebody bout to catch a beatdown.

 

[BlkOnyx488]

dang
I jumped on the MN bandwagon (still do cause it's cheap)
I hopped on the Ovation train, and quickly jumped off before it made it to the next station, way too rich for my blood.

Idk nuffin bout cones or surge
Love the Indian Oils
BKT has me scared but Curious, so I side tracked to the Aphogee Keratin Train, cuz it's cheaper
No complaints though because non of the trains I hopped on threw my progress off track.

Oh and there was one you left out. Bagging at night, which I still do!

Ahhh, the board. In my five years of lurking and posting, I've seen it all.

First it was bunning and moisture 24/7/365.
Then MN.
Then Surge.
Then Megatek and Ovation.
Then the NO CONES, EVAAAAAAH movement.
Then henna and Indian oils.
Now it's BKT.
And still bunning and moisture 24/7/365 but protein too.

I love this place. It's like Michigan weather; if you don't like it, wait five minutes and it'll change, sure enough.

 

[Diva_Esq]

or what?

If I stand in front of my mirror at midnight and say Nappturality 3 times will my relaxer revert?

I'm all for not bashing other boards but come on now, 'keep it out of your mouth' implies somebody bout to catch a beatdown.

Right! About hair.

 

[Americka]

or what?

If I stand in front of my mirror at midnight and say Nappturality 3 times will my relaxer revert?

I'm all for not bashing other boards but come on now, 'keep it out of your mouth' implies somebody bout to catch a beatdown.

 

[wild curls raquelle]

Personally I feel the vibe has actually become more supportive. When I original joined and lurked for about a year and felt that the board was geared more towards relaxed ladies. However I feel now that the site for whatever reason is more inclusive. To some degree I do believe these topics are important because it can be the difference in someone learning and someone failing with their hair. I agree with you to some degree that it has become a bit excessive as of recent I believe it has to do with the movie but otherwise I believe it is healthy and educational. It's a neutral area for relaxed and naturals to interact and learn from each other.

 

[sylver2]

Some of y'all need to keep Nappturality's name out of y'alls mouth. I ain't saying, I'm just saying.

or what?

If I stand in front of my mirror at midnight and say Nappturality 3 times will my relaxer revert?

I'm all for not bashing other boards but come on now, 'keep it out of your mouth' implies somebody bout to catch a beatdown.

exactly what i was thinking......or what?!

 

[LiberianGirl]

or what?

If I stand in front of my mirror at midnight and say Nappturality 3 times will my relaxer revert?

I'm all for not bashing other boards but come on now, 'keep it out of your mouth' implies somebody bout to catch a beatdown.

Thank you. I'm like what?I'm not allowed to say Nappurality??

And I don't see anything bashing about saying you don't like a site. She did not speak negatively and say why she didn't like it so I don't see the problem.

 

[naijamerican]

^Something Wild Curls said just made me think of something:

When I first came to this forum 4 years ago, I can safely say that the breakdown of relaxed and natural heads was about 60-40. It remained that way for a couple of years. Since last year and through much of this year, there are so many people either transitioning to natural or have big-chopped. I think that when people are newly natural and discovering their texture unaltered by chemicals, there's a natural excitement mixed with trepidation and uncertainty. For some people (not all, but some) the blend of all those emotions comes out in being overly militant about natural hair.

Mind you, I haven't even seen a lot of what the OP is referring to, but that doesn't make it untrue. In fact, I have seen more backwards opinions of natural hair in the past two weeks than I ever have before and it might be a backlash against the perceived rise of "natural love," etc. Also, there are more new people posting that are coming from other hair forums and come with their own unique orientation toward hair that will shape what they post.

Anyway, those are my final thoughts on the matter.

 

[Kay.Dee]

People used to act like it was good netiquette to refrain from mentioning one of the sites included in the trinity of black hair forums on an opposing site if you didn't have anything nice to say about it. Supporting other black hair boards, even if they aren't your cup of tea.

 

[msa]

I have seen more backwards opinions of natural hair in the past two weeks than I ever have before and it might be a backlash against the perceived rise of "natural love," etc.

Taco meat, dirty, ghetto, unkempt, ugly, and the list goes on and on. Ridiculous.

 

[chebaby]

i havent seen any negativity. think that many women are going natural and MAYBE some relaxed ladies seem like they are being left behind. maybe they feel like the threads that have a lot to do with natural hair somehow is a diss at them. thats the only thing i can come up with because IMO there is nothing wrong with natural inspiration threads. nothing wrong with asking why did you relaxed. i mean everything seems so positive to me.

 

[chebaby]

Taco meat, dirty, ghetto, unkempt, ugly, and the list goes on and on. Ridiculous.

exactly. i think SOME relaxed ladies just feel left out or whatever because its the new thing to want to be as natural as can be. you have all these all natural hair products, natural threads, and people being upset that Tyra isnt natural.

 

[theprototype]

exactly. i think SOME relaxed ladies just feel left out or whatever because its the new thing to want to be as natural as can be. you have all these all natural hair products, natural threads, and people being upset that Tyra is natural.

Did you just put 'Tyra' and 'natural' in the same sentence?

 

[chebaby]

Did you just put 'Tyra' and 'natural' in the same sentence?

lol i meant to say that she ISNT natural.

 

[TCatt86]

I don't get the natural "nazi" vibe over here, what I do sense are alot of new naturals who are excited about their hair. If I want to make a thread highlighting the beauty of natural hair, I will. I rarely see ayone downin relaxed hair merely uplifting natural hair, and to be frank it's needed. Yes I love all hair, but natural hair is still seen as unattractive to many so I appreciate the threads that shed light on it's beauty.


And this site is nothing like Nappturality. Just thought I should throw that in there.

 

[Oasis]

or what?

If I stand in front of my mirror at midnight and say Nappturality 3 times will my relaxer revert?

I'm all for not bashing other boards but come on now, 'keep it out of your mouth' implies somebody bout to catch a beatdown.

I was being facetious. I don't go that hard for anything.

Yes, NP is hardcore and no talk of relaxers or straightening is permitted and sometimes even I think they are doing the most but some naturals need that kind of environment and support.

It grinds my gears that so many folks seem to be against a website that promotes black beauty and tries to get black women to love and accept their hair as it is. Yes, relaxers are hated over there but there is no hatred for the people that use them. I just don't understand how folks supposedly so comfortable with their decision to relax would get upset over a site such as NP. *shrugs*

 

[SouthernStunner]

I have witnessed alot of "heated" discussions on why did u relax, and if you had a choice would you realx, oh and why wait til you are older to go natural.

I stepped in one and thought I would give my opinion as to why I FELT THE WAY I DID and was quickly verbalized by some naturals. I was told that my answers were excuses. MY ANSWER!

Many naturals dont see how there words affect others and I tend to believe that many are rude. They dont see it because they are on the inside looking out and not realizing how their words affect others.

But the same goes for relaxed heads as well. I dont see how or what I say affects any natural because I am on the inside looking out.

Ladies, we need just to exercise some common courtesy. To use the excuse that some are being sensitive is to just ignore the fact that you knowinly offened someone and are denying that you willfully affected someone and not in a good way.

For any and all naturals that I have offended I do apologize.

Blessings,
SoutherStunner

 

[BlackMasterPiece]

Yes, NP is hardcore and no talk of relaxers or straightening is permitted and sometimes even I think they are doing the most but some naturals need that kind of environment and support.

It grinds my gears that so many folks seem to be against a website that promotes black beauty and tries to get black women to love and accept their hair as it is. Yes, relaxers are hated over there but there is no hatred for the people that use them. I just don't understand how folks supposedly so comfortable with their decision to relax would get upset over a site such as NP. *shrugs*

Couldn't agree with you more, there are so many names that they call ladies that are passionate about embracing our natural hair, yet I never see that same hosility directed toward aggressive marketing to make black women feel their natural hair is ugly, I know the name natural women who want to embrace their hair are called whats the name for the people who talk about good hair/bad hair? Whats the name for a billion dollar business based on making us feel that we have to alter or hide our hair to be beautiful?

Oh yea, thats right those people never get mentoned, but they got MANY names for the natural sista's..........

We gotta do better people.

 

[Neek-a-Nator]

I have witnessed alot of "heated" discussions on why did u relax, and if you had a choice would you realx, oh and why wait til you are older to go natural.

I stepped in one and thought I would give my opinion as to why I FELT THE WAY I DID and was quickly verbalized by some naturals. I was told that my answers were excuses. MY ANSWER!

Many naturals dont see how there words affect others and I tend to believe that many are rude. They dont see it because they are on the inside looking out and not realizing how their words affect others.

But the same goes for relaxed heads as well. I dont see how or what I say affects any natural because I am on the inside looking out.

Ladies, we need just to exercise some common courtesy. To use the excuse that some are being sensitive is to just ignore the fact that you knowinly offened someone and are denying that you willfully affected someone and not in a good way.

For any and all naturals that I have offended I do apologize.

Blessings,
SoutherStunner

Thank you for saying this, it's all about common courtesy which some forget to practice. There should never be an instance to justify rude behavior. In your post you handled yourself like a true woman.

 

[JayAnn0513]

I'm not as nice as SouthernStunner and I value the 6.95 I paid for my membership so I'll keep it short. When I read the title of this thread I thought about a few choice members who can be guaranteed to post something negative about relaxed/chemically treated hair in a "relaxed vs. natural". Some of those same people are posting in this thread complaining when relaxed heads do it to them. It's rather annoying. And as I posted in a previous thread it makes me wonder who are they trying to convince? The relaxed heads or themselves.

It kind of reminds me of "neo fever".

 

[jamaraa]

Well, I understand that some people are very excited about their "discovering" their natural textures, but that excitement isn't necessarily a new thing when it's repeated 10K times. Taking backhanders at the relaxed ain't cute either. It's kind of like a new convert to a religion. Been there..done that.

Some of these convos are really quite regressive because it's becoming yet another barrier dividing Black women from each other. How can this growing barrier and resentment be a positive thing? The intolerance goes both ways tho.

Tho I'm a lifelong natural, I didn't and won't ever join Nappturality, tho I have no problems w/ the site itself (I've read and lurked over the years). I don't want to lock myself away from other BW who simply choose a different option than myself. Besides, I find the relaxed info useful to help the women in my family maintain their hair to its best. If I give advice on a product or whatever, I always try to include both the natural and relaxed.