"Im natural, I relax once per year."

[CheLala13]

I think a lot of people think that relaxed hair can magically revert. I remember when I BC'd and people would say "Ohh..you're natural? And you cut it???"...I just reply "Well that's what you usually have to do to become natural..."

People were confused.

 

[ThickHair]

lol
My first thought was that she is using "natural" to to describe that its all her hair no extensions/weave.Guess not.

Oh the Tyra definition.

 

[Mitey Cyrus]

And she's in hair school!??

Wow. She sounds like the type of person that thinks you can wash out a perm with detergent. I hope she gets educated on this soo b/c she doesn't need to spread this ignorance to her future clients.

 

[MissRissa]

yeah alot of folks think that the relaxer fades away. they dont actually understand the chemistry of relaxing. the worst part is she should know better, being in cosmetology school.

 

[Bubblingbrownshuga]

You have to nod your head and say 'I hear you' to these types and leave the convo alone.

 

[princessnad]

If her hair is less than 6 inches long it could be true.

 

[skegeesmb]

Yeah, she's got 5.5 inches of natural hair, and the rest is relaxed. What are these people thinking.

 

[beana]

I hate that! Its like women who say "I have a texturizer, not a relaxer, so I'm natural." Then when you give them the look, they go on to explain, "A texturizer isnt a relaxer and doesnt have chemicals" I feel like screaming "you dumb ****!!!" I really get ANNOYED when i hear that nonsense. I had to tell this girl that a texturizer is a slow acting relaxer and she argued me down and everyone thought i was tripping because i was soo angry

 

[Hysi]

Ahhhh plaah plaah plaah. aaahhhh plaa plaa
plaa

 

[Supervixen]

Okay, I exited again to re-post. I told her that what she described wasn't natural. And she insisted that it was, I re-insisted the opposite. Well, she decided to stop talking to me. A lot of time I don't correct ignorance, but a hair student telling me she's natual when she's relaxed was too much.

Her hair was mostly up, and looked bone straight to me. It couldn't have been more than neck length. Definitely not APL. It didn't look dry.

We were talking about her daughter's cute afro-puffs, and I told her I was mostly natural;I hadn't had a relaxer in 3+ years. Her statement was, "you can be natural and have a relaxer. I'm natural, I relax my hair once per year." The conversation went down hill from there.

I guess she was saying that her texture wasn't bone straight? Either way, my bff's mom works at Pivot Point (where homegul goes to cosmetology school) and she for sure doesn't go around perpetuating THAT ridiculousness.

After today, I'll probably never dispute someone again if I hear anything similar. I was thrown off.

 

[Tene]

And she's in hair school!??

Sad and to think she's gonna be doing someone's hair in the near future.

 

[wild curls raquelle]

so wait she's in hair school? They may have not gotten to that lesson yet.

But seriously this is the moment that I would have just taken a deep breath, took a huge gulp of alcohol and pray for our youth.. And although I wasn't with you I will pray for her really hard and then laugh hoping that Monday is the day they discuss relaxer/ perms/ texlaxer/ chemical treatments, just about the time when she has that Ah-hah moment.

 

[jamaraa]

I've heard this said of Ethiopians....they relax rarely (maybe 4 times per annum at most) and mostly keep it w/ more texture than not (ie they don't worry about straightness). In some ways, I think it depends on how it's cared for. I'm not sure of what I think about this, but I don't dismiss it out of hand.

 

[sheba1]

Gurrrl, this lady always wore braids and weaves at my job and, at the time, I wore a bunch of braids and wigs also. I'd only been there 6 months or so and no one, yet knew I was natural. So we were talking one day and she said to me that she was natural and my eyes lit up. "So am I!" And you know I'm hair obsessed so we talked natural hair and all that for a while.

About a month later she came in with very healthy looking APL relaxed hair. And I said to her, "OMG, you decided to relax!!" And she says, "Oh, well, you know the braids strip the perm" So, in reality she'd been relaxed all along, but she felt she was natural because the braids had stripped her perm.

 

[Mizz Diamonds]

Hold up wait a minute

I relaxed once or twice year, so that means I was natural and didn't have to cut my hair?

WHY DIDN'T ANYONE TELL ME?!!!!!

 

[Mizz Diamonds]

the braids had stripped her perm.

Wow now that is a new one

I have heard washing your hair too much can strip the relaxer out and washing with beer yeah alchol beer a relaxer is the same as a dye look: well you know what i mean) you can't get rid of a permanent dye by washing your hair frequently and the same applies for relaxer


see with all this nonsense being passed around people start overlapping their relaxed ahir and over processing their hair thinning it our so much and then they think their hair can't grow

 

[nikki2229]

I had this conversation with a young lady at the beauty salon yesterday. She got a quick weave and said she leaves it in for 2 months at a time but doesn't use tissue paper under the cap so the glue gets on her hair.
Me: How does your hair hold up when you take the weave off?
Her: Well my hair grows because it is natural.
Me: Well what about the glue, does it pull your hair off?
Her: Yes, it does. I didn't have any edges but they are growing back, so I am good. Plus I don't care about my hair under there because I always wear a weave and I am natural.
Me: Oh. How long have you been natural?
Her: Well, I don't know. I just put a perm in my hair the other day. I only did it so I can my weave done.
Me: Looking confused, I just said oh okay.
Normally I would have gotten into a discussion with the girl but I heard all types of ignorant comments in there. This young lady and the stylist were both talking about how rip the glue off of their hair. They both said they didn't care about their hair and the stylist said that if the glue is stuck on her hair, she just cuts it off.

 

[MAMATO]

Well, some people chemically treat their hair with BKT and still say they are natural, so if she relaxes her hair once a year and is only neck length, that means most of her hair (if not all) is probably natural by the end of the year. Basically she is wearing more of her natural texture than a BKT girl per se. Well, as a relaxed girl, I dont consider her hair relaxed as well if most of her texture is natural, but at the same time it would not bother me that much if she'd claim to be relaxed. Why dont we let the girl call herself whatever she wants from the moment she is happy with her definition. It is not like you need some kinds of pedigrees to join either the relaxed or the natural club.

 

[Odd One]

....Only on lhcf can you laugh at this sort of statement


DO NOT THROW BRICKS AT ME... but prelhcf (yeah when I was one of those regular mortals ) I used to think that you could revert a relaxer...When I had braid or weaves for a while, took it down and saw my hair.. I thought I was natural... Not knowing that my hair was only dry from not taking care of it while the install

 

[sheba1]

Well, some people chemically treat their hair with BKT and still say they are natural, so if she relaxes her hair once a year and is only neck length, that means most of her hair (if not all) is probably natural by the end of the year. Basically she is wearing more of her natural texture than a BKT girl per se. Well, as a relaxed girl, I dont consider her hair relaxed as well if most of her texture is natural, but at the same time it would not bother me that much if she'd claim to be relaxed. Why dont we let the girl call herself whatever she wants from the moment she is happy with her definition. It is not like you need some kinds of pedigrees to join either the relaxed or the natural club.

Well, Mamato, you know that, according to your post, you don't believe I'm natural. Oh, and according to your statement, neither is Pinkskates Oh! and neither is NaturalGlow or Southerntease, or Cutenss All BKTd naturals, so.....

But it's cool... cuz just like color I think a woman with natural hair can have color. Actually we had a really great discussion on this and we found out that, according to MSA "naturals" who straighten aren't natural. So Lucky'smom isn't natural either. I say whatever.

I was virgin natural for nearly 15 years until May of 2009. You're welcome to your opinion of course, but I think you're wrong.

Incidentally, can you please show me the one natural on this board that hasn't ever used a product with an aldehyde in it? Such as DMDM Hydantoin or I. Urea? Before you answer that, please know that both of those are in 100% Aloe Vera Gel. Aldehyde is the "chemical" that is in BKT that you seem to think is less natural than a relaxer.

 

[Ivonnovi]

This makes sense to me, ....if she maintains no more than 1 inch of hair.

 

[lexiwiththecurls]

I hate that! Its like women who say "I have a texturizer, not a relaxer, so I'm natural." Then when you give them the look, they go on to explain, "A texturizer isnt a relaxer and doesnt have chemicals" I feel like screaming "you dumb ****!!!" I really get ANNOYED when i hear that nonsense. I had to tell this girl that a texturizer is a slow acting relaxer and she argued me down and everyone thought i was tripping because i was soo angry

OMG I have a friend like this and it annoys me as well. Any other time, she is so worried about her hair being super straight and getting her texturizer...but as soon as people are talking about how they love my natural hair, she loves to chime in about how she is natural too. You know I had to front her out. Some people just aren't educated because apparently these stylist aren't educated therefore these ladies don't get proper information. Its funny how everyone wants to claim natural nowadays

 

[wannabelong]

That's the first time I've ever heard that.

 

[jennboo]

How is BKT'd hair natural?

 

[MAMATO]

Well, Mamato, you know that, according to your post, you don't believe I'm natural. Oh, and according to your statement, neither is Pinkskates Oh! and neither is NaturalGlow or Southerntease, or Cutenss All BKTd naturals, so.....

But it's cool... cuz just like color I think a woman with natural hair can have color. Actually we had a really great discussion on this and we found out that, according to MSA "naturals" who straighten aren't natural. So Lucky'smom isn't natural either. I say whatever.

I was virgin natural for nearly 15 years until May of 2009. You're welcome to your opinion of course, but I think you're wrong.

Incidentally, can you please show me the one natural on this board that hasn't ever used a product with an aldehyde in it? Such as DMDM Hydantoin or I. Urea? Before you answer that, please know that both of those are in 100% Aloe Vera Gel. Aldehyde is the "chemical" that is in BKT that you seem to think is less natural than a relaxer.

I am very open to people calling their hair whatever they want from the moment they let other do the same... that's my point If Aloe vera and BKT contain the same chemical ingredient, I'd sincerely invite you to use it instead of BKT... In this recession time, you'd save a lot of money Well

 

[anon123]

I had this conversation with a young lady at the beauty salon yesterday. She got a quick weave and said she leaves it in for 2 months at a time but doesn't use tissue paper under the cap so the glue gets on her hair.
Me: How does your hair hold up when you take the weave off?
Her: Well my hair grows because it is natural.
Me: Well what about the glue, does it pull your hair off?
Her: Yes, it does. I didn't have any edges but they are growing back, so I am good. Plus I don't care about my hair under there because I always wear a weave and I am natural.
Me: Oh. How long have you been natural?
Her: Well, I don't know. I just put a perm in my hair the other day. I only did it so I can my weave done.
Me: Looking confused, I just said oh okay.
Normally I would have gotten into a discussion with the girl but I heard all types of ignorant comments in there. This young lady and the stylist were both talking about how rip the glue off of their hair. They both said they didn't care about their hair and the stylist said that if the glue is stuck on her hair, she just cuts it off.

This whole conversation erplexed

 

[sheba1]

I am very open to people calling their hair whatever they want from the moment they let other do the same... that's my point If Aloe vera and BKT contain the same chemical ingredient, I'd sincerely invite you to use it instead of BKT... In this recession time, you'd save a lot of money Well

Hey, well as long as you're open I'll let it ride. Of course if you get that list together please let me know.

 

[Supervixen]

....Only on lhcf can you laugh at this sort of statement

Right!! That's exactly why I couldn't even get to the ladies' room good to type to you all! I tried to tell Mr. Cyd and he just kinda gave me the blank face stare.

And Sheba1, Mamoto, well thought out, constructive "gangsta" is why I LOVE LHCF!

 

[msa]

But it's cool... cuz just like color I think a woman with natural hair can have color. Actually we had a really great discussion on this and we found out that, according to MSA "naturals" who straighten aren't natural. So Lucky'smom isn't natural either. I say whatever.

ETA: I'm gonna need you to show me where I said that because I can't find it.

 

[laurend]

I am very open to people calling their hair whatever they want from the moment they let other do the same... that's my point If Aloe vera and BKT contain the same chemical ingredient, I'd sincerely invite you to use it instead of BKT... In this recession time, you'd save a lot of money Well

I bet aloe won't loosen that curl.