Are we doing ourselves a disservice?

[MCMLXXII]

Hi All: When chemists create shampoos and conditioners, they're designed and pH balanced to work with each other. Are we doing ourselves a disservice by not using products intended to work as a "tag-team?"

Is it fair to give a negative product review (specifically about shampoos and conditioners) if it hasn't been used as it was intended?

Your thoughts?

 

[MA2010]

I rarely ever use "tag team" products but you make a very good point. Interested in reading what others have to say.

I may try and "tag team" my NTM products. I just need to go out and buy the shampoo.....

 

[Irresistible]

I think our hair certainly lets us know whether it ends up being a disservice or benefit

I personally use alot of products differently than they are intended, or differently than the instructions

I have seen both sides of that coin, both the bad and the good with this practice

I would say the bad mainly came from things I overlooked when I shouldnt have

 

[Irresistible]

ok re-reading the post......

tag teaming meaning using a line of both the shampoo and conditioner?

let me correct my answer

I'm no poo

so it doesnt apply for me at all, and Ive only seen benefit


did I get the question right this time?

ETA: I think alot of us can tell of a product is going to work for our hair when we really really know our hair and what to expect out of a product to deliver without having to use them as a tag team to know

 

[MCMLXXII]

Morning Irresistible! Yep, by "tag-team," I mean from the same product line. Since they're designed together, won't they yield the greatest results if used together?

I understand your comment, "I think alot of us can tell of a product is going to work for our hair when we really really know our hair and what to expect out of a product..."

 

[Curlee_lurker]

I'm low poo so I don't use the same line. I keep shampoo for the issues I have, mainly clarifying poo. Then I use whatever conditioner tickles my fancy.

I never saw a benefit when I was using the same line and I just bought them together because it seemed like the right thing to do. Honestly my scalp needs far outweigh my hair needs.

 

[longhairlover]

I did notice a difference with some products not all, the matrix sleek line all work well together, ic fantasia detangler condish and frizz shampoo i like as a combo,

I didn't like the ntm shampoo and condish combo, not good at all, ntm silk touch yes shampoo no.

 

[Amerie123]

hmm... good question, but i don't know about that. I think a lot of times, u can sometimes yield better results without tag-teaming, which is why most of us do it. I'm sure we've tag-teamed before (which is subconciously the thing to do, esp probably before LHCF for some people), however, if that be the case, then we would do it more often. I dunno, just adding my 2 cents. Hope it made sense.

 

[~*Tigget*~]

I've thought about this before as well. Which for 2009 thats one of the changes I will make, sticking w/ the same line of product. I will do this for 3 months and see how my hair does w/ it. I just have to find the right product....still searching for the magic potion for my hair.

 

[HoneyDew]

In some cases I do think using the pair is better. I try to use a pair whenever possible, just because of a personal preference, not because it does anything special to my hair. Most times, I do it to keep the fragrances the same or because I like how neatly the two bottles look in the bathroom.

But, there are too many sets where one product from it was horrible for my hair and the other was amazing. For example, the Biolage Conditioning Balm has been the best moisturizing deep conditioner for me. But, the shampoo was horrible for me. I used it for 4 shampoos before I realized that I needed to just give it away. But I am not going to stop using the conditioner just because of that.


Personally, I would be doing my hair a disservice by sticking with products just because the company made them together. I think a lot of what they do is marketing and advertising anyway. I mean, I have seen conditioners with NO PROTEIN ingredients, but labeled with the claim that it repairs damage. I make the choices. I am not going to let these manufacturer have be falling for the okey-doke.

 

[Muse]

I did notice a difference with some products not all, the matrix sleek line all work well together, ic fantasia detangler condish and frizz shampoo i like as a combo,

I didn't like the ntm shampoo and condish combo, not good at all, ntm silk touch yes shampoo no.

ITA. This is the line I'm using now. I never tag teamed before because although I can find a conditioner I like it's REALLY hard to find a shampoo in the same line that doesn't strip my hair. So far Sleek Look shampoo is working for me and it's the least stripping shampoo I've used so far besides Keracare detangling poo. I only use the sleek look poo and con though and I think it does make a difference.

 

[Fine 4s]

I think that some companies may be better at making one type of product than others so I don't confine myself to one line of product.

It would be interesting to do a tag team for Aveda products since I heard so many good things about them all erplexed

 

[soulie]

I just started doing this last week - I'm using absolutely NOTHING but Phyto or Phytospecific products for a month - not even my beloved Lacio Lacio for setting. I'm not giving myself any passes either. I have even replaced my MT with Phytospecific Phytogrowth Serum - that's a 3 month program, so we'll see how that goes.

 

[Dposh167]

the problem is that a lot of the shampoos within these tag team products have sulfates. IMO...sls is sls whether its in a suave or herbal essence line. So i dont feel the need to conjoin the poo and conditioner for my wash day. HOWEVER...if we are talking about a protein treatment line like joico, cpr, aveda damage....then i will make a consideration. Or even if its a moisturizing line with a non-sulfate poo, the ill use the tag team approach

 

[empressri]

It depends. I know my oyin and qhemet products work well when used as a set. But through experimenting I've found some banging combos to use with qhemet and karen's body beautiful. Then I found some things that were meant to be used together and still sucked big time.

So it's trial and error.

 

[SmilingElephant]

My hair loves tag-teaming. I always use the shampoo and matching conditioner and then a deep conditioner on my deep conditioning days....other than that....i co wash with only v05 conditioners

 

[TexturedTresses]

I just started doing this last week - I'm using absolutely NOTHING but Phyto or Phytospecific products for a month - not even my beloved Lacio Lacio for setting. I'm not giving myself any passes either. I have even replaced my MT with Phytospecific Phytogrowth Serum - that's a 3 month program, so we'll see how that goes.

Please let us know what you think about these products and how it goes. I'll be looking forward to your update in a month. TIA

 

[Neith]

Hi All: When chemists create shampoos and conditioners, they're designed and pH balanced to work with each other. Are we doing ourselves a disservice by not using products intended to work as a "tag-team?"

Is it fair to give a negative product review (specifically about shampoos and conditioners) if it hasn't been used as it was intended?

Your thoughts?

I will say most of the time, no.

What is the reason behind us not using the same line? Lots of times I'll see that they have a great conditioner, but a not so great (ingredients wise) shampoo... and vice versa.

So in those cases, no I am not missing out from anything because I choose not to use their bad formulations.

I'd also like to point out that a company will pretty much say anything to make you buy more Saying that it's made specifically for use with another product that they make really helps to rake in the dough.

With all that said, I don't doubt that there are some very good lines out there that work great together. Not many imo, but they are out there.


The decision of what products to use should come from our common sense (and knowledge of what is good for our hair) not from the little blurb written by God knows who back of the bottle... just my opinion.

 

[JustKiya]

I'm definitely doing them a disservice then, since I almost never use anything straight, much less multiple products from the same line (except for Eqyss). I trust my hair to tell me what works for it better than I trust the manufacturers to 'know' what works for my hair.

 

[bravenewgirl87]

I would have to say yes. Certain brands (especially salon quality) work better with the intended products in their line. You might get some of the strength, but you won't always get it all. But, you have to experiment to find out.

 

[tbaby_8]

I am like everyone else. I mix and match sometime. I like using the Redkin All soft shampoo and conditioner. I can tell a difference in the way that my hair reacts. Most of the time, I mix and match and my hair still benefits from it. Majority of the time, your hair will tell you when something is right or not right for you. You just have to be open to it.

 

[Lucky's Mom]

I will say most of the time, no.

What is the reason behind us not using the same line? Lots of times I'll see that they have a great conditioner, but a not so great (ingredients wise) shampoo... and vice versa.

So in those cases, no I am not missing out from anything because I choose not to use their bad formulations.

I'd also like to point out that a company will pretty much say anything to make you buy more Saying that it's made specifically for use with another product that they make really helps to rake in the dough.

With all that said, I don't doubt that there are some very good lines out there that work great together. Not many imo, but they are out there.


The decision of what products to use should come from our common sense (and knowledge of what is good for our hair) not from the little blurb written by God knows who back of the bottle... just my opinion.

I agree 100%.... I don't think Cosmetic companies have your best interests at heart most of the time... The have their profits in mind.

 

[loulou82]

I've been wondering the same thing lately. After I use up my non-staples I'm going to use Elucence shampoo and conditioner and Giovanni shampoo and conditioner together. When I deep condition though that's a different story because there are some that I love to use but won't touch their shampoos.

 

[Evolving78]

i usually stick to the same product line when it comes to shampoos and conditioners.
i use eluence right now, before that was HE, Dove, CON, Nexxus, Nioxin, Keracare, Biostrand. I use suave for wash and gos. when i was relaxed and started to really take care my hair, my stylist started me out on Biostrand. i used the whole product line that she prescribed for me. i would bring it into the shop every week and my hair became so healthy and started growing. i love all of the brands i just named, but most of them i was using when i was relaxed. Dove, CON, HE, and Eluence were used during my natural period (now)

 

[GOD]

I'd say it depends on the type of company...the better companies that actually research and develop good products probably arent making their claims up so its probably wise to use their whole systems, but then again for every good company i bet theres tons that make their claims up so it gets hard for us to figure it all out by trial and error whos who and whats what.

 

[JustKiya]

I'd say it depends on the type of company...the better companies that actually research and develop good products probably arent making their claims up so its probably wise to use their whole systems, but then again for every good company i bet theres tons that make their claims up so it gets hard for us to figure it all out by trial and error whos who and whats what.

But even if all the claims they make are true - we've learned, by being here, that what works perfectly for one woman's head tears someone elses head up - so, even if they aren't fudging their claims, that's still no evidence that tag-teaming will work best for me, ya know?

 

[pisceschica]

I rarely ever use "tag team" products but you make a very good point. Interested in reading what others have to say.

I may try and "tag team" my NTM products. I just need to go out and buy the shampoo.....

You look like Sierra (sp) c-lows step daughter the one from mtv super sweet 16

 

[chebaby]

no, if the product is good then it will work with and without the "team" product. i love keracare 1st lather and humecto but hate the hydrating and detaingling shampoo.