calling all muslimah's............ GET IN HERE PLEASE!!!

[TCT]

OK, I AM HAVING A LIL ISSUE WITH MY HAIR. NOT A BIG ONE, JUST A WEE ONE, BUT ITS BOTHERED ME FOR SOME TIME AND I WANTED TO ASK SOME ADVICE FROM SOME OTHER MUSLIMAH'S SO HERE IT GOES...............
ive been wearing a scarf for about 10 yrs or more now, and i have in that time always ect for a few occassions worn my hair back. i have had natural hair for a good amount of time. on and off all my life, and while my hair was natural and cared for (sometimes) i never really stoped to see what my curl pattern was really like. i know that i enjoyed the afro stage greatly when i was at the shorter lengths, but now im feeling like my hair is just a wee bit strange. i dont know if the strangness is natural or if i made it that way. all the time that my hair was natural in the past i never really noticed if it was straight in the front. if it was i was still able to do an afro style and pull it off well. as aposed to now where my hair just doesnt really stand up in the front. its like stringy straight. and the hair on the bottom layers is a more stand upish kind of hair. i dont like the fact that its like this. it looks as if i have texlaxed the front and left the back natural, it makes me feel like my hair is damaged, but since i never really paid much attention to my curl pattern i dont know if it is or isnt.erplexed

is there such a thing called stretch damage? and if so can i fix it without cutting and starting over? or is that the only way? some parts of y hair are a looser curl than others , and i am aware that its like that with many ladies whatever the texture of the curl. but i just feel down deep that this isnt normal and that there is something wrong!....


what do you ladies think???

has this happend to any one else???

 

[jamaraa]

Perhaps your body chemistry has changed and changed how your hair grows...have you had kids, taken medications, have an illness? Just saying you're natural is not enough info, how do you normally wear your hair underneath (braids, ponytail, etc..), do you put henna in it?

I've never heard of hijab altering anyone's hair before, but I guess it could happen depending on if you wear an underscarf or what kind you wear. Those stretchy kind are to be avoided at all costs, IMHO.

 

[TCT]

Perhaps your body chemistry has changed and changed how your hair grows...have you had kids, taken medications, have an illness? Just saying you're natural is not enough info, how do you normally wear your hair underneath (braids, ponytail, etc..), do you put henna in it?

I've never heard of hijab altering anyone's hair before, but I guess it could happen depending on if you wear an underscarf or what kind you wear. Those stretchy kind are to be avoided at all costs, IMHO.

well some of what you said could be the case really, individually or combined. im trying to figure it out. as far as children are concerned i havent had any in the past almost seven yrs now. i do not have any underlying illness that i know about( ALHUMDULLILAH= ALL PRAISE IS FOR GOD, FOR ANY NON MUSLIM LADIES IN HERE) I DONT take medications, just vitamins. and i may have forgotten to say in the last post that i wear my hair back. like pony tale, cornrows straight, back buns ect...... (all to the back though) could this be the culprit? as far as underscarves are concernd i sometimes do and sometimes dont, and the materials are varied. from (silk to cotton<---- i know cotton is bad) i sometimes wear it though ,and things in between those too.

 

[jamaraa]

well some of what you said could be the case really, individually or combined. im trying to figure it out. as far as children are concerned i havent had any in the past almost seven yrs now. i do not have any underlying illness that i know about( ALHUMDULLILAH= ALL PRAISE IS FOR GOD, FOR ANY NON MUSLIM LADIES IN HERE) I DONT take medications, just vitamins. and i may have forgotten to say in the last post that i wear my hair back. like pony tale, cornrows straight, back buns ect...... (all to the back though) could this be the culprit? as far as underscarves are concernd i sometimes do and sometimes dont, and the materials are varied. from (silk to cotton<---- i know cotton is bad) i sometimes wear it though ,and things in between those too.

I love cotton scarves, so hard to find these days. Those are better than the polyester stuff out there which dries your hair out. Other than just pure body chemsitry changes...LOL, it happens as we age, I can't see how hijab made it so flat, esp as you don't wear an underscarf all the time.

Forgive my questions about what you do underneath , I'm just trying to figure it out. Henna, over time, can loosen curl pattern in the hair, so I thought of that. If you braid or plait and keep them in for long periods, that can have it's effect. Lay off those underscarves that are like big headbands.

Maybe it's just plain on body chemistry and age...hair texture does change for some people as they age and just thru life in general.

 

[TCT]

I love cotton scarves, so hard to find these days. Those are better than the polyester stuff out there which dries your hair out. Other than just pure body chemsitry changes...LOL, it happens as we age, I can't see how hijab made it so flat, esp as you don't wear an underscarf all the time.

Forgive my questions about what you do underneath , I'm just trying to figure it out. Henna, over time, can loosen curl pattern in the hair, so I thought of that. If you braid or plait and keep them in for long periods, that can have it's effect. Lay off those underscarves that are like big headbands.

Maybe it's just plain on body chemistry and age...hair texture does change for some people as they age and just thru life in general.

you know it may be that, im not old - but im not a spring chickadee anymore either. i kinda really dont know. i wonder if i cut it would it grow back diff. if it did then that might answer my question, and if it didnt maybe it was always like that and i just never noticed. its almost as if its trained to lay down. i have a younger brother who has lots of hair. he wants his hair to lay down. he always ask how i get my hair to lay flat. i always tell him i think its trained somehow, but it kills me that i was so unaware of the texture of my hair , that im confussed about how it should be, oh well huh?

 

[TCT]

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[Ms Lala]

I am not Muslim but I still wanted to answer you post because my hair does something similar. My hair in the front is a different texture than the rest and I think I have trained it to lay down from wearing head wraps and scarves all of the time. Some pieces of my hair in the front are more wavy than kinky/coily like the rest of my hair. I actually appreciate this at times because it makes it easier for me to lay my edges down when I wear ponytails. As long as you don't notice splits or that the hair in the front is weak/breaking you should be ok. I think it is a good idea to give your hair a break from wearing it back/combed in the same direction all of the time if you can, also give that hair some special treatment w/conditioning and stimulating the scalp w/massaging since you are pulling it back often. I try to give my hair a break from being pulled back by wearing twists (w/my own hair). IHTH

 

[Halimah]

As salaamu alayki
Kafa haalaki? Ana bekhayr Im not really a hair expert but I just wanted to encourage you and give you some advice remember to make lots of duaa and depression is from the shaytan.

I never heard of strecth damage but what exactly is your hair regimen? and are you consisted w/it? b/c if you are natural and you are on the ball w/your regimen you should be ok insha Allah.

 

[jamaraa]

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you know it may be that, im not old - but im not a spring chickadee anymore either. i kinda really dont know. i wonder if i cut it would it grow back diff. if it did then that might answer my question, and if it didnt maybe it was always like that and i just never noticed. its almost as if its trained to lay down. i have a younger brother who has lots of hair. he wants his hair to lay down. he always ask how i get my hair to lay flat. i always tell him i think its trained somehow, but it kills me that i was so unaware of the texture of my hair , that im confussed about how it should be, oh well huh?

Body chemistry can change thru life, so it doesn't necessarily mean that you're old...LOL just that change could be occurring. Good or bad, change happens, right?

I do believe that hair can be "trained"...after all, how would people who aren't of African descent start dreads or people of African descent have cultivated ones? If you're doing something all the time, you can alter how the hair "lays".

Do what you want wrt cutting it off, but for now I'd suggest using underscarves that aren't wrapped too tightly and maybe plaiting or styling your front hair differently.

 

[TCT]

I am not Muslim but I still wanted to answer you post because my hair does something similar. My hair in the front is a different texture than the rest and I think I have trained it to lay down from wearing head wraps and scarves all of the time. Some pieces of my hair in the front are more wavy than kinky/coily like the rest of my hair. I actually appreciate this at times because it makes it easier for me to lay my edges down when I wear ponytails. As long as you don't notice splits or that the hair in the front is weak/breaking you should be ok. I think it is a good idea to give your hair a break from wearing it back/combed in the same direction all of the time if you can, also give that hair some special treatment w/conditioning and stimulating the scalp w/massaging since you are pulling it back often. I try to give my hair a break from being pulled back by wearing twists (w/my own hair). IHTH

the bolded sounds exactly like my hair. im assuming that your hair wasnt like this before you startd wearing it back/ with head wrapps and things all the time huh? ok so i guess there is some validaty to my question. its not the end of the world. i think i gave that impression somehow by some of the responses that i got. but i was just wondering if i had done it and if it could be fixed. anyhow, thank you ladies for stopping by to share. perhaps i could try some diff styles for a while. maybe if i give myself 6 months to a yr with out pulling back ill see a change.

 

[TCT]

As salaamu alayki
Kafa haalaki? Ana bekhayr Im not really a hair expert but I just wanted to encourage you and give you some advice remember to make lots of duaa and depression is from the shaytan.

I never heard of strecth damage but what exactly is your hair regimen? and are you consisted w/it? b/c if you are natural and you are on the ball w/your regimen you should be ok insha Allah.

awww wa/salaam uhti! alhumdullilah i am fine thanks for asking. i am tryna get on top of my hair thats all. i saw your hair in your progress thread. it looks soooo good. did you color on top of the blond color you had? it looks so think and healthy, mashaallah- may ALLAH continue to bless you with it.

 

[JustKiya]

I definitely think that you can 'train' your hair to lay/act a certain way, but I also think that as soon as you stop doing whatever 'trained' your hair for a certain period of time (assuming it's not 'training' that damages/weakens the hair), it will return to normal.

 

[Saida]

have you ever noticed after a long day of wearing Hijab or a scarf how your hair just lays so flat like almost stuck to your head I dont like that..

But maybe that's why your hair is so straight in the front because its trained to lay down flat, and then if you wear you hair in a ponytail, with an underscarf maybe it trains your backhair to have that position of the ponytail, I dont know just a thought.

if your wearing hijab most of the day, just try leaving your hair out more when your home.

Alhamdulilah, I'm a stay at home mom, so I really dont wear hijab that much unless I go out.

 

[spacetygrss]

Assalaamu alaykum ukthi.

I think that you have stretched your hair out in front from wearing it pulled back for so long. My hair used to be the same way after several years of wearing it pulled back like that. I've noticed that the texture is back to normal now that I have cut it and it's growing out again.

Insha'Allah that was helpful.

Wassalaamu alaykum.

 

[jamaraa]

I definitely think that you can 'train' your hair to lay/act a certain way, but I also think that as soon as you stop doing whatever 'trained' your hair for a certain period of time (assuming it's not 'training' that damages/weakens the hair), it will return to normal.

Assuming she doesn't stop covering (very unlikely)...all she can do is change up the style underneath and go uncovered w/ styles (ie 'fro or whatever) she likes when it's appropriate (ie at home).

For people who aren't Muslim, one of the goals in wearing hijab is for the hair to appear "flat" on the outside. You're not supposed to be able to tell how much hair a woman has under her hijab. Some women wrap a little too tight underneath.

 

[Saida]

there are diffrent ways she can wear her hair though under her hijab and still have it "flat"

it dosent ALWAYS have to be pulled back in a ponytail. you can part your hair diffrently maybe to the sides one day or something else, and it dosen't always have to be in a ponytail, even though its quite anoying having the hair hanging in the back, thats gets a little to hot.

but whenever your not wearing hijab, make sure you give your hair time to breath and relax

 

[jamaraa]

I never wear a ponytail under hijab...it would create the hump. Those who do wear them wrap underscarves in such a way to avoid the hump.

 

[1QTPie]

Do you think if she flat twisted or braided it that it would be flat enough for her to wear her head covering, and "untrain" her hair too.

Or perhaps making sure that as soon as you hit the threshold of your home that you immediately take your hair down, maybe spritz it and twist it so that it can relax for hours before you wrap your hair again??

 

[TCT]

Assalaamu alaykum ukthi.

I think that you have stretched your hair out in front from wearing it pulled back for so long. My hair used to be the same way after several years of wearing it pulled back like that. I've noticed that the texture is back to normal now that I have cut it and it's growing out again.

Insha'Allah that was helpful.

Wassalaamu alaykum.

wa laiykum salaam uhkti, thank you for your response.

atleast its good to know that the texture can return. i have to think long ahd hard about wether or not i wanna start over, but agian thats good to know!

 

[jamaraa]

Do you think if she flat twisted or braided it that it would be flat enough for her to wear her head covering, and "untrain" her hair too.

Or perhaps making sure that as soon as you hit the threshold of your home that you immediately take your hair down, maybe spritz it and twist it so that it can relax for hours before you wrap your hair again??

Yup to all.

 

[JustKiya]

there are diffrent ways she can wear her hair though under her hijab and still have it "flat"

it dosent ALWAYS have to be pulled back in a ponytail. you can part your hair diffrently maybe to the sides one day or something else, and it dosen't always have to be in a ponytail, even though its quite anoying having the hair hanging in the back, thats gets a little to hot.

but whenever your not wearing hijab, make sure you give your hair time to breath and relax

A big yeah that to the entire post. I wore hijab for close to 15 years, and how to get rid of 'hijab-hair' was a rather active topic for me & my girlfriends in our teen years. We found that the 'top to bottom' pressure of just hijab was less 'mushing' than both the 'top to bottom' pressure, as well as the 'pulled back' pressure of tight styles.
Taking the hijab off ASAP (and wearing it a little looser, too) also helped.

 

[Saida]

I never wear a ponytail under hijab...it would create the hump. Those who do wear them wrap underscarves in such a way to avoid the hump.

I wear a ponytail, not a high one if thats what you mean, and it dosent creat a hump for me at all maybe because i wear khimar allahu alim

 

[TCT]

Assuming she doesn't stop covering (very unlikely)...all she can do is change up the style underneath and go uncovered w/ styles (ie 'fro or whatever) she likes when it's appropriate (ie at home).

For people who aren't Muslim, one of the goals in wearing hijab is for the hair to appear "flat" on the outside. You're not supposed to be able to tell how much hair a woman has under her hijab. Some women wrap a little too tight underneath.

YA ALLAH SAVE ME AND MY HOUSEHOLD FROM THAT! no way do i plan to stop covering, but also i guess i could let out my hair as soon as i get home. i am the ponytail queen these days, so i guess the combination of that and the tightly tied underscarf cause my problem. i am gonna try to keep my hair out while home. or maybe noterplexed. i mean maybe i should put on a plastic baggy at home, i have fine dry strands, i dont want them to dry out too much.

 

[jamaraa]

YA ALLAH SAVE ME AND MY HOUSEHOLD FROM THAT! no way do i plan to stop covering, but also i guess i could let out my hair as soon as i get home. i am the ponytail queen these days, so i guess the combination of that and the tightly tied underscarf cause my problem. i am gonna try to keep my hair out while home. or maybe noterplexed. i mean maybe i should put on a plastic baggy at home, i have fine dry strands, i dont want them to dry out too much.

LOL...I had to say that for someone who's not Muslim. Those solutions you've come up w/ sound good, inshallah. Try to vary it up underneath...braids and plaits underneath might help the "recurling" process along, so there's another incentive.

 

[JustKiya]

YA ALLAH SAVE ME AND MY HOUSEHOLD FROM THAT! no way do i plan to stop covering, but also i guess i could let out my hair as soon as i get home. i am the ponytail queen these days, so i guess the combination of that and the tightly tied underscarf cause my problem. i am gonna try to keep my hair out while home. or maybe noterplexed. i mean maybe i should put on a plastic baggy at home, i have fine dry strands, i dont want them to dry out too much.

Baggying would definitely help - heck, baggying with a low bun under your hijab would help too! I've noticed that the moister my hair is, the more curly it tends to be, too.

 

[TCT]

I wear a ponytail, not a high one if thats what you mean, and it dosent creat a hump for me at all maybe because i wear khimar allahu alim

i wear a pony under my hijab too. and i guess the kind of hair(natural) and as well the size of my head can almost be figuerd out by looking at me from the back or the side. ALLAHu-alim if it is incorrect. i dont want to get off topic too much ,but i have read some essays from a couple scholars on what the description of the hump is. and what woman it was talking about. it wasnt the pony wearing woman it was something else, BUT AGAIN ALLAH KNOWS BETTER , MAY ALLAH CORRECT US AND FORGIVE US FOR WHAT WE HAVE DONE WRONG IN IGNORANCE

 

[TCT]

LADIES THANK YOU ALL. MAYBE MY HAIR ISNT SO STRANGE AFTER ALL HUH? SOMETIME WHEN YOU DONT TALK TO PPL ABOUT THINGS YOU THINK YOUR THE ONLY ONE.


~~~~~ GROUP HUGGG ~~~~~ XOXOXO

 

[Saida]

Ameen, TCT I've seen the kinda hump that is being mentioned, and you almost have to have a ponytail in the middel of your hair for it to look like that describe hump, Yes sorry for getting of topic, just didnt want everyone to think you can't wear a ponytail under hijab

 

[TCT]

Baggying would definitely help - heck, baggying with a low bun under your hijab would help too! I've noticed that the moister my hair is, the more curly it tends to be, too.

ALRIGHT THEN IM ON THE BALL, I GOT THE BAGGY ON MY HEAD AS I TYPE.

 

[jamaraa]

Ameen, TCT I've seen the kinda hump that is being mentioned, and you almost have to have a ponytail in the middel of your hair for it to look like that describe hump, Yes sorry for getting of topic, just didnt want everyone to think you can't wear a ponytail under hijab

Not really in the top of head ...the hump can be at the back, it depends on HOW MUCH HAIR is underneath.

Frankly, breakage issues concern me because of where the point of the gathered hair meets, the scarf or underscarf rubs.

I never said you couldn't wear a pony tail only that to avoid the hump and smooth it out, you probably need an underscarf. The longer your hair is, the more this is so, from my experience.