It Feels Good When You Rinse, But Is It Really Benefiting Your Hair?

[Supergirl]

I found the perfect quote on the internet for something I've been trying to express here for a long time:

Really, I’m so sick of seeing cones as the 2nd ingredient. Many products give you instant gratification - in the shower it’s slippery, comb through is fab - but what about 8 hours later? Is it still soft? What about the next day? What about 1-2 years down the road?

This is so true! This is something we should seriously consider if we are taking our hair care seriously.

This is why I like to see how my hair feels when I air dry with no additional product after using a conditioner for the first time. Pantene comes to mind as one of those "feel good" conditioners that really does nothing beneficial for the hair. Can you think of any others? Are you guilty of loving a product based on how it feels on your wet hair and when you rinse?

 

[youwillrise]

i've actually been thinking about this a lot.

i'm definitely trying to be more mindful of how something makes my hair feel when it's DRY vs when it's soaking wet with water (which will obviously make your hair feel moist anyway).

there've been many products that i falsely thought worked for me just because it felt good while my hair was still wet.

definitely learned that lesson for the most part lol

 

[pattycake0701]

I've had this on my mind for the last few days. I love my Herbal Essences products (especially during the rinse out) but I have to use so much of it and my hair is thirsty 1/2 way through the day.

I'm so frugal, and I hate spending extra money on myself, but I do want to reach a hair milestone so I think I'm gonna have to bite the bullet and purchase some salon products. I'm thinking Elucence, Nexxus or Keracare.

 

[Dposh167]

NTM Silk Touch Leave-in: I never use it on wet hair; only on dry. but it feels soooo soft the day i use it (mostly due to that cone in the very beginning). but the next day my hair just feels like it needs to be clarified.

this is exactly why i'm so ingredient picky when it comes to products i put on my hair on a daily basis. so most of my daily moisturizers are natural based

 

[Leslie_C]

NTM Silk Touch Leave-in: I never use it on wet hair; only on dry. but it feels soooo soft the day i use it (mostly due to that cone in the very beginning). but the next day my hair just feels like it needs to be clarified.

this is exactly why i'm so ingredient picky when it comes to products i put on my hair on a daily basis. so most of my daily moisturizers are natural based

NTM only felt good when I put it on for me! After my hair sucked it up (seemed like within seconds)...it was over.

Supergirl I know what u mean....I really would love to find a combo of products that were so good I didnt need to add anything to my hair except maybe a little oil or something between washes. That would be a dream come true!

I will say lately my hair has never felt better and I dont have to pile on products to get it to feel that way, so that is mucho improvemento lol. I used to have to moisturize 2 or 3 times a day....I can get by with every other day now...but Im trained to do it at least daily.

 

[dlewis]

I question some things I use on my hair. But ya know sometimes you just have to use what can help you get the comb through your hair. I just hope that I use enough amla, kemi, and almond oil to even things out.

 

[gymfreak336]

I found the perfect quote on the internet for something I've been trying to express here for a long time:



This is so true! This is something we should seriously consider if we are taking our hair care seriously.

This is why I like to see how my hair feels when I air dry with no additional product after using a conditioner for the first time. Pantene comes to mind as one of those "feel good" conditioners that really does nothing beneficial for the hair. Can you think of any others? Are you guilty of loving a product based on how it feels on your wet hair and when you rinse?

I know what you mean Supergirl. The only exception I have to Pantene is the mask.

My problem is that companies also keep changing formula's of stuff....getting rid of the good ingredients.

Like Moisturefuse. That used to be the best conditioner...it had kelp extract and al kinds of goodies....and now, its full of stuff I can't pronounce.

 

[curlcomplexity]

I found the perfect quote on the internet for something I've been trying to express here for a long time:



This is so true! This is something we should seriously consider if we are taking our hair care seriously.

This is why I like to see how my hair feels when I air dry with no additional product after using a conditioner for the first time. Pantene comes to mind as one of those "feel good" conditioners that really does nothing beneficial for the hair. Can you think of any others? Are you guilty of loving a product based on how it feels on your wet hair and when you rinse?

I might get an "e-beatdown" for this but.....I think many of the dominican rinses fall into this category. I have a bottle of Aceite de Oliva collecting dust on my shelf right now. It didn't give me that much slip and after a few hours, my hair was dry and brittle. I would much rather have a great deep conditioner and leave-in.

 

[halee_J]

I was thinking about this only this morning as I was washing my hair. I am beginning to have second thoughts about my beloved S-curl (cones= buildup). So I'm looking into making my own moisturizer with butters and honeyquat.

 

[dlewis]

I might get an "e-beatdown" for this but.....I think many of the dominican rinses fall into this category. I have a bottle of Aceite de Oliva collecting dust on my shelf right now. It didn't give me that much slip and after a few hours, my hair was dry and brittle. I would much rather have a great deep conditioner and leave-in.

I don't see anything good about dominican conditioners. When you look at the list of ingredients . But Marie told me not to say anything bad about her products.

 

[sunshinelady]

I've been thinking about this too. How do we fix it?

 

[curlcomplexity]

I don't see anything good about dominican conditioners. When you look at the list of ingredients . But Marie told me not to say anything bad about her products.

I won't tell...

 

[HERicane10]

What's funny about that is some of the products that have "good" ingredients, just don't "feel" good when your using them! erplexed

 

[chicacanella]

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.....I love S-Curl now that I use it. Are any of you saying something is wrong with it?

 

[Leslie_C]

What's funny about that is some of the products that have "good" ingredients, just don't "feel" good when your using them! erplexed

this is true...

 

[Evazhair]

I found the perfect quote on the internet for something I've been trying to express here for a long time:



This is so true! This is something we should seriously consider if we are taking our hair care seriously.

This is why I like to see how my hair feels when I air dry with no additional product after using a conditioner for the first time. Pantene comes to mind as one of those "feel good" conditioners that really does nothing beneficial for the hair. Can you think of any others? Are you guilty of loving a product based on how it feels on your wet hair and when you rinse?

I learned this the hard way using Keracare products exclusively for a few years. Especially using the silken seal, high sheen glossifier, and setting lotion&foam. My hair would be salon fresh that day, but in a couple of days, I couldn't add any moisture to my hair, even though it still looked good. Within days my hair would be dry and weighed down with product.That is now the criteria for any products I use. I chelate often and the products I use definitely benefit my hair, because I don't have the dryness problem I had up until May. This is my first LHCF winter, and I am still waiting for my hair to dry out. It is definitely important to use products that really give lasting effects unless you are going to wash daily, IMO.

 

[VeryBecoming]

I always wonder about this.

How is good is a shampoo/conditioner if I still to put on 5 different things afterwards to make my hair feel like it did after I rinsed?

 

[RubyWoo]

I found the perfect quote on the internet for something I've been trying to express here for a long time:



This is so true! This is something we should seriously consider if we are taking our hair care seriously.

This is why I like to see how my hair feels when I air dry with no additional product after using a conditioner for the first time. Pantene comes to mind as one of those "feel good" conditioners that really does nothing beneficial for the hair. Can you think of any others? Are you guilty of loving a product based on how it feels on your wet hair and when you rinse?

I soooo agree with this post. One conditioner that comes to mind is Silicon Mix (the deep conditioner; not the leave in). Now I used to rave about this conditioner big time because it does loosen/soften my new growth, the slip is incredible and my hair overall felt great when wet. However, my hair only remained moisturized for a day or two. I would then need to apply moisturizer to keep my hair moist until wash day. I think it had to do with the mineral oil in it. Now I rotate between Mizani Moisturfuse and ORS Replenishing conditioner (I use both once a week but on alternate days). Both are incredibly moisturizing, I get softness, shine and new growth loosened/softened. Also I never I have to use a moisturizer between wash day sessions anymore. I these conditioners.

 

[tiffanyoneal]

BUMP!
Great post! I have always wondered the same thing!​

 

[nakialovesshoes]

I cosign on the ORS. I used it for the first time this weekend & my hair has been soft all week. I haven't done any co-washes this week, only lightly oiling daily with coconut oil. My hair is still moisturized and soft. I think that also has to do with the Giovanni leave-in. I started using it the day before Thanksgiving & I'm very pleased with it as well.

I soooo agree with this post. One conditioner that comes to mind is Silicon Mix (the deep conditioner; not the leave in). Now I used to rave about this conditioner big time because it does loosen/soften my new growth, the slip is incredible and my hair overall felt great when wet. However, my hair only remained moisturized for a day or two. I would then need to apply moisturizer to keep my hair moist until wash day. I think it had to do with the mineral oil in it. Now I rotate between Mizani Moisturfuse and ORS Replenishing conditioner (I use both once a week but on alternate days). Both are incredibly moisturizing, I get softness, shine and new growth loosened/softened. Also I never I have to use a moisturizer between wash day sessions anymore. I these conditioners.

 

[Serenity_Peace]

I found the perfect quote on the internet for something I've been trying to express here for a long time:



This is so true! This is something we should seriously consider if we are taking our hair care seriously.

This is why I like to see how my hair feels when I air dry with no additional product after using a conditioner for the first time. Pantene comes to mind as one of those "feel good" conditioners that really does nothing beneficial for the hair. Can you think of any others? Are you guilty of loving a product based on how it feels on your wet hair and when you rinse?

The usual suspect is CON. There are many of us who use this shampoo, including myself. I love it! Been using it off and on since I was in High School, and no matter what other product I use, I always come back to CON.

 

[Supergirl]

I've been thinking about this too. How do we fix it?

1) Well, I think first we should look at the ingredient list. This doesn't mean that everything with great ingredients will be something you'll love. If the first 4-6 (just a ballpark) are things like cones and mineral oil then consider leaving the product at the store. Neither of those ingredients is necessarily BAD, but if they are first in your conditioner, then your hair is most likely not reaping the benefit of any good ingredients that are in the product.

2) Next, I think we should not evaluate a hair product based on how wonderful and glorious our hair feels when we rinse it out. A Pantene rinse is the ultimate, but Pantene is so NOT moisturizing at all. In fact, a conditioner that really moisturizes the hair won't have the most exciting slip factor. I'm not saying it won't have any but it definitely won't be that "Pantene slip." Beware of conditioners that make your tub slippery after you've rinsed. I believe I can safely say that these are not moisturizing your hair one bit.

3) Pay attention to how your hair feels after it is dry. If you really want to test a conditioner, do as I do: Don't use any product after rinsing, let it air dry, hood dry, or rollerset. A blowdryer, IMO, won't be a true "test" because many cheap conditioners are made to make your hair seem awesome after you blowdry. Many companies formulate their products based on the assumption that you will blow dry your hair after you've washed it. (because most women in the general population do blow dry afterwards) Even Wanakee had something in her haircare manual to the effect of not getting pumped over a product because of how it feels when your hair is wet. She said what's important is how your hair "sets up" when it is dry.

4) After you've done the test, does your hair feel smooth, soft, and supple? I am not saying it will feel as smooth as flat-ironed hair, because air-dried hair just doesn't. But an additional step you can add to the "test" is to flat iron a piece of your hair after it is dry (if you air-dried), still before adding any other product to it. If your hair shines and feels super smooth and soft to the touch then your conditioner seems to have passed the test. After this, add your oils or whatever you enjoy doing to your hair normally.

Disclaimer: All of this is based on my personal experience.

 

[Supergirl]

The usual suspect is CON. There are many of us who use this shampoo, including myself. I love it! Been using it off and on since I was in High School, and no matter what other product I use, I always come back to CON.

You know what, I really am referring to conditioners. I'd never thought of shampoos that might fit into this category.

 

[PinkPebbles]

I found the perfect quote on the internet for something I've been trying to express here for a long time:



This is so true! This is something we should seriously consider if we are taking our hair care seriously.

This is why I like to see how my hair feels when I air dry with no additional product after using a conditioner for the first time. Pantene comes to mind as one of those "feel good" conditioners that really does nothing beneficial for the hair. Can you think of any others? Are you guilty of loving a product based on how it feels on your wet hair and when you rinse?

I agree with this....I recently switched my products and I've seen a change for the better in the mositure and shine of my hair.

 

[Britt]

Supergirl,

Thanks ! I am completely cosigning your post about the moisture test. A lot of those slippery conditioners do not provide actual moisture. A good moisturizing conditioner and leave in is suppose to leave your hair pliable and supple when your hair dries. This is why I just love Giovanni leave in. This week I used the Salerm 21 B5 leave in, and I can feel a bit of a difference in my airdried hair compared to when I used the Salerm. The Giovanni is much more moisturizing . It's good to use a moisturizing deep conditioner, and for added slip, use a Dominican rinse or a cheap conditioner to detangle.

 

[wheezy807]

Does anyone have a link to a cones topic, like explainig what cones are and how they affect our hair? TIA.

 

[*Muffin*]

I was really against -cones when I first started my hair-care journey. I was on an all-natural kick. But after a while my hair felt really dry and I didn't feel as if the DC recipes I was using was helping me. So I bought a Deep conditioner. It has cones, but when I let it air dry with no product in it, my hair feels super-soft! Sometimes I think I don't even need to put a leave-in conditioner in my hair (but I do anyway). Are cones damaging to your hair in the long run? I don't want to use something that makes me feel good now but will give me dry and brittle hair later .

 

[wheezy807]

Supergirl,

Thanks ! I am completely cosigning your post about the moisture test. A lot of those slippery conditioners do not provide actual moisture. A good moisturizing conditioner and leave in is suppose to leave your hair pliable and supple when your hair dries. This is why I just love Giovanni leave in. This week I used the Salerm 21 B5 leave in, and I can feel a bit of a difference in my airdried hair compared to when I used the Salerm. The Giovanni is much more moisturizing . It's good to use a moisturizing deep conditioner, and for added slip, use a Dominican rinse or a cheap conditioner to detangle.

I think she's talking about good deep conditioners only, not leave ins.

 

[BeautifulFlower]

I know what you mean Supergirl. The only exception I have to Pantene is the mask.

My problem is that companies also keep changing formula's of stuff....getting rid of the good ingredients.

Like Moisturefuse. That used to be the best conditioner...it had kelp extract and al kinds of goodies....and now, its full of stuff I can't pronounce.

Sometimes the hair care industry reminds on McDonald's or fast food Yes sounds crazy but follow me with this one.

Has anyone seem "Supersize Me" and saw McDonald's will create conscious health problems for many across the Nation and create divisions to solve the problems at the same time?

They havent solved anything, they are just bringing in more dollars through another means because they havent fixed the bad ingredients and they are "helping" those that have been effected by the food.

OT: After this movie, I stopped eating fast food at together. It freaked me out.

 

[BeautifulFlower]

You know what, I really am referring to conditioners. I'd never thought of shampoos that might fit into this category.

I just shampooed with CON yellow cap. I cosign. I will never use any other shampoo in life. My hair always feels wonderful after.

What do you guys think about Silicon Mix Hair Treatment?

I love it. Gives me great slip. But it is a cone. Is it bad?erplexed