Frederick Frekkai is Stealing Our Hair Secrets!!

[Soliel185]

So I bought a Glamour Magazine at the Airport today to pass the time on my flight from Denver. And on page 118 Frederic Fekkai is quoted as saying

" My shine recipe: Comb a mix of one tbsp apple cider vinegar and 16oz water through damp hair; shampoo"

Um...This is the same man selling hair products at $25 a pop! I'm not saying they don't work -- I'm just saying that as far as I'm concerned that all the proof I need that anything I can buy at the health food store and mix in my kitchen will be just as affective as a "glaze" treatment or an expensive brand name. He also suggests that curly haired girls mix a straightening product with a shine serum to define and shine curls and warns against flat iron and curling iron dependency. I swear...they're sneaking on here and stealing our ideas!

 

[wheezy807]

Of course they are! I've been in a bss and looked at product that i had at home and why did i have the same ingredients but mineral oil was the sixth ingredient instead of the second? Do i really think they are using less mineral oil? I remember when i first joined LHCF i was using a bottle of Motions Hair Oil Moisturizer, first ingredient was mineral oil. Now you got to the bss a majority of the moisturizers have Agua, deonized water, water as a first ingredient and you know that you wouldn't dare put them in your hair. Down right scary i tell ya!!

 

[Nita81]

I thought it was interesting to see this from Cream of Nature...
http://cremeofnature.com/products_3.asp

 

[wheezy807]

I thought it was interesting to see this from Cream of Nature...
http://cremeofnature.com/products_3.asp

are you serious!? frederick and everybody else is stealing everything from these boards!

 

[audacious1]

I thought it was interesting to see this from Cream of Nature...
http://cremeofnature.com/products_3.asp

This makes so much sense.

As a matter of fact, I'd say the marketing execs at any firm that specializes in producing hair products would not be on their job if they didn't visit this site and others similar to it.

 

[*Happily Me*]

OP you have gorgeous hair

 

[IntoMyhair]

if there going to use the board they should at least give a donation to it. Some funds to keep it going.

is there anything that we can do?
can anything be copy written?

 

[MrsBKJ]

Lol i dont think they are stealing it from here...
AVc rinses are commonly used and well known for their shine and hair benefits.

 

[JamericanGurl]

Lol i dont think they are stealing it from here...
AVc rinses are commonly used and well known for their shine and hair benefits.

ITA............


I hate to be a negative nelly and rain on the original thoughts....But! Frederick has been using AVC since way back. People use to pay him $$$ in Beverly Hills just to get a rinse. One of his staple products in his line for the past 7 years is an AVC Shampoo and Rinse.

Just thought I'd let you know.

ETA
He was also one of the first to incorporate shea butter into his products. Again, he's been a no heat low heat ambassador for 10 years

OP you do have lovely hair!

 

[hothair]

Like a previous poster said they wouldn't be on their marketing game if they weren't aware of LHCF and others...also if you google quite a number of products the forum comes up, I'm sure we've got LOADS of members in the hair care industry (not just stylists) actually Pak (Asian BSS) seems to have in stock stuff that we hype about when a few months before I KNOW they didn't...

 

[bravenewgirl87]

His ACV line is nothing new. He's been selling that for a good while now. i doubt they stole it from this board.

 

[MrsBKJ]

Like a previous poster said they wouldn't be on their marketing game if they weren't aware of LHCF and others...also if you google quite a number of products the forum comes up, I'm sure we've got LOADS of members in the hair care industry (not just stylists) actually Pak (Asian BSS) seems to have in stock stuff that we hype about when a few months before I KNOW they didn't...

I see your point. But I guess them stocking items now that they didnt know about before is similar to us buying items they have stocked for years and never bought...but maybe people are going in and asking for items so they click and think hmmmm this product = more money.
Pretty much everybody in the health and beauty industry is going towards natural and organic products because they sell...its what people want.
I know I had a phillip Kinsgley AVC spray ages ago before I even knew the benefits of it

 

[hothair]

I see your point. But I guess them stocking items now that they didnt know about before is similar to us buying items they have stocked for years and never bought...but maybe people are going in and asking for items so they click and think hmmmm this product = more money.
Pretty much everybody in the health and beauty industry is going towards natural and organic products because they sell...its what people want.
I know I had a phillip Kinsgley AVC spray ages ago before I even knew the benefits of it

I think information does filter down, I mean I had products like Aphogee, Nexxus, Khiel's, Redken, Bumble & Bumble etc but didn't have a method/ routine for using them Just a regular old PJ then I googled one of them and the same site my friend had been trying to get me on (LHCF) came up, I knew it was fate

 

[MrsBKJ]

I think information does filter down, I mean I had products like Aphogee, Nexxus, Khiel's, Redken, Bumble & Bumble etc but didn't have a method/ routine for using them Just a regular old PJ then I googled one of them and the same site my friend had been trying to get me on (LHCF) came up, I knew it was fate

lol
I agree with you, I had products but didnt have a routine either...
All I can say is Thank God for LHCF

 

[imstush]

ITA............


I hate to be a negative nelly and rain on the original thoughts....But! Frederick has been using AVC since way back. People use to pay him $$$ in Beverly Hills just to get a rinse. One of his staple products in his line for the past 7 years is an AVC Shampoo and Rinse.

Just thought I'd let you know.

ETA
He was also one of the first to incorporate shea butter into his products. Again, he's been a no heat low heat ambassador for 10 years

OP you do have lovely hair!

ITA

 

[sweetcashew]

I've said this before... I found LHCF in 2003 and 99% of the practices on this board I've known about since I was a child. Nothing new.
Frederick Fekkai and a lot of other 'non black' hairdressers have been giving really great hair advice for as long as I can remember. That's why for years I only used products directed to Caucasian hair.

 

[Soliel185]

uhm...I was not literally implying that Frederic Fekkai is somewhere at a Starbucks frantically scribbling notes from his laptop onto a tiny pad and having a personal ephinany about haircare. I was kidding. It just seems that more and more I'm seeing things that I first read about on the board in major magazines and the new "tip" of the week like somebody just invented it. Since I've joined I've started making my own hair products, I use store brought cheap con as a base for my DC and I use Lacio Lacio. Everything else is mixed and matched from the local grocery.

More and more as I read labels I notice that the "active ingredients" are things like avocado oil, apricot kernal oil, aloe, hydrolyzed silk or wheat - but they're alllllll the way down the list. Why am I going to go to the store and pay my hard earned cash for something with tiny fractions of these ingredients, when I can buy entire bottles of them and mix enough to last me a few months?? If I was Frederic I'd keep my mouth shut and the ACV to myself before MORE people start realizing the exact same thing!

 

[Soliel185]

Oh...what does OP mean? If you all are complimenting me then thank you . I'm alittle slow on the uptake sometimes.

 

[sweetcashew]

uhm...I was not literally implying that Frederic Fekkai is somewhere at a Starbucks frantically scribbling notes from his laptop onto a tiny pad and having a personal ephinany about haircare. I was kidding. It just seems that more and more I'm seeing things that I first read about on the board in major magazines and the new "tip" of the week like somebody just invented it. Since I've joined I've started making my own hair products, I use store brought cheap con as a base for my DC and I use Lacio Lacio. Everything else is mixed and matched from the local grocery.

More and more as I read labels I notice that the "active ingredients" are things like avocado oil, apricot kernal oil, aloe, hydrolyzed silk or wheat - but they're alllllll the way down the list. Why am I going to go to the store and pay my hard earned cash for something with tiny fractions of these ingredients, when I can buy entire bottles of them and mix enough to last me a few months?? If I was Frederic I'd keep my mouth shut and the ACV to myself before MORE people start realizing the exact same thing!

We hear ya. Wasn't trying to be rude or anything. I think that what happens is that because you're into haircare you now notice things that you won't have noticed before.
It's like when you get a new pocket book all of a sudden you notice everyone with the same pocket book but won't have noticed it before you got it.

OP means Original poster.

 

[imstush]

Oh...what does OP mean? If you all are complimenting me then thank you . I'm alittle slow on the uptake sometimes.

Original Poster.

 

[LovelyLionessa]

Oh...what does OP mean? If you all are complimenting me then thank you . I'm alittle slow on the uptake sometimes.

OP= Original poster

Your hair is lovely!!

 

[vslady]

uhm...I was not literally implying that Frederic Fekkai is somewhere at a Starbucks frantically scribbling notes from his laptop onto a tiny pad and having a personal ephinany about haircare. I was kidding. It just seems that more and more I'm seeing things that I first read about on the board in major magazines and the new "tip" of the week like somebody just invented it. Since I've joined I've started making my own hair products, I use store brought cheap con as a base for my DC and I use Lacio Lacio. Everything else is mixed and matched from the local grocery.

More and more as I read labels I notice that the "active ingredients" are things like avocado oil, apricot kernal oil, aloe, hydrolyzed silk or wheat - but they're alllllll the way down the list. Why am I going to go to the store and pay my hard earned cash for something with tiny fractions of these ingredients, when I can buy entire bottles of them and mix enough to last me a few months?? If I was Frederic I'd keep my mouth shut and the ACV to myself before MORE people start realizing the exact same thing!

ITA w/ya OP. Every month I read in Essence about tips that sound like they come straight from LHCF. I've been reading Essence for many, many years and always enjoyed the hair and makeup section but it is only recently that Essence is recommending healthy hair practices.

 

[gymfreak336]

ITA w/ya OP. Every month I read Essence that have tips that sound like they come straight from LHCF. I've been reading Essencefor many, many years and always enjoyed the hair and makeup section but it is only recently that Essence is recommending healthy hair practices.

I have noticed that too.

Truth be told, if a company really wanted to make a kick ass line of products, we should be the testers.

 

[sprungonhairboards]

I've said this before... I found LHCF in 2003 and 99% of the practices on this board I've known about since I was a child. Nothing new.
Frederick Fekkai and a lot of other 'non black' hairdressers have been giving really great hair advice for as long as I can remember. That's why for years I only used products directed to Caucasian hair.

I agree.

O/T your hair in your siggy is absolutely FABULOUS My goodness!

 

[ryanshope]

Oh...what does OP mean? If you all are complimenting me then thank you . I'm alittle slow on the uptake sometimes.

I was tryin to figure out who the heck is OP?...Duh...

 

[Nightingale]

I thought it was interesting that FF has a new Olive glossing line, but I have seen the same olive glossing proclaim shampoo in the BSS for atleast a year now. I don't use either, just wondered if the proclaim was better.

 

[Longhealthyhair]

Speaking of ACV rinses...

do you clarify after or before the prepoo? what's the sequence if you still want to prepoo and deep condition? Thanks in advance ladies.

 

[chica_canella]

I've said this before... I found LHCF in 2003 and 99% of the practices on this board I've known about since I was a child. Nothing new.
Frederick Fekkai and a lot of other 'non black' hairdressers have been giving really great hair advice for as long as I can remember. That's why for years I only used products directed to Caucasian hair.

Why is it that only a few hair companies marketed toward mainly black women, (Mizani, Affirm, etc) do well with our hair? It seems like "white" products work much better. I mean, if I wrote a list of all the good black hair care products and the good white ones (for black hair), there be far more good white products.

It makes you wonder who or what are they researching when they produce black hair care products.

 

[berry87]

if there going to use the board they should at least give a donation to it. Some funds to keep it going.

is there anything that we can do?
can anything be copy written?

I was thinking the same thing!! lol

 

[harrison]

Speaking of ACV rinses...

do you clarify after or before the prepoo? what's the sequence if you still want to prepoo and deep condition? Thanks in advance ladies.

I would like to know too... anyone???