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whosthatcurl said:
No I haven't done it yet, since my scalp is a bit sore from it being plastered to my head and me attempting to scratch it :lachen:

But I'm gonna use my regular relaxer Vitale Sensitive Scalp.
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Girl I removed braids, had a sore scalp, red bumps, etc.. I based the heck out of my scalp! Lol should have never gotten braids in the first place!
 
Hattache and this 25% off sale...with $10 shipping! Nawl! Lol. After a certain purchase limit, shipping should be free. She doesn't even discount it. It's not worth it to me to spend money to take advantage of a sale, then have the cost of everything jump back up when you factor in the shipping. It's not enough off for me. Maybe if I had a $200 cart, but nawl. This is skin and make up season. I'm not blowing money on haircare products that I just want to try rt now. Lol.
 
JerriBlank said:
Hattache and this 25% off sale...with $10 shipping! Nawl! Lol. After a certain purchase limit, shipping should be free. She doesn't even discount it. It's not worth it to me to spend money to take advantage of a sale, then have the cost of everything jump back up when you factor in the shipping. It's not enough off for me. Maybe if I had a $200 cart, but nawl. This is skin and make up season. I'm not blowing money on haircare products that I just want to try rt now. Lol.
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Say what now????
$10 shipping?????????
 
Destiny9109 said:
I'll probably be banned from LHCF for saying this lol, but I'm convinced that most neutralizing shampoos are just a marketing ploy.
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Sometimes I do too. If you look at the ingredients and compare it to most regular shampoos, they're very similar... all you have to do is compare the ph to make sure it's low enough.
 
Does anybody mold their hair down and sit under the dryer before they blow dry? My stylist used to do that to reduce blow drying time and to lock in Moisture. I use Nairobi wrap foam, since it speeds up drying time, stretches the hair out well, and has a heat protectant built in.
 
MileHighDiva said:
Are you relaxed? If so, don't you have to neutralize the relaxer?
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Yes, I'll be relaxing this weekend and yes relaxers have to be neutralized. I'm just not convinced there is a special neutralizing ingredient, the pH is most important.

shortdub78 said:
What makes you say that?
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Judging by some ingredient lists, I compared a moisturizing and neutralizing shampoo from the same line and they literally had identical ingredients. My stylist I went to for 6 years never used one(at first I didn't know because I wasn't into haircare)and my hair was very healthy.

Sharpened said:
You can use pH strips to see if they are 5 or lower.
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You're right, I'll order some. The Affirm Normalizing Shampoo has a pH of 6 and the 5 in 1 reconstructor you use before is 4.5, I'm not sure about other brands.
 
Destiny9109 said:
Yes, I'll be relaxing this weekend and yes relaxers have to be neutralized. I'm just not convinced there is a special neutralizing ingredient, the pH is most important.



Judging by some ingredient lists, I compared a moisturizing and neutralizing shampoo from the same line and they literally had identical ingredients. My stylist I went to for 6 years never used one(at first I didn't know because I wasn't into haircare)and my hair was very healthy.



You're right, I'll order some. The Affirm Normalizing Shampoo has a pH of 6 and the 5 in 1 reconstructor you use before is 4.5, I'm not sure about other brands.
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Ok I understand what you are saying. I agree if you use the same product line and it depends on the ph. ORS shampoo (creamy aloe) can be used to for maintenance, as well as a neutralizing shampoo.
But product line ingredients are meant to work together, so I wouldn't chance that with something outside of the relaxer product line.

And remember we don't know the percentages of the ingredients that are listed to see how the chemist determined what would used as neutralizer vs. a Moisturizing shampoo.
 
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Destiny9109 said:
Yes, I'll be relaxing this weekend and yes relaxers have to be neutralized. I'm just not convinced there is a special neutralizing ingredient, the pH is most important.



Judging by some ingredient lists, I compared a moisturizing and neutralizing shampoo from the same line and they literally had identical ingredients. My stylist I went to for 6 years never used one(at first I didn't know because I wasn't into haircare)and my hair was very healthy.



You're right, I'll order some. The Affirm Normalizing Shampoo has a pH of 6 and the 5 in 1 reconstructor you use before is 4.5, I'm not sure about other brands.
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You know that reconstructor is lower, so it can close the cuticle/smooth it down and the shampoo is 6 ( close to neutral level of 6) to help slightly open the cuticle to allow hydration and water to penetrate. Professional brands using have their levels listed on the bottle, or on the website.
 
I went to Sally's to return a product. I met 4 naturals there, and we stayed at Sally's for about 40 minutes swapping stories and helping each other.

I found a potential stylist. The one lady there who never does her own hair bought hundreds of dollars worth of Mane Choice. I hope they work! Her hair shrinks majorly and is MBL about, stretched. She spends a lot at the salon, refusing to even try doing her hair herself in sections. She says that's already too much.

She has me REALLY excited about her stylist. There is a long waiting list, and she grows hair out very healthy and long, based on her photo gallery.
 
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shortdub78 said:
Does anybody mold their hair down and sit under the dryer before they blow dry? My stylist used to do that to reduce blow drying time and to lock in Moisture. I use Nairobi wrap foam, since it speeds up drying time, stretches the hair out well, and has a heat protectant built in.
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I love Nairobi wrap foam, I didn't know it had a built in heat protectant. Thanks for that! I am going to use it for molding when I blow it out next week.
 
Cattypus1 said:
I love Nairobi wrap foam, I didn't know it had a built in heat protectant. Thanks for that! I am going to use it for molding when I blow it out next week.
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Yes! It's heat activated! Can be prior to heat styling!
My hair is dry now, and I'm debating to flat iron tonight, or tomorrow.
 
shortdub78 said:
Does anybody mold their hair down and sit under the dryer before they blow dry? My stylist used to do that to reduce blow drying time and to lock in Moisture. I use Nairobi wrap foam, since it speeds up drying time, stretches the hair out well, and has a heat protectant built in.
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I never thought about doing that. I'm gonna try to remember that the next time I wash my hair.
 
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