For Colored Girls Only (Hair Coloring Support Thread)

[faithVA]

I just washed and my hair is under a plastic cap. I haven't looked yet to see how much additional color I've lost. I know I have to color next weekend. I'm hoping its not too bad today. Even if it is, I'm not trying to color today. I don't feel like doing my hair as it is.

 

[Janet']

Happy Hump Day!!!

This is how I'm wearing my hair right now since I cannot deal with it (I can't be on my feet for 6 weeks). My friend comes over and re-braids for me every week and a half. She's trying to figure out how she can wash my hair and deep condition it for me but I'm looking at her like , I know that you have a license (cosmetology and such) but I don't trust you with my hair ...But, "I do love you and I appreciate everything that you have done for me..." I just can't!!!

OAN: This is why I am in this support group!!! I'm in my mid-30s and do you see ALL the grey????? This is why I color/dye ladies!!! I'm dying over here!!!

 

[Beany]

I did a rinse/semi-permanent color yesterday ONLY because it's DS1's birthday party this weekend and I wanted to cover these grays for pictures. I used some left over Jazzing rinse that I've had for awhile (probably a few years). I sat under the dryer for about 30 minutes, then my bff called and we talked for like an hour. Longer story short, I left the color in my hair for approximately an hour and a half (I got good coverage lol). I rinsed and applied my DC. Currently DCing overnight with SM Manuka honey masque. I really just need the color to last a week, I don't expect anything else from rinses/semis.

@Janet' , I like your hair! I feel you, I'm in my early 30's and started graying in my early 20's. I side eye my mama and these genes OFTEN.

 

[Janet']

I did a rinse/semi-permanent color yesterday ONLY because it's DS1's birthday party this weekend and I wanted to cover these grays for pictures. I used some left over Jazzing rinse that I've had for awhile (probably a few years). I sat under the dryer for about 30 minutes, then my bff called and we talked for like an hour. Longer story short, I left the color in my hair for approximately an hour and a half (I got good coverage lol). I rinsed and applied my DC. Currently DCing overnight with SM Manuka honey masque. I really just need the color to last a week, I don't expect anything else from rinses/semis.

@Janet' , I like your hair! I feel you, I'm in my early 30's and started graying in my early 20's. I side eye my mama and these genes OFTEN.

Yes, I started greying a 19! Le Sigh!! The struggle is very real!!

 

[Beany]

https://m.mic.com/articles/142083/a..._medium=health&utm_campaign=social#.qLkZ4GIFb

A cure for gray hair may be on the horizon. I'm mobile so I couldn't copy and paste the body of the article. I'll try to do it when I get to a desktop (or if someone else can do it, that would be great ).


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A Scientific Breakthrough Could Lead to a Cure for Gray Hair and Vitiligo
By Jordyn Taylor 21 hours ago
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A drug to prevent graying hair may be closer than ever before.

Scientists at NYU Langone Medical Center think they know where our gray hair comes from. In a study published inCell Reports, they identified two molecular signals linked to the growth of cells called melanocytes, which produce the pigment that colors our hair and skin.

Now that they've pinpointed those molecular signals, it means we can target them in future treatments for pigmentation disorders like gray hair and vitiligo, a press release stated.

"This is a novel understanding of how these stem cells for hair pigmentation are regulated," researcher Mayumi Ito, an associate professor in the Ronald O. Perelman Department of Dermatology at NYU Langone, said in a phone call Thursday.

"This definitely is a necessary step toward developing a new strategy to cure gray hair."

Source: Axel Schmidt/AP
It could help treat vitiligo, too: Vitiligo is a condition wherein "white patches of skin appear on different parts of the body," according to the National Institutes of Health, and it occurs when your immune system destroys the melanocytes in your skin. It affects approximately 1% of the world's population — or 50 million people — according to Vitiligo Support International.

One notable person with vitiligo wasMichael Jackson. Another is Winnie Harlow, the 21-year-old model who appeared on the 21st cycle of America's Next Top Model and, more recently, inBeyoncé's Lemonade.

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The study: The researchers ran a number of experiments on melanocyte stem cells from mice, Ito explained. The cells were controlled by signals from two places: the endothelin receptor type B and Wnt signaling pathways.

When the researchers bred mice to have EdnrB pathway deficiencies, the rodents "experienced premature graying of their fur," according to the release.

"The mice that normally had black hair turned into grayish mice," Ito said. "They look like old people, with gray hair."

Conversely, when they stimulated the mice's EdnrB pathways, it produced a "15-fold increase in melanocyte stem cell pigment production within two months," the release said. This time, the rodents' skin showed signs of "hyperpigmentation," meaning their wounded skin became darker after healing.

Finally, when researchers blocked the mice's Wnt signaling — even when the mice had functioning EdnrB pathways — it stopped the rodents' stem cells from maturing into melanocytes.

"This led to mice with unpigmented grayish coats," the release said.

Mice with black fur became more gray.
Source: Cell Reports
The future: Treating vitiligo isn't exactly easy. "Many treatments can have unwanted side effects," according to theNIH. "Treatments can take a long time, and sometimes they don't work." Currently, the NIH lists topical and oral medications, skin grafts, tattoos and concealing makeup as possible treatment options.

If scientists can eventually find ways to activate those signaling pathways in humans with vitiligo, the melanocyte stem cells could migrate to the surface of their skin and re-pigment it, Ito explained.

"That's what we have shown in mice," she said, "but if it happens in humans, I think that it would be great. It's something that we would like to at."

More research would be needed to ensure those future treatments wouldn't lead to uncontrolled cell growth, which results in melanoma.

And as for gray hair, the findings could eventually produce options for folks who don't want to go gray, but who are allergic to hair dye.

It's still too early for Ito to predict exactly what form a gray hair drug would take. Perhaps an oral pill?

"That," Ito said, "would be great."


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[faithVA]

^^That would be nice. Thanks for posting the article Beany.

I think on the horizon means 10 years But at least someone in the future would benefit.

In the meantime I will be doing a semi-permanent rinse tomorrow.

I was talking to my girlfriend and she said she has no problem doing a rinse and then shampooing her hair. Why can't that be me

 

[Evolving78]

I really need to color my hair! I'm going to bleach it, then tone it. I washed and conditioned it yesterday. I put my hair in twists to stretch it a little. Im not coloring my entire head. Just sticking to the front. I will do a light trim afterwards as well. Wish me luck ladies!

 

[faithVA]

I cannot get consistent results with my rinse. I do it one time and the results are great. The next time the color bleeds. I don't know what I'm doing wrong.

I think I need to figure out a way to cool my head down. Maybe having my bathroom too warm is not working for me. I put on a plastic cap after rinsing the color yesterday and that is definitely a mistake. I rinsed in cool water but I may need even cooler water.

Back to the drawing board.

 

[Evolving78]

So now I'm on step three of changing my color. I'm going with the red/copper look. I'm deep conditioning my hair now. I have bleached, toned, but I need to add some color to the very front. So I'm going to run and get some red.

 

[Janet']

@Beany, Interesting article...I have a small patch of vitiligo that I've had since a small child and it hasn't spread (thankfully) and I have greys for days...this would be awesome!

 

[MileHighDiva]

I cannot get consistent results with my rinse. I do it one time and the results are great. The next time the color bleeds. I don't know what I'm doing wrong.

I think I need to figure out a way to cool my head down. Maybe having my bathroom too warm is not working for me. I put on a plastic cap after rinsing the color yesterday and that is definitely a mistake. I rinsed in cool water but I may need even cooler water.

Back to the drawing board.

DontSpeakDefeat, says that Redken EQ Color Shades is the best rinse for gray coverage. You should inbox her,

 

[Evolving78]

I finished coloring my hair... The front is going to get light in a week, or so. It's kinda funky, it's cool.

 

[janaq2003]

Gotta touch up my color.. my spot where I like to part my hair is full of grays. I have grays throughout my hair.

 

[faithVA]

DontSpeakDefeat, says that Redken EQ Color Shades is the best rinse for gray coverage. You should inbox her,

Thanks I may do that. She may have some tips for low porosity hair. The rinse isn't sticking to any of my hair, gray or otherwise.

 

[Evolving78]

Thanks I may do that. She may have some tips for low porosity hair. The rinse isn't sticking to any of my hair, gray or otherwise.

Do you use a sulfate shampoo before your apply your rinse?

Would you consider highlights? Like using the grey as the highlights and go with a reddish brown color? Red stains, and takes longer to fade. You can use red conditioners too to help.

 

[Evolving78]

I'm deep conditioning my hair again. I decided to add a little more red. I'm confortable with the color now. Now I need to decided on how to style it!

 

[faithVA]

Do you use a sulfate shampoo before your apply your rinse?

Would you consider highlights? Like using the grey as the highlights and go with a reddish brown color? Red stains, and takes longer to fade. You can use red conditioners too to help.

I have used a sulfate free shampoo. I didn't this time. I did a mudwash first.

I don't think I can do the highlights because most of my gray is at the hairline. And it's not an issue with the grays not being colored. The color slides off all of my hair so the issue isn't the gray.

I will do the sulfate shampoo again next time and see if my results are better.

 

[Janet']

Hi Ladies!! Just checking in...My hair is still braided up...I'm still unable to put my weight on my foot so it's left me pretty immobile...But, on the bright side- maybe this was a Hide Your Hair challenge in the making...Coconut oil has been my best friend... I hope everyone is doing well! OHHHHHHH, and the greys are pizzoping!

 

[KinksAndInk]

Itching to color again. Wanting to go red so I may go pick up a box of SM bright auburn. But it may be a bit pointless since I'm just cowashing and wet bunning every day. I'll give this a bit more thought. But I'm definitely going red in the fall.

 

[ajargon02]

Itching to color again. Wanting to go red so I may go pick up a box of SM bright auburn. But it may be a bit pointless since I'm just cowashing and wet bunning every day. I'll give this a bit more thought. But I'm definitely going red in the fall.

I used sm in bright auburn last October to color. I used heat under a cap for 30-40 min and got the most beautiful color! I was very happy! HOWEVER, sm left my hair kinda dry and hard even after using the poo and condish it came with. My hair hates sm products anyway though.
It took a couple of dc sessions to get my hair feel normal again.

 

[KinksAndInk]

I used sm in bright auburn last October to color. I used heat under a cap for 30-40 min and got the most beautiful color! I was very happy! HOWEVER, sm left my hair kinda dry and hard even after using the poo and condish it came with. My hair hates sm products anyway though.
It took a couple of dc sessions to get my hair feel normal again.

I use their light blonde now and have been for 3 or so years. Never had any issues, not even when I colored twice in 3 weeks. It actually makes my hair softer. I may not go red then if it causes dryness. I'll probably do my blonde once more and then use a red rinse.

 

[ajargon02]

I use their light blonde now and have been for 3 or so years. Never had any issues, not even when I colored twice in 3 weeks. It actually makes my hair softer. I may not go red then if it causes dryness. I'll probably do my blonde once more and then use a red rinse.

I like sebastian colorshines. It brightened up my color and leaves my hair really soft. It just coats and there's no peroxide or ammonia

 

[KinksAndInk]

I like sebastian colorshines. It brightened up my color and leaves my hair really soft. It just coats and there's no peroxide or ammonia

Thanks. I'll look into that one. I haven't rinsed my hair since middle school (a million years ago) so I have no idea what's the best rinse now.

 

[Honey Bee]

I'm seeing more greys but, since I'm on a personal crochet braid challenge, they don't bother me too much. That may change once I start wearing my real hair everyday.

@faithVA , I wonder if a forcible opening and closing of the cuticle might help your dye stick better. They make special hair coloring products for closing the cuticle, but I don't think I've seen one for opening it. Maybe baking soda, like in a Cherry Lola?

 

[ajargon02]

@faithVA , I wonder if a forcible opening and closing of the cuticle might help your dye stick better. They make special hair coloring products for closing the cuticle, but I don't think I've seen one for opening it. [/QUOTE]

Heat will open the cuticle and pH 4-5 will help in closing it.

 

[faithVA]

I'm seeing more greys but, since I'm on a personal crochet braid challenge, they don't bother me too much. That may change once I start wearing my real hair everyday.

@faithVA , I wonder if a forcible opening and closing of the cuticle might help your dye stick better. They make special hair coloring products for closing the cuticle, but I don't think I've seen one for opening it. Maybe baking soda, like in a Cherry Lola?

Thanks. I'm trying some of everything. I bought the ION precolor but I'm not sure it helps.

I read somewhere to try a diluted ACV rinse after I apply the color and probably every time I wash. I'm going to try that soon.

 

[Evolving78]

Thanks. I'm trying some of everything. I bought the ION precolor but I'm not sure it helps.

I read somewhere to try a diluted ACV rinse after I apply the color and probably every time I wash. I'm going to try that soon.

Have you tried a different brand?

 

[faithVA]

Have you tried a different brand?

I have. This is my 5th brand. It is the only one so far that covered my grays so I just stuck with it.

I know I've tried given and the one that comes in a light brown bottle. Something in a pink bottle. My neighbor bought me something. I can't remember names unfortunately. I know the bottles when I see them.

Any suggestions for a brand?

 

[ZapMami]

@faithVA have you tried Kenra demi permanent?

 

[maxineshaw]

I colored my hair a few weeks ago with permanent dye. It was a cherry cola color by John Frieda. It didn't really take and made me want to go back to not ever coloring my hair.

The only thing I'm happy about is that it didn't dry my hair out.

Perhaps I will try again in the future. However, for now I have decided to focus on getting this breakage and split ends under control (not hair dye related).

I may just use rinses every now and again.