Are beauticians really on our side?

[Lilmama1011]

This question is for the ladies/gentlemen who do their hair mostly at home and take pride in doing their hair and will by anything to maintain healthy hair, which I think is everyone on here or you wouldn't have subscribed lol. Have you ever went to a salon out the blue and they say something is wrong like "o it's breaking off" and this is what you need and you get highly offended because you do everything you can? And then your like it doesn't break when I'm at home! Are they really on our side or just trying to get the extra money and has this happened to any of you?

 

[kinkycurlygurl]

This question is for the ladies/gentlemen who do their hair mostly at home and take pride in doing their hair and will by anything to maintain healthy hair, which I think is everyone on here or you wouldn't have subscribed lol. Have you ever went to a salon out the blue and they say something is wrong like "o it's breaking off" and this is what you need and you get highly offended because you do everything you can? And then your like it doesn't break when I'm at home! Are they really on our side or just trying to get the extra money and has this happened to any of you?

I think it really depends on where you go. I was never a regular at any salon so I think I usually got milked for as much as possible. I think most beauticians are trained in hair styling, and by styling I mean cut and color, or weaving. I don't think most of them are trained in maintaining healthy hair.

 

[Jas123]

i don't think i can just say either or... i think YES some are out to just make money... some will want to sabotage our hair length and some are just plain ignorant on healthy hair care... but on the other hand there are great stylist who are knowledgeable and will take great care of your hair... unfortunately, they seem to be few and far between... for me personally i choose to do my own hair because i'm the best thing that ever happened to my hair...

 

[RENIBELL]

This question is for the ladies/gentlemen who do their hair mostly at home and take pride in doing their hair and will by anything to maintain healthy hair, which I think is everyone on here or you wouldn't have subscribed lol. Have you ever went to a salon out the blue and they say something is wrong like "o it's breaking off" and this is what you need and you get highly offended because you do everything you can? And then your like it doesn't break when I'm at home! Are they really on our side or just trying to get the extra money and has this happened to any of you?

, they have never been on my side, i Always got told its Breaking and needs a good trim. Get Offered BKT allthe Time as it will make it more manageable, . they are usually quite shocked at what i have achieved at home on my own.This is my personal experience, andthats why my three daughters do not know what the inside of a salon looks like. I though need a break from time to time. I have Heard of Stylist on here that are great though, so i know they are not all bad,just havent found a good one yet

 

[EbonyCPrincess]

Even after 2 years into my HHJ, I was a firm believer that professional services are best left to the professionals. I actually still believe that a little bit...kinda. But since I have been unable to find a GREAT stylist since moving from home in 2006 and recently returned to self relaxing, I doubt I'll ever return. My results are far better. However, I will say that when I go to certain stylists they compliment me on how well I do my own hair, its health and its growth. I get the utmost respect for my hair knowledge and know-how from my home stylist and the one I was previously visiting regularly. So even though they may not treat your hair as well as you'd want them to, I would have to say they are not all always against us or out to get us. In fact there have been times I've had a stylist tell me I didn't even need a trim. I think its partially up to YOU to search until you find a good stylist. I liken it to searching for a good church home....you may visit a ton, but its not like you're just gonna quit saying all churches are crap. You keep looking until you find one that works for you. The thing is, unlike church...we can get the same results on our own!

 

[CurlsBazillion]

I agree that not all stylist are bad at what they do but the trial and error it takes to find one ain't worth looking.

 

[shasha8685]

I don't think they are out to get us....I just think the large majority are ignorant to proper hair care. Too many times I have been told that "my grade of hair needs to be relaxed ever 4 weeks" or "my grade of hair needs a super relaxer." Too many times relaxer has been left in my hair even when I said it started to burn. I've seen the over processing of someone's hair, the recommendation of poor quality products, etc.

It takes time to find someone who is knowledgeable about hair care but I don't think it's a vast conspiracy.

 

[Your Cheeziness]

In my experience, I haven't met one that is out to intentionally hinder progress or whatever.My stylist suggests trims as needed and even suggested a hard protein when my hair was acting a fool and I had no idea why. Turns out she was right. And remember, you have the option of declining an offered service.

Also, I keep in mind that I can never see the back of my head and while I take into consideration any recommended services, I still have the final say so. Your hair will eventually tell you who is right.

 

[Britt]

I think it really depends on where you go. I was never a regular at any salon so I think I usually got milked for as much as possible. I think most beauticians are trained in hair styling, and by styling I mean cut and color, or weaving. I don't think most of them are trained in maintaining healthy hair.

Yeppppp... it's a gem finding someone that is really concerned about hair health. There are some hairdressers that are really into caring for the hair and have a love for hair.

 

[danysedai]

It's hard to find a stylist who is willing to work with you. Mine passed away and although she only did my relaxers. even finding a new stylist just for that is almost impossible in my city. So I started doing my own. I do all the rest, dye, dust ends, rollersets, flat iron, etc.
I don't think all stylist are against us, but finding a great hairdresser is v. hard.

 

[SummerSolstice]

This question is for the ladies/gentlemen who do their hair mostly at home and take pride in doing their hair and will by anything to maintain healthy hair, which I think is everyone on here or you wouldn't have subscribed lol. Have you ever went to a salon out the blue and they say something is wrong like "o it's breaking off" and this is what you need and you get highly offended because you do everything you can? And then your like it doesn't break when I'm at home! Are they really on our side or just trying to get the extra money and has this happened to any of you?

I learned most of my hair practices from here and online, so as a stylist... I can't relate
And no, most stylists don't learn to cut color and style in hair school. I learned that behind the chair. I learned how to sass a hood rat while I was in hair school... and sterilize my implements... thats really it. And I would bet money most stylists agree, unless they went somewhere like Aveda or Paul Mitchell.

 

[lilyofthenile]

My experience is that the way they treat your hair isn't always down to jealousy or someone having something against you.

In my experience, some beauticians are simply ignorant towards haircare. Also style is put over health and that's what a lot of them focus on.

 

[GulfCoastChica]

Depends on the beautician.

Mine is great. She recommended great products for me to use years ago because she noticed my hair was always extra dry when I can in. Also, there were times when I wanted color and she told me to hold off because she didn't think my hair was ready yet.

She is great at styling but also watches the overall health and condition of my hair.

 

[Chameleonchick]

I don't think that all stylists are bad. As I have worked with them. But even out of the ones I worked with I would say about 3/4s of them were interested in two things high turnover and money. They would constantly up sell even if it wasn't to the benefit of the client. I have worked in white salons and hispanic salons only one black salon. So it really is across the board. I only wanted to add that in because I hear people say that overbooking only happens at black salons when that isn't true at all. Its universal.

 

[KiWiStyle]

I just recently realized why professional stylists don't really practice HHC.

1. It takes far too much time. DC (steam or dry heat) and special treatment like heavy protein all take way too much time and cuts into their client rotation. Less clients per day = less money per day.

2. Product Selection. If they bought quality natural products and high quality tools, stylist would have to charge more for services in order to earn a decent profit/salary. Cheaper & poor quality products = more money in their pockets.

3. I also agree that some stylists Just Don't Know any better. My sister has done my hair all my life before and after licensure, although she believes in her practices, she just didn't know there was an alternative. I trusted her because she went to school and after I started my HHJ last year, I quickly learned she was ignorant to most facts on how to grow healthy relaxed hair. As with anything else in your life, you must do your own research and do what's best for you. Stylist usually adhere to a "fit one, fit all" rule and this really is unfortunate. The bottom line is, the all mighty dollar is top priority over HHC practices. For now on, I'm go to the salon for my relaxers and trims only!!

 

[havilland]

I have been to great hair care professionals and I have been to scalp-tress "stylists".

I like being able to trust my stylist now. But it is rare to find someone knowleageable.

 

[diadall]

For those of you who just want nice hair done by someone else with no fuss, I have had great success at blow bars. They have decent products and they don't cut.

 

[SimJam]

I really dont think all stylists are against healthy hair. I think for the most part they are ill informed (through traditional schooling)

The ladies at salon I go to are pretty good, but for me they just dont have the patience or time to do my hair like I do (particularly with regards to detangling) so I normally wash, DC and detangle my hair before going there for them just to style.

what I do like about them is that they put up with all my requests

 

[My Friend]

I think you (we) as clients have to understand industry.

Hairstylists = A person who styles hair. People on hair forums expect more because we learned a lot on the board. Nothing that we learned on these boards are taught in hair schools

It's not the schools fault either, they teach stylists how to style hair. Stylist's are also taught to ask for a trim evey visit. You don't have to get it. Build a professional relationship with a professional stylist and you should be ok.

Years ago I told my ex stylist, I never want a trim, so please don't ask me anymore. She never asked again.

For a stylist to implement HH techniques they would have to increase their prices. Natural services take longer to complete than relaxed styles

We can't blame or expect stylist to lower their prices becaue WE feel the service isnt worth it Some stylist spend 15k-30k to attend school, they have to pay every year for update classes, license renewal, and insurances.

Because we grew up doing hair in the kitchen, on the porch and in the basement we put less value on the service but we will spend $300 for human hair

Stylists are people who are in business. They are in business to make money. So when they schedule time to see you, they want to make money.

When you go to the Dr. he may or may not give you a prescription but regardless you have to pay your co pay and your insurance company has to pay his rate.

I say if you know how to do x style/service at home then do it. If you want someone else to do then don't get upset about their rates

 

[topnotch1010]

I agree with My Friend. We may love to do hair, but we are a business and the goal of any business is to make money. Even with that being said, they way I keep my clients coming back is to respect their hair and keep it growing.

 

[BlkMane]

I've been coloring my hair off and on since my mid-teens, relaxed my Mom's hair pretty consistently her entire life from the time I was 14, and have given myself trims consistently and even relaxed it myself 3-4 times in the past. I do all maintenance of my hair. For me, salons have only been for difficult color jobs, major style changes and relaxers (when my Mother couldn't do it for me).

My experience with hairdressers has been "pleasant", but in all my experiences I think I can count with one FINGER the hairstylists that I would consider "HEALTHY hair maintainers". Most stylists are about the moment, they want you to leave their chair looking good, but don't give you much info about maintaining great-looking and healthy hair.

I've also experienced stylists telling me there was something wrong with my hair if I stopped going to them for a while..."your hair looks dry; you have been using the curling iron a lot"..."your ends look bad"..."this haircut is not even", etc. In almost 95% of those situations when they comment on my hair, their observation has been complete BS. Really. They were really just trying to get me to come in more often and not just for relaxers.

In my opinion, I've learned everything I know about healthy hair from all kinds of sources, but not from hairdressers. But, I do appreciate their skill as they make my hair look good for the moment.