Collagen... hard or not?

[Neith]

Is collagen considered to be a light or heavy protein type conditioner?

I did a search, but came up with nothing...

 

[Irresistible]

I consider it to be one of the harder ones

 

[ms.blue]

bump:

 

[IDareT'sHair]

Thanks for Bumping....

I'd like to know too.

I have a bottle of Schwarkopf Collagen Conditioner I plan to use for Co-Washing.....need to do more research before I use it....

If I don't find any sufficient information, I will definitely follow up with a moisturizing DC'er.

 

[sqzbly1908]

I consider it a "hard" - as it is namely found in the more "intense" protein treatments...

Emergencee
Ultra Sheen Duo Tex
Aphogee 2 Step

 

[Minty]

I considered it a mid-weight protein. But when in the formulations sqzbly.. noted above, it bumps it up heavy.

If it is the only protein in the formulation, I see no reason to follow up with a moisture as it also aids in elasticity and there should be moisturizers in the conditioner. Anything other than that - basically would be case by case.

I'm also learning of other chemical compounds that are proteins also, but I'm still working on this.

A moisturizing rinse certainly wouldn't hurt if in doubt.

,,,IDTH: I saw that cond. in the store today (on break), I didn't read the ingred. but I'd say it should be safe if collagen is a stand alone protein and there are humectants/moisturizers which will bind to the strand.

 

[ms.blue]

I used a collegen deep conditioner which I believe is stronger than the other collegen deep conditioner that I normally used so I believe what sqzbly1908 says about formulations.

 

[IDareT'sHair]

,,,IDTH: I saw that cond. in the store today (on break), I didn't read the ingred. but I'd say it should be safe if collagen is a stand alone protein and there are humectants/moisturizers which will bind to the strand.

I went back and re-read about it on the Schwarzkopf Site. It is the 2nd Step of a 2 Step Process.

The First step is the Enzyme Conditioner that you comb through, leave on for 5-10 minutes Rinse. The Collagen, you apply the same way after the Enzyme application 5-10 minutes Rinse. I will still use a moisturizing DC (of some sort) afterwards.

I will try it out about 8 weeks post. I do have both Steps 1 and 2 but wasn't exactly sure how to use it. (Thought about using them separately but they're meant to be used together

That's Why: Reading is Fundamental! I woulda' messed up something.....

Thanks OP for This Thread.

 

[ms.blue]

I went back and re-read about it on the Schwarzkopf Site. It is the 2nd Step of a 2 Step Process.

The First step is the Enzyme Conditioner that you comb through, leave on for 5-10 minutes Rinse. The Collagen, you apply the same way after the Enzyme application 5-10 minutes Rinse. I will still use a moisturizing DC (of some sort) afterwards.

I will try it out about 8 weeks post. I do have both Steps 1 and 2 but wasn't exactly sure how to use it. (Thought about using them separately but they're meant to be used together

That's Why: Reading is Fundamental! I woulda' messed up something.....

Thanks OP for This Thread.

Your right reading is fundamental

 

[Chameleonchick]

hydrolyzed collagen is in the 2 step (aphogee) treatment so I would say it is heavy.

 

[nymane]

I guess it depends in on the formulation because I consider Aphogee Two-Step to be a hardcore protein, but Lekair Cholesterol also has collagen and that's pretty moisturizing.

 

[Minty]

please keep me posted on that 2 step, because I was ready to purchase.

 

[IDareT'sHair]

please keep me posted on that 2 step, because I was ready to purchase.

It will be a while before I get around to using it. But....when I do, I'll let you know.

You'll prolly have it by then

If they have it, look at the Schwarzkopf Bonacure Smooth Express (in a box of 8) It is really, really nice.

 

[halee_J]

I was thinking about this the otherday while choosing which DC to use. IA with Hijabiflygirl; I think it depends on the concentration in the product. It does aid in increasing hair's elasticity and moisture binding.

In lesser amounts like in ORS repleneishing and Nairobi humecta-sil it can be moisturizing. A litlle bit more it becomes like a mild/medium protein, like Aphogee 2minute reconstructor and Alfaparf nourishing cream. In high amounts it can be a hard core reconstructor like Aphogee 2 step and Nexxus Keraphix.

So I'd say pay attention to:

1. The 'keywords' on the label; like 'adds moisture' , 'improves elasticity', or rebuilds, repairs, reconstructs to determine whether its on the protein or moisture side.

2. Where the collagen is in the product list.

3. (most important I think) How your hair feels. If it feels a bit stiff then follow up with a moisturizing conditioner.