Your hair touch your shoulders? Yo Daddy white?

[Nelli04]

I never thought SL was long because most black chicks where I lived had at least sl hair.
My hair was always between apl and grazing bsl...and it was very dark and thick. I did get asked what I was mixed with or people would tell me I was...but I never understood why. I always thought black hair could grow just as long as other hair

 

[joyfullylivinglife]

The "mixed" thing is so interesting to me. I mean, I am mixed.. my mom is white and has stick straight hair.
My hair, however, is kinky 4a and BSL . Funny that I have no rebuttal against the "your hair is long because you're mixed" thing, but meanwhile, my actual hair texture shows no signs of me being mixed with anything whatsoever. LOL

 

[FRESHstart101]

not taking away anything from your hair of course, but i mean IMO
i think shoulder length is average, i always considered APL or BSL
long. lmao the guys that you're talking about must live in a freaking
cage to consider SL lengthy. shooooot if SL can get you "Are you biracial"
questions then i bet they'd wonder if some long haired girls from this forum
had freakin' re- vitiligo (boondocks reference, just laugh) and were 100% Caucasian
lmao

 

[Janet']

OP,

I feel your pain...I had an acquaintance whom I hadn't seen since November. Well, I saw her in July after I had just gotten my hair flat ironed and she went back and told a mutual friend that I had the most un-natural looking weave in my head because there is no way that my hair went from SL to BSB (my terms not hers) in a matter of months...When my friend checked her and told her that it was my hair- she broke out with the "but she's dark skinned, how could her hair grow that fast" and said that until she could touch it, she wouldn't believe it!!! It was absolutely he-lar-e-ous to me how ignorant this broad was (and is)...and It makes me excited because the next time she sees me, I'll be heading towards WL and she will really have the "Whaa-Whaa" look!!!

 

[LadyPaniolo]

The whole concept of mixed=long hair is so ridiculous. My mom is white, my hair is 4a. It looked TORN UP, just raggedy beyond belief till I hit 22 and learned how to take care of it.

I'd say MOST of the mixed chicks with the same mix (black dad, white mom) that I have met do not have the healthiest heads of hair from the jump. MOST of the chicks in that paradigm had some clueless moms and looked like nobody knew how to care for their hair, because it was true.

Yeah, some girls get a type 3 and don't get as much breakage, but even those girls can struggle with tangling and dryness that lead to breakage, from lack of knowledge.

eta: also, when I see a black woman with pale yellow skin and green eyes, I assume there is SOME racial admixture there, at some point in her bloodline. Whether she's East African and mixed with Arab, or maybe she's American and a white man got in the mix 3-4 generations back. Most AAs came here from West Africa, where the people are very dark. If your family came from Sierra Leone 4 generations back and now you have red hair and blue eyes... I think a white man left his calling card.

 

[Chocolatelove2010]

My mother's hair is to her tailbone, and she has what you would call 'indian' hair. Most of the females in my family have that type of hair. Due to lack of knowledge, and care for my hair.. it's always been at APL, and to me that's not long hair because I see my female relatives strutting around with BSL and ML.. hair.

I think a lot of people think there's only one look to being black, and if you look any different you must have some sort of mix.

 

[DayStar]

I am dark skinned. Before I cut my hair and started my natural hair journey, my hair was BSL...and I use to get weave checked...people burning their eyes in my head, tryna decipher if its a weave . We are our worst enemy. Even now, when I press my hair I get the "damn your hair grows fast" then they proceed to stare me down to see if its mine...

 

[C@ssandr@]

OP, Your hair is extremely luscious. I'd be asking stupid questions too

...and I've been a member for 2 years

 

[Mari-Cris]

OP,

I feel your pain...I had an acquaintance whom I hadn't seen since November. Well, I saw her in July after I had just gotten my hair flat ironed and she went back and told a mutual friend that I had the most un-natural looking weave in my head because there is no way that my hair went from SL to BSB (my terms not hers) in a matter of months...When my friend checked her and told her that it was my hair- she broke out with the "but she's dark skinned, how could her hair grow that fast" and said that until she could touch it, she wouldn't believe it!!! It was absolutely he-lar-e-ous to me how ignorant this broad was (and is)...and It makes me excited because the next time she sees me, I'll be heading towards WL and she will really have the "Whaa-Whaa" look!!!

Next time you see her, invite her to "feel" your hair for verification, and then tell her to join LHCF.

Hey, spread the word.

 

[natura87]

The whole concept of mixed=long hair is so ridiculous. My mom is white, my hair is 4a. It looked TORN UP, just raggedy beyond belief till I hit 22 and learned how to take care of it.

I'd say MOST of the mixed chicks with the same mix (black dad, white mom) that I have met do not have the healthiest heads of hair from the jump. MOST of the chicks in that paradigm had some clueless moms and looked like nobody knew how to care for their hair, because it was true.

Yeah, some girls get a type 3 and don't get as much breakage, but even those girls can struggle with tangling and dryness that lead to breakage, from lack of knowledge.

eta: also, when I see a black woman with pale yellow skin and green eyes, I assume there is SOME racial admixture there, at some point in her bloodline. Whether she's East African and mixed with Arab, or maybe she's American and a white man got in the mix 3-4 generations back. Most AAs came here from West Africa, where the people are very dark. If your family came from Sierra Leone 4 generations back and now you have red hair and blue eyes... I think a white man left his calling card.

LMBO!!! I don't know why but this reminds me of my maternal family. Both of my grandparents are fair skinned and the first 4 kids came out looking just like them, the last looked not even remotely mixed in any way shape or form. Fast forward about 30 years and his youngest daughter looks Northern European. She still doesnt have any color but has a huge 3b/c fro. Genetics are funky like that.

 

[Lady S]

I'm surprised that don't automatically assume it's a weave.

I'm 1/8th elf and 3/8th jedi. The Force makes your hair grow long.

 

[ActionActress]

Ladies (& lurkers), forgive me, but I've been on this board so long, I've forgotten what other black people consider long hair. Was APL ever super long to anyone before this board? I've always thought APL on someone my height (5'2) is considered medium length. I attend community college, and there are a ton of thirsty homeboys just hanging around, looking to catch somebody. I swear half these guys aren't even registered at this school.

Anyway, I've been wearing my hair out recently, not even relaxer straight but in a fluffy bantu knot-out style, and my 4A edges revert the minute I step outside. Yet, the new pick-up line I'm hearing every day seems to be, "What are you mixed with?" (I do NOT look mixed.) Then, they act like I'm giving them an attitude when I say that I'm not. I'm like, you could at least ask if I am mixed at all. Plus, I don't care if you think I look mixed or not, that don't mean I want you, specially if you ain't takin' no classes! And if another dude asks me which color is my real color... C'mon son! You see my black new growth!

I've been a LHCF junkie so long that I've forgotten what "long hair" is on a black girl outside of this forum. Even if your hair touches your shoulders it means you must be indian on your daddy's side. I know it's always been said we can't grow our hair long, but between SL and APL? That's the best we can do? C'mon maaayyyne! I just think it's a shame that even when I reach WL, people will either assume I am biracial or that it must be fake. This sucks...

I must admit, I forgot also. Many think you are doing good for yourself if you hair brushes to tops of the shoulders . I have seen some women do a little swing thing after a fresh relaxer, one usually sees this strange behavior when out and about, like lean the head over to talk to someone and letting the side of the hair supposedly "swing."...LOL.

AA

 

[ActionActress]

I'm so tired of the regular Indian routine they have enough faux members as a result I try to be a bit more creative. I'm usually of Moorish decent mixed with 1/20th Hun, 1/16th Viking, and some other obscure ethnic group either real or imagined. With the imagined ones I usually ask them if they've heard of it and watch as the majority of men especially lie their butts off as they showcase their superior intellect. I find it's much easier to go along their stupid assertions than to argue with them.

LOL I am going to try this one!

AA

 

[ActionActress]

Everyone in the US ... nay the Western Hemisphere... is mixed with something. Show me someone who is not mixed, and I'll show you someone just off the boat from the old world... or the deep dark unexplored jungles of South America.

Amen! Speak it!!

AA

 

[ActionActress]

"Boy, you ain't know? My daddy got that Croatian blood!"

AA says....LOLOL!!

 

[ActionActress]

I think she was speaking of the plantation kind of African from slave days, as well as those whites who have been here a great while too. But I know what you mean.

AA

In response to second generation Africans posting. )

 

[ActionActress]

I'm surprised that don't automatically assume it's a weave.

I'm 1/8th elf and 3/8th jedi. The Force makes your hair grow long.[/QUOTE]

I will use this one too.
AA

I am also 1/16th Gelfling (The Dark Crystal)

 

[Kurlee]

The whole concept of mixed=long hair is so ridiculous. My mom is white, my hair is 4a. It looked TORN UP, just raggedy beyond belief till I hit 22 and learned how to take care of it.

I'd say MOST of the mixed chicks with the same mix (black dad, white mom) that I have met do not have the healthiest heads of hair from the jump. MOST of the chicks in that paradigm had some clueless moms and looked like nobody knew how to care for their hair, because it was true.

Yeah, some girls get a type 3 and don't get as much breakage, but even those girls can struggle with tangling and dryness that lead to breakage, from lack of knowledge.

eta: also, when I see a black woman with pale yellow skin and green eyes, I assume there is SOME racial admixture there, at some point in her bloodline. Whether she's East African and mixed with Arab, or maybe she's American and a white man got in the mix 3-4 generations back. Most AAs came here from West Africa, where the people are very dark. If your family came from Sierra Leone 4 generations back and now you have red hair and blue eyes... I think a white man left his calling card.

actually, sub saharan africans have the largest genetic variation and that includes skin colour. There are quite a few West African countries that have "light skinned people" and not because they are "mixed".

In response to the rest of thread, any time I have worn my hair curly or blown out, I get the weave accusations, followed by the "mixed" questions. It's real annoying, but i'm kinda desensitized to the ignorance at this point.

 

[Austro-Afrikana]

My dad is white with type 2 hair and my mum is black african with 4a/b hair and I have 4a hair...most mixed people I know have type 4 hair and it isn't long...

And my hair looked like this up until a few years ago lol:


People are just looking for excuses...

 

[PeaceFlow]

My dad is white with type 2 hair and my mum is black african with 4a/b hair and I have 4a hair...most mixed people I know have type 4 hair and it isn't long...

And my hair looked like this up until a few years ago lol:


People are just looking for excuses...

#

Your hair transformation! :wow:

 

[weaveadiva]

the title of this thread

 

[Netta1]

You know what... people are dumb all over the world....I just came back from Jamaica and people thought that my husband and I were Jamaican (our hair is loced)

 

[Valerie]

The sad truth is that a lot of black people have never, (or rarely) seen a black woman with long hair that wasn't weave. And if they did, the woman was usually biracial. Or looked it! I know that's been the case for me. In my family, the women whom I'd considered to have long hair, had hair that was about SL or a little longer.

On the other hand, a lot of the ladies here have grown some serious length and having been exposed to this, our ideas about length potential for black women have really changed! The same SL that I once considered long, is now just medium to me. I still consider APL pretty long though!

It's really sad I know, but it is what it is. I can just imagine how frustrating it is having all your hard work and dedication to your hair being chalked up to, "Oh, she must be mixed." Sadly, I don't see this type of ignorance coming to an end anytime soon.

I'd be surprised if even I, with my caramel brown skin will be able to have SL hair or longer without getting the "mixed" label slapped across my forehead! erplexed A lot of black people just don't know any better.

That is so true, and there is a lot of ignorance, I am from Guyanese heritage and my mother has something in her way back, however I have my father's hair, my mother's hair was type 4a, but my father's hair type 4b-c and it is grown long, thanks to Jesus and this board, again. Someone said to me, it is because I have something in me that is why my daughter and I have long hair, because of our Guyanese background and what about Nigerian girls, who don't have anything in them and yet there have long hair. People have to look after their hair, deep condition, it etc and people don't want to do that!

Unfortunately, there will be some people who will still remain ignorant.

 

[bludaydreamr]

When I was relaxed, a few times men asked me what nationality I was, It was like I had to convince them I was just AA.

 

[ebonylocs]

But people, all PC aside, it is true that most non-type 4 hair types have less trouble retaining length than we do. I'm too lazy to post the link but I once started a thread showing the results of a study where Loreal scientists had carried out elasticity tests on Asian, Caucasian and African hair (by placing weights on individual strands to see how heavy they could make the weight before the strand snapped), and no surprise, African hair was the least elastic and Asian hair the most elastic. Sooo, *in general* if we handle our hair with nonchalance, it is very easy to end up with broken off, damaged hair. And yes, this is true for everybody, yada yada, but it is even more so for us, that's just the truth.

And about the mixed thing, not all blacks in the Western Hemisphere have some mixed heritage, but a lot do - the average AA is 12.5% white, and that average varies from region to region up, to nearly 25% white in places like NOLA and LA. And of course it varies from person to person. So, if someone has pale skin and type 3 hair that retains length easily, I don't think we should be so contemptuous when others assume that they are "mixed." They can respond, "No, I'm Black", but Black in America encompasses a wide spectrum of genetic profiles, so the statement "I'm Black" doesn't really reveal everything about genetic origin IMO, and can be kind of disingenuous.

Of course, I do get OP's frustration. For example, I have an African friend who assumes my hair longish because people from the Caribbean are mixed. I keep trying to tell her that looking at the people while walking in downtown Kingston and most places in rural Jamaica you could be in Africa, but she isn't having it. It's just not possible in her mind. It's not even something to discuss. IMO there is a difference between thinking that other races generally have an easier time retaining length (true) and thinking that ALL BW with long hair are mixed with other races or that even with appropriate care BW can't grow their hair long (false).

 

[5aliji7elwati]

My dad is white with type 2 hair and my mum is black african with 4a/b hair and I have 4a hair...most mixed people I know have type 4 hair and it isn't long...

And my hair looked like this up until a few years ago lol:


People are just looking for excuses...

The American definition of mixed race is entirely different than the rest of the world's.

IMO African American people are not a "Black" people by definition. They are mixed race as a whole. African American is its own ethnic and cultural group, not "The Black Race".

So when those of us who are from other countries see this idea that "mixed people" are a certain skin color or hair texture it takes some getting used to.

 

[Chocolatelove2010]

The American definition of mixed race is entirely different than the rest of the world's.

IMO African American people are not a "Black" people by definition. They are mixed race as a whole. African American is its own ethnic and cultural group, not "The Black Race".

So when those of us who are from other countries see this idea that "mixed people" are a certain skin color or hair texture it takes some getting used to.

African American's are not black?

I'm curious.. What's black by your definition then?

 

[blue_flower]

Long hair to me is anything past shoulder length. And I'm not impressed by long hair that's thin, dry, and stiff looking. Ear length, shoulder length, bra-strap length- whatever. It needs to have some type of healthy sheen, body, and movement to it.

 

[vainღ♥♡jane]

Ladies (& lurkers), forgive me, but I've been on this board so long, I've forgotten what other black people consider long hair. Was APL ever super long to anyone before this board? I've always thought APL on someone my height (5'2) is considered medium length. I attend community college, and there are a ton of thirsty homeboys just hanging around, looking to catch somebody. I swear half these guys aren't even registered at this school.

Anyway, I've been wearing my hair out recently, not even relaxer straight but in a fluffy bantu knot-out style, and my 4A edges revert the minute I step outside. Yet, the new pick-up line I'm hearing every day seems to be, "What are you mixed with?" (I do NOT look mixed.) Then, they act like I'm giving them an attitude when I say that I'm not. I'm like, you could at least ask if I am mixed at all. Plus, I don't care if you think I look mixed or not, that don't mean I want you, specially if you ain't takin' no classes! And if another dude asks me which color is my real color... C'mon son! You see my black new growth!

I've been a LHCF junkie so long that I've forgotten what "long hair" is on a black girl outside of this forum. Even if your hair touches your shoulders it means you must be indian on your daddy's side. I know it's always been said we can't grow our hair long, but between SL and APL? That's the best we can do? C'mon maaayyyne! I just think it's a shame that even when I reach WL, people will either assume I am biracial or that it must be fake. This sucks...

apl was and still is long to me. i have not allowed board standards to influence my opinion when it comes to hair length.

and lmao at dudes asking which color is natural. some guys are so clueless. ♥

 

[southerncitygirl]

African American's are not black?

I'm curious.. What's black by your definition then?

its a known fact that due to slavery we are mixed the technical definition of black actually means you are mixed.....africans see af-am as being mixed though the mixing may not have occured for a generation or more. af-am were enslaved longest and sometimes the mixing is more obvious than with other groups. i have seen caribbean black folks in nyc and mistaken them for being african( especially jamaicans and haitans). mixed doesn't make for so called softer,good or longer hair but centuries of bad hair practices and brainwashing will have you believing all kinds of nonsense. most black folks that mistake interrracial children for having good hair don'y realize it is still afro-textured hair but may be a silkier texture as opposed to cottony or thready.