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They're calling our hair highly textured now...
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A_Christian
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Re: They\'re calling our hair highly textured now..
I don't mind the term nappy either, I've always thought "nappy" hair rocks especially when it's thick. "Highly textured" is so pc sounding, though
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I don't mind the term nappy either, I've always thought "nappy" hair rocks especially when it's thick. "Highly textured" is so pc sounding, though
BronzeBrown
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Re: They\'re calling our hair highly textured now..
I say 'highly textured' or 'tightly curled'. If it's a fellow natural, I don't mind 'nappy' either.~
I say 'highly textured' or 'tightly curled'. If it's a fellow natural, I don't mind 'nappy' either.~
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I still think the term "nappy" sounds cute but I believe one of our British sisters on the Board (I think it was here, but maybe it was on another Board
) pointed out that "nappy" has different connotations over there, as in what we call "diapers," lol. Now I can't say one without thinking of the other.
I still think the term "nappy" sounds cute but I believe one of our British sisters on the Board (I think it was here, but maybe it was on another Board
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Tee
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Re: They\'re calling our hair highly textured now..
Just call me kinky! Uh, my hair I mean.
Just call me kinky! Uh, my hair I mean.
ms_kenesha
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Re: They\'re calling our hair highly textured now..
I don't really like the term nappy, I guess because I've heard it in so many negative contexts. Also, I don't believe in that whole taking a negative word and reclaiming it as our own bag, I mean that's what people are doing with [** potty mouth **]/[** potty mouth **] and I don't like that either.
I don't really like the term nappy, I guess because I've heard it in so many negative contexts. Also, I don't believe in that whole taking a negative word and reclaiming it as our own bag, I mean that's what people are doing with [** potty mouth **]/[** potty mouth **] and I don't like that either.
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I wouldn't feel comfortable using the word "nappy" towards a person who was natural. Since I'm relaxed, I wouldn't want them to think I was using it in a negative way towards them. Kind of like the way it feels when non-black people use the n-word. I don't like it when black people use it either, but it really rubs me the wrong way when someone from another group uses it.
I wouldn't feel comfortable using the word "nappy" towards a person who was natural. Since I'm relaxed, I wouldn't want them to think I was using it in a negative way towards them. Kind of like the way it feels when non-black people use the n-word. I don't like it when black people use it either, but it really rubs me the wrong way when someone from another group uses it.
brittanynic16
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I don't like nappy either. I like the PC terms better. Nappy just sounds so negative. When I think of nappy I think of a big head of hair with so many knots that you can't get a comb through it.
I don't like nappy either. I like the PC terms better. Nappy just sounds so negative. When I think of nappy I think of a big head of hair with so many knots that you can't get a comb through it.
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Oh, another one i like is Napptural from Nappturality.com
Also, in the dictionary (the older ones anyway) Nap or Nappy was used to describe a "Downy surface on some fabrics" also to describe the tightness of the fabric. Like the "nap" of a carpet.
Also nap in the modern dictionaries explain it as:
Nap (nap) n. The fuzzy or hair surface of cloth formed by very short fibers.
My guess is that the term was used because to people who had never seen our hair when we were kidnapped and brought over here, perhaps it looked like carpet. So they wanted to use another thing or phrase to make us feel bad about the texture of our hair. But nap (the word) is used to just describe a texture, nothing bad or good associated with it. It's like saying a tree's leaves are green.
It became negative when it was used like it was a "bad" thing. It's like if someone called my skin Black, that is not an insult to me. But if they said the word BLACK like they were saying the word "sh@t", maybe I would take black to be an insult. And not BEING black as a bad thing, but the way the person USED it would offend me.
I'm probably not explaining this right but hope it made sense. Since I know what the word means (back then, and now) so because of that it really means it does not bother me (like it used to).
Oh, another one i like is Napptural from Nappturality.com
Also, in the dictionary (the older ones anyway) Nap or Nappy was used to describe a "Downy surface on some fabrics" also to describe the tightness of the fabric. Like the "nap" of a carpet.
Also nap in the modern dictionaries explain it as:
Nap (nap) n. The fuzzy or hair surface of cloth formed by very short fibers.
My guess is that the term was used because to people who had never seen our hair when we were kidnapped and brought over here, perhaps it looked like carpet. So they wanted to use another thing or phrase to make us feel bad about the texture of our hair. But nap (the word) is used to just describe a texture, nothing bad or good associated with it. It's like saying a tree's leaves are green.
It became negative when it was used like it was a "bad" thing. It's like if someone called my skin Black, that is not an insult to me. But if they said the word BLACK like they were saying the word "sh@t", maybe I would take black to be an insult. And not BEING black as a bad thing, but the way the person USED it would offend me.
I'm probably not explaining this right but hope it made sense. Since I know what the word means (back then, and now) so because of that it really means it does not bother me (like it used to).
shinyblackhair
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I don't really like the term nappy, I guess because I've heard it in so many negative contexts. Also, I don't believe in that whole taking a negative word and reclaiming it as our own bag, I mean that's what people are doing with [** potty mouth **]/[** potty mouth **] and I don't like that either.
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ITA with you. Just like with the "other N word" I don't buy that whole reclaiming bull either. No offense to others who like to refer to our hair as nappy but, for me it just conjures up negative feelings. Not to say I've never used the word nappy, but I just don't think of it as being a positive way of describing our hair, particularly in literature or in the media.
I prefer the word textured (or highly textured).
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ms_kenesha said:
I don't really like the term nappy, I guess because I've heard it in so many negative contexts. Also, I don't believe in that whole taking a negative word and reclaiming it as our own bag, I mean that's what people are doing with [** potty mouth **]/[** potty mouth **] and I don't like that either.
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ITA with you. Just like with the "other N word" I don't buy that whole reclaiming bull either. No offense to others who like to refer to our hair as nappy but, for me it just conjures up negative feelings. Not to say I've never used the word nappy, but I just don't think of it as being a positive way of describing our hair, particularly in literature or in the media.
I prefer the word textured (or highly textured).
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I think "nappy" is OK when we're using it, but not when "others" use it. I think this PC term and others like it are good for their Hair School manuals and textbooks. I've also heard the term "Excessively Curly". I think "Highly Textured" is a little better even than that one! It's interesting to see all the variousl viewpoints!
I think "nappy" is OK when we're using it, but not when "others" use it. I think this PC term and others like it are good for their Hair School manuals and textbooks. I've also heard the term "Excessively Curly". I think "Highly Textured" is a little better even than that one! It's interesting to see all the variousl viewpoints!
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p.s. I agree with you Leshia about PC terms. I like those terms myself.
I think nappy bugs me depending on how it's used. If it's used according to the literal defination (well, not the UK version, LOL!) it simply describes a texture or the "degree of tightness" to a pattern.
But if "they" use it, or "we" use it as a negative then I think it's offensive!! I'm sure that sounds funny but it's true.
As for the "other N word" I think the intentions behind that one have always been negative. Although I've heard differently but I'm not trying to claim that particular word.
p.s. I agree with you Leshia about PC terms. I like those terms myself.
I think nappy bugs me depending on how it's used. If it's used according to the literal defination (well, not the UK version, LOL!) it simply describes a texture or the "degree of tightness" to a pattern.
But if "they" use it, or "we" use it as a negative then I think it's offensive!! I'm sure that sounds funny but it's true.
As for the "other N word" I think the intentions behind that one have always been negative. Although I've heard differently but I'm not trying to claim that particular word.
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p.s. I agree with you Leshia about PC terms. I like those terms myself.
I think nappy bugs me depending on how it's used. If it's used according to the literal defination (well, not the UK version, LOL!) it simply describes a texture or the "degree of tightness" to a pattern.
But if "they" use it, or "we" use it as a negative then I think it's offensive!! I'm sure that sounds funny but it's true.
As for the "other N word" I think the intentions behind that one have always been negative.
The other N word, I think originally meant lazy, stupid, and I've even seen miserly (if you look in the Koran, it says to avoid being Nigg@@rdly :O ) and other negative things before it got transformed to a word to demean AA specifially. So that is a word that I would never use because it has NEVER been anything good, and it doesn't describe me or anyone I know in either of it's translations.
Or the "B" word for example in slang it's a derogatory word for a female, and then it's real meaning is a female dog. Nothing about the word is particularly positive so I wouldn't be claiming that one.
Nap is used to describe texture, and not a "bad" texture, it just describes the pattern of a particular fabric. I guess the negative could be is that hair is not fabric, but we do tend to say "Man, my hair felt like silk" so.....
I can understand both sides of the coin though. Again, as long as someone isn't using nappy to describe a hair texture as a BAD thing, then it's not.
Like I said, it's like saying black (although I have several opinions about that word but for the sake of this topic). To say "Wow you are really black" there are some people who would be offended by this. But it is what it is, and is not a NEGATIVE thing. But if someone said that same sentence with a certain tone in their voice, it can be perceived as an insult.
p.s. I agree with you Leshia about PC terms. I like those terms myself.
I think nappy bugs me depending on how it's used. If it's used according to the literal defination (well, not the UK version, LOL!) it simply describes a texture or the "degree of tightness" to a pattern.
But if "they" use it, or "we" use it as a negative then I think it's offensive!! I'm sure that sounds funny but it's true.
As for the "other N word" I think the intentions behind that one have always been negative.
The other N word, I think originally meant lazy, stupid, and I've even seen miserly (if you look in the Koran, it says to avoid being Nigg@@rdly :O ) and other negative things before it got transformed to a word to demean AA specifially. So that is a word that I would never use because it has NEVER been anything good, and it doesn't describe me or anyone I know in either of it's translations.
Or the "B" word for example in slang it's a derogatory word for a female, and then it's real meaning is a female dog. Nothing about the word is particularly positive so I wouldn't be claiming that one.
Nap is used to describe texture, and not a "bad" texture, it just describes the pattern of a particular fabric. I guess the negative could be is that hair is not fabric, but we do tend to say "Man, my hair felt like silk" so.....
I can understand both sides of the coin though. Again, as long as someone isn't using nappy to describe a hair texture as a BAD thing, then it's not.
Like I said, it's like saying black (although I have several opinions about that word but for the sake of this topic). To say "Wow you are really black" there are some people who would be offended by this. But it is what it is, and is not a NEGATIVE thing. But if someone said that same sentence with a certain tone in their voice, it can be perceived as an insult.
UmSumayyah
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Tara said:
and I've even seen miserly (if you look in the Koran, it says to avoid being Nigg@@rdly :O ) and other negative things before it got transformed to a word to demean AA specifially.
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Just wanted to emphasize that one of the english translations , uses the word. Abdullah Yusuf Ali most likely, since it is the most widely used English translation. Other translators, such as Pickthall may have used a different word.
Also, I believe the most unpleasant "n" word originated as a version of the spanish word "negro", and is unrelated to the similarly spelled word that means "miser/ miserly".
It would be interesting, though, if it came about as a sort of derivative of both words.
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Tara said:
and I've even seen miserly (if you look in the Koran, it says to avoid being Nigg@@rdly :O ) and other negative things before it got transformed to a word to demean AA specifially.
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Just wanted to emphasize that one of the english translations , uses the word. Abdullah Yusuf Ali most likely, since it is the most widely used English translation. Other translators, such as Pickthall may have used a different word.
Also, I believe the most unpleasant "n" word originated as a version of the spanish word "negro", and is unrelated to the similarly spelled word that means "miser/ miserly".
It would be interesting, though, if it came about as a sort of derivative of both words.
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