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Queenie
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"Wash and wear" hair is not always easy or quick. For me, my natural curl pattern is really tight so my wash and wear hair doesn't look the way I thought it would. I am going to wait like another 4 mon to a 1 year before I do the wash and wear style regularly. My first texturizer was 1 yr ago.
Nanyanika
Well-Known Member
Reversion can be a problem if you have tight 4a resistant curls, like mine. make sure your using the correct stregth mild doesn't suit everyone. Secondly if you fail to keep the texture even, for eg underprocessing, this could be a nightmare, i went through matting and tangles for months, so do strand tests to determine desired results.
Thirdly don't expect the comb to run through curls easily, you have to detangle and separate the curls with your fingers first, or you'll tear the strands, get hold of good detanglers, conditioiners and leave-ins which should help tremendously. On the whole the curly look is quite pretty.
i know you didn't ask me for my opnion but, i personally wouldn't choose fiberguard if you have a texture like mine, i suffered severe dryness, shedding and underprocessing with the Fiberguard in mild the stylist left it on for 30 plus mins and my hair still didn't process properly in the back areas, all i got was excessively dry curls and frizz.
My older sister used the normal strength and her hair was underprocessed too, just my opinion, but i think Affirm original is much better, my hair contains so much more moisture and it processes my hair better.
If you only desire softer hair or if the hair is color treated or damaged then Fiberguard is okay, but its too GENTLE for my hair however if your going for curls i don't think its the best option, Good luck, in whatever you decide /images/graemlins/wink.gif
Thirdly don't expect the comb to run through curls easily, you have to detangle and separate the curls with your fingers first, or you'll tear the strands, get hold of good detanglers, conditioiners and leave-ins which should help tremendously. On the whole the curly look is quite pretty.
i know you didn't ask me for my opnion but, i personally wouldn't choose fiberguard if you have a texture like mine, i suffered severe dryness, shedding and underprocessing with the Fiberguard in mild the stylist left it on for 30 plus mins and my hair still didn't process properly in the back areas, all i got was excessively dry curls and frizz.
My older sister used the normal strength and her hair was underprocessed too, just my opinion, but i think Affirm original is much better, my hair contains so much more moisture and it processes my hair better.
If you only desire softer hair or if the hair is color treated or damaged then Fiberguard is okay, but its too GENTLE for my hair however if your going for curls i don't think its the best option, Good luck, in whatever you decide /images/graemlins/wink.gif
itismehmmkay
Well-Known Member
One main thing is that it takes a while to get that exact texture that you want. When I got my first wash and go, I actually did it by accident. I used a mild relaxer on my 4a/b hair and was aiming for straight hair. Well, it came out very underprocessed. It took me 2 more applications to get the texture I was looking for.
Another one: I wouldn't even think about using a flat-iron or a blow-dryer on the curls. They're already in a delicate state texture-wise and too much pressure could leave some permanently straight ( /images/graemlins/frown.gif this happened to me). And you can't do a wash and go with some pieces curly and some pieces straight.
Also, retouches can be a nightmare all over again since you're trying to get that exact texture. Err on the side of underprocessing even more w/ them.
Another one: I wouldn't even think about using a flat-iron or a blow-dryer on the curls. They're already in a delicate state texture-wise and too much pressure could leave some permanently straight ( /images/graemlins/frown.gif this happened to me). And you can't do a wash and go with some pieces curly and some pieces straight.
Also, retouches can be a nightmare all over again since you're trying to get that exact texture. Err on the side of underprocessing even more w/ them.
Shayla
New Member
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Reversion can be a problem if you have tight 4a resistant curls, like mine. make sure your using the correct stregth mild doesn't suit everyone. Secondly if you fail to keep the texture even, for eg underprocessing, this could be a nightmare, i went through matting and tangles for months, so do strand tests to determine desired results.
Thirdly don't expect the comb to run through curls easily, you have to detangle and separate the curls with your fingers first, or you'll tear the strands, get hold of good detanglers, conditioiners and leave-ins which should help tremendously. On the whole the curly look is quite pretty.
i know you didn't ask me for my opnion but, i personally wouldn't choose fiberguard if you have a texture like mine, i suffered severe dryness, shedding and underprocessing with the Fiberguard in mild the stylist left it on for 30 plus mins and my hair still didn't process properly in the back areas, all i got was excessively dry curls and frizz.
My older sister used the normal strength and her hair was underprocessed too, just my opinion, but i think Affirm original is much better, my hair contains so much more moisture and it processes my hair better.
If you only desire softer hair or if the hair is color treated or damaged then Fiberguard is okay, but its too GENTLE for my hair however if your going for curls i don't think its the best option, Good luck, in whatever you decide /images/graemlins/wink.gif
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thanks so much den...actually after reading your post yesterday, i decided that fiberguard wasn't for me..i was only gonna use it because it was recommended by my cousin..but she bleaches and colors her hair all the time..so once i found out it was mainly for color treated relaxed hair, i decided against it as well..thanks for ALL your help!!..oh and congrats on getting your hair back in shape...looks GREAT! /images/graemlins/weird.gif
Reversion can be a problem if you have tight 4a resistant curls, like mine. make sure your using the correct stregth mild doesn't suit everyone. Secondly if you fail to keep the texture even, for eg underprocessing, this could be a nightmare, i went through matting and tangles for months, so do strand tests to determine desired results.
Thirdly don't expect the comb to run through curls easily, you have to detangle and separate the curls with your fingers first, or you'll tear the strands, get hold of good detanglers, conditioiners and leave-ins which should help tremendously. On the whole the curly look is quite pretty.
i know you didn't ask me for my opnion but, i personally wouldn't choose fiberguard if you have a texture like mine, i suffered severe dryness, shedding and underprocessing with the Fiberguard in mild the stylist left it on for 30 plus mins and my hair still didn't process properly in the back areas, all i got was excessively dry curls and frizz.
My older sister used the normal strength and her hair was underprocessed too, just my opinion, but i think Affirm original is much better, my hair contains so much more moisture and it processes my hair better.
If you only desire softer hair or if the hair is color treated or damaged then Fiberguard is okay, but its too GENTLE for my hair however if your going for curls i don't think its the best option, Good luck, in whatever you decide /images/graemlins/wink.gif
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thanks so much den...actually after reading your post yesterday, i decided that fiberguard wasn't for me..i was only gonna use it because it was recommended by my cousin..but she bleaches and colors her hair all the time..so once i found out it was mainly for color treated relaxed hair, i decided against it as well..thanks for ALL your help!!..oh and congrats on getting your hair back in shape...looks GREAT! /images/graemlins/weird.gif
Shayla
New Member
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One main thing is that it takes a while to get that exact texture that you want. When I got my first wash and go, I actually did it by accident. I used a mild relaxer on my 4a/b hair and was aiming for straight hair. Well, it came out very underprocessed. It took me 2 more applications to get the texture I was looking for.
Another one: I wouldn't even think about using a flat-iron or a blow-dryer on the curls. They're already in a delicate state texture-wise and too much pressure could leave some permanently straight ( /images/graemlins/frown.gif this happened to me). And you can't do a wash and go with some pieces curly and some pieces straight.
Also, retouches can be a nightmare all over again since you're trying to get that exact texture. Err on the side of underprocessing even more w/ them.
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thanks girl!!! i have no clue how to even relax my hair, so i guess i either need to learn or let a pro texturize it the first time...thanks for all your suggs!
One main thing is that it takes a while to get that exact texture that you want. When I got my first wash and go, I actually did it by accident. I used a mild relaxer on my 4a/b hair and was aiming for straight hair. Well, it came out very underprocessed. It took me 2 more applications to get the texture I was looking for.
Another one: I wouldn't even think about using a flat-iron or a blow-dryer on the curls. They're already in a delicate state texture-wise and too much pressure could leave some permanently straight ( /images/graemlins/frown.gif this happened to me). And you can't do a wash and go with some pieces curly and some pieces straight.
Also, retouches can be a nightmare all over again since you're trying to get that exact texture. Err on the side of underprocessing even more w/ them.
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thanks girl!!! i have no clue how to even relax my hair, so i guess i either need to learn or let a pro texturize it the first time...thanks for all your suggs!
Nanyanika
Well-Known Member
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Reversion can be a problem if you have tight 4a resistant curls, like mine. make sure your using the correct stregth mild doesn't suit everyone. Secondly if you fail to keep the texture even, for eg underprocessing, this could be a nightmare, i went through matting and tangles for months, so do strand tests to determine desired results.
Thirdly don't expect the comb to run through curls easily, you have to detangle and separate the curls with your fingers first, or you'll tear the strands, get hold of good detanglers, conditioiners and leave-ins which should help tremendously. On the whole the curly look is quite pretty.
i know you didn't ask me for my opnion but, i personally wouldn't choose fiberguard if you have a texture like mine, i suffered severe dryness, shedding and underprocessing with the Fiberguard in mild the stylist left it on for 30 plus mins and my hair still didn't process properly in the back areas, all i got was excessively dry curls and frizz.
My older sister used the normal strength and her hair was underprocessed too, just my opinion, but i think Affirm original is much better, my hair contains so much more moisture and it processes my hair better.
If you only desire softer hair or if the hair is color treated or damaged then Fiberguard is okay, but its too GENTLE for my hair however if your going for curls i don't think its the best option, Good luck, in whatever you decide /images/graemlins/wink.gif
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thanks so much den...actually after reading your post yesterday, i decided that fiberguard wasn't for me..i was only gonna use it because it was recommended by my cousin..but she bleaches and colors her hair all the time..so once i found out it was mainly for color treated relaxed hair, i decided against it as well..thanks for ALL your help!!..oh and congrats on getting your hair back in shape...looks GREAT! /images/graemlins/weird.gif
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Thanks...i'm sure with lots of practice you can master the texture you desire with relaxer/texturizer /images/graemlins/grin.gif.
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Reversion can be a problem if you have tight 4a resistant curls, like mine. make sure your using the correct stregth mild doesn't suit everyone. Secondly if you fail to keep the texture even, for eg underprocessing, this could be a nightmare, i went through matting and tangles for months, so do strand tests to determine desired results.
Thirdly don't expect the comb to run through curls easily, you have to detangle and separate the curls with your fingers first, or you'll tear the strands, get hold of good detanglers, conditioiners and leave-ins which should help tremendously. On the whole the curly look is quite pretty.
i know you didn't ask me for my opnion but, i personally wouldn't choose fiberguard if you have a texture like mine, i suffered severe dryness, shedding and underprocessing with the Fiberguard in mild the stylist left it on for 30 plus mins and my hair still didn't process properly in the back areas, all i got was excessively dry curls and frizz.
My older sister used the normal strength and her hair was underprocessed too, just my opinion, but i think Affirm original is much better, my hair contains so much more moisture and it processes my hair better.
If you only desire softer hair or if the hair is color treated or damaged then Fiberguard is okay, but its too GENTLE for my hair however if your going for curls i don't think its the best option, Good luck, in whatever you decide /images/graemlins/wink.gif
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thanks so much den...actually after reading your post yesterday, i decided that fiberguard wasn't for me..i was only gonna use it because it was recommended by my cousin..but she bleaches and colors her hair all the time..so once i found out it was mainly for color treated relaxed hair, i decided against it as well..thanks for ALL your help!!..oh and congrats on getting your hair back in shape...looks GREAT! /images/graemlins/weird.gif
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Thanks...i'm sure with lots of practice you can master the texture you desire with relaxer/texturizer /images/graemlins/grin.gif.
Nanyanika
Well-Known Member
Virtuasis, i'm so sorry you don't like texturized hair, i had a lot of problems with mine when i went to a stupid stylist who kept underprocessing and using a weak formula relaxer in my hair. my texture is finally good enough to wear it curly now. Have you tried braid-outs or twists-outs for curly looks? about reversion: Also it depends on the products used to acheive straight looks? Apex pressing oil is pretty good, i used it on my niece's natural hair when i flat-ironed it, her hair stayed straight for longer. I find that 4b texture tends not to texturise into curls? my yougest sister has fine 4b so her hair is prone to frizz a lot, you could try rollesets or get a hairdresser to flat iron the hair professionally.
model_chick717
New Member
For me, I think the only con would be that because it is still "curly" but has a chemical process on it--that you have to be delicate with it when combing, detangling, and styling. I agree with itsmehmmkay, that it may take several attempts before you reach the texture that you want--but once you do and figure out the formula for it (what strenght relaxer, and how long to leave it on) it's not really that hard after that.
Also, I find my hair to be pretty versatile--I don't necessarely EXERCISE it though. I don't ever really try to wear straight hair--at least not my own hair. If I want a straighter/silkier look, I rollerset with medium rollers--but if I tried to wear a flat-ironed look, I'm sure my hair would revert in a day. haha
Also, I find my hair to be pretty versatile--I don't necessarely EXERCISE it though. I don't ever really try to wear straight hair--at least not my own hair. If I want a straighter/silkier look, I rollerset with medium rollers--but if I tried to wear a flat-ironed look, I'm sure my hair would revert in a day. haha
Tracy
New Member
Another con...one that doesn't have to be though...
I am guilty of wearing my wash and wear for DAYS without adding any real moisture. The con here would be that ease of styling (once you get the hang of it) can cause you to be a little lax and not take as good care of your hair as you should. When you can just wash, add some conditioner and some products, and go - you tend to skip the deeper conditioning processes and such if you're lazy - like I am. I find my hair gets the best care when I wear it straight. I'm working on it, but that's another heads up.
Just because it's easy once you get the hang of it, doesn't mean you can ignore your hair. /images/graemlins/smile.gif
I am guilty of wearing my wash and wear for DAYS without adding any real moisture. The con here would be that ease of styling (once you get the hang of it) can cause you to be a little lax and not take as good care of your hair as you should. When you can just wash, add some conditioner and some products, and go - you tend to skip the deeper conditioning processes and such if you're lazy - like I am. I find my hair gets the best care when I wear it straight. I'm working on it, but that's another heads up.
Just because it's easy once you get the hang of it, doesn't mean you can ignore your hair. /images/graemlins/smile.gif
model_chick717
New Member
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Another con...one that doesn't have to be though...
I am guilty of wearing my wash and wear for DAYS without adding any real moisture. The con here would be that ease of styling (once you get the hang of it) can cause you to be a little lax and not take as good care of your hair as you should. When you can just wash, add some conditioner and some products, and go - you tend to skip the deeper conditioning processes and such if you're lazy - like I am. I find my hair gets the best care when I wear it straight. I'm working on it, but that's another heads up.
Just because it's easy once you get the hang of it, doesn't mean you can ignore your hair. /images/graemlins/smile.gif
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Good point--I'm guilty of this at times as well...haha
Another con...one that doesn't have to be though...
I am guilty of wearing my wash and wear for DAYS without adding any real moisture. The con here would be that ease of styling (once you get the hang of it) can cause you to be a little lax and not take as good care of your hair as you should. When you can just wash, add some conditioner and some products, and go - you tend to skip the deeper conditioning processes and such if you're lazy - like I am. I find my hair gets the best care when I wear it straight. I'm working on it, but that's another heads up.
Just because it's easy once you get the hang of it, doesn't mean you can ignore your hair. /images/graemlins/smile.gif
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Good point--I'm guilty of this at times as well...haha
Whisper
Member
My hair is wavy as opposed to curly, which is ok for me /images/graemlins/grin.gif however when I wash, I can't check my hair out to see the "real length" b/c all of the texturized areas "poof up" when wet, and they remain wavy. I only had one texturizer, and that entailed 4 inches of newgrwth, so i have straight ends /images/graemlins/perplexed.gif
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