Sorry for my ignorance

[MrsHdrLe]

What is a BC? I always thought a BC was when you cut your hair very short (3" or less). Is there a specific guideline?

 

[divinempress]

Big Chop, its basically when you transition and then cut off your relaxed ends...leaving only your natural hair.

 

[MrsHdrLe]

But How do some women claim a BC when they go from mbl to apl for example? Is it that they had mostly new growth and straight ends? How does their hair even grow like that and not fall off from the demarcation? I'm confused.

 

[LaidBak]

Don't feel bad. I was clueless when I first joined. I thought it meant "boy cut".

 

[divinempress]

But How do some women claim a BC when they go from mbl to apl for example? Is it that they had mostly new growth and straight ends? How does their hair even grow like that and not fall off from the demarcation? I'm confused.

yea you've got the right idea. It depends on your hair tolerance. Extra care and moisture is needed to prevent breakage at the demarcation line.

 

[lilsparkle825]

But How do some women claim a BC when they go from mbl to apl for example? Is it that they had mostly new growth and straight ends? How does their hair even grow like that and not fall off from the demarcation? I'm confused.

A lot of us have transitioned from relaxed to natural over long periods of time. Personally, my transition lasted for a year, and I went from grazing APL to SL when I BC'd.

 

[Mook's hair]

There's nothing wrong with asking questions for clarity.

I have been transitioning for 2 years. I never did a Big Chop

Having 2 textures has nothing to do with your hair falling off; the demarcation line is not dante's inferno.

There are many long term transitioners. It's not the easiest thing in the world but growing out a relaxer does not have to mean that you cut your hair off short. I've had some breakage here and there but I've maintained with both textures.

 

[Nonie]

BC to me doesn't just mean cutting off relaxed ends. BC means a big chop...regardless of what your hair state was. I had a BC I didn't ask for in Feb 2007: I had shoulder-length natural hair which was BC'd to a TWA by my stylist. That was a big chop, IMO.

 

[Blaque*Angel]

BC to me doesn't just mean cutting off relaxed ends. BC means a big chop...regardless of what your hair state was. I had a BC I didn't ask for in Feb 2007: I had shoulder-length natural hair which was BC'd to a TWA by my stylist. That was a big chop, IMO.

what happened? did she cut it off without your permission?

 

[Nonie]

what happened? did she cut it off without your permission?

You missed my story? OK, here's what happened. I had grown my hair in braids to about shoulder-length and was very happy but besides wearing a puff, I didn't know what else to do with it. So I was going to go to Mikko (sp?) to get my hair shingled and get hands-on training on how to do it (I knew about the tutorial online but I figured seeing it done by the pro would be the best way to learn). Mikko wasn't going to be there till Wednesday to take my call that week and impatience got the better of me. The alternative stylist that was recommended was available when I called. We talked at length about what I wanted to get done and she assured me that it'd be so easy once she showed me how. What also attracted me to her was I was told she likes to help people grow long hair, so surely, she wouldn't be one of those stylists I hear about.

Well, when I got there, the receptionist saw my naps and immediately assumed I was there for a press. I assured her I wasn't as I had discussed with the stylist my love for my natural hair. When my stylist came, she tried to suggest I get my hair texturized. I adamantly refused. Then she suggested a color would look good on me. I've never wanted my hair to be anything but black so again I said no. (Besides I've heard of some color that can loosen curls and so even if I liked color, I was not going to trust her after she'd showed a keen interest in changing my texture.) I really should have left at this point but I was so excited to learn how to shingle that I ignored those subtle messages. She shampooed my hair, and DC'd with Aveda Damage Remedy. I was loving everything thus far. Then she blowed dried my hair and said she's give me a trim. I wasn't sitting in front of a mirror or anything and I don't know why I trusted her so. Oh, after blow-drying my hair, I remember her saying "Your hair is long!"--something she hadn't known coz it was shrunken to a TWA when I walked in. She proceeded to "trim" then put Paul Mitchell Foaming...whatever and proceeded to twirl my hair around her fingers. I had never seen that done before so had no clue what she was doing, but was taking notes. Then she put me under a dryer and then took me out and sat me by a mirror and exclaimed, "There you are!"



I'd never seen anything so ugly in my whole life. I asked her if she was serious and she said yes, that the curls would fall in two days and I'd have dangling curls. Still in shock at the mess on my head, I put on my woolly cap with her OK (it was cold) and went home. My hair looked a lot shorter but I couldn't be sure the length was not hidden in the style. In two days, my hair started to mat and looked like poop. And it wasn't until I undid the mess that I realized just how much length I'd lost.

In pics, my hair was this length when I went to her (Feb 2007):

The mess that I later learned is called finger coils that made me think of a crazy woman twirling fingers in her hair as she rocked back and forth looked like this:

And when I undid my hair, I found I had been left with this:

So yes, I never asked her to BC my hair. I didn't mind a trim and really believed what I had been told that she hates to cut hair so thought she'd be very sparing in her "trim". I learned my lesson: NEVER again will I let anyone touch my hair.

 

[Blaque*Angel]

oh my gosh nonie!!!!!! what is wrong with some "stylists"?

did you ever go back and confront her?she obviously done that on purpose!

hugs to you girlie and i hope it grows back 10x faster!

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[mscocoface]

Nonie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Junebug D]

OMG Nonie! That's horrible! I would have been scarred for life!

 

[Makenzie]

OMG Nonie! I would be furious! Did you confront her? Sorry this happened to you. So sorry.

 

[kryolnapps]

Wow Nonie! I'm sitting here seething with rage for you as if this had happen to me today! Yes, I would definitely call this an unwarranted BC.

I BC'ed after close to 1 year transition. I had 2 inches of growth and about 3-4 inches of relaxed hair, except in the nape area where it was shaved off.

 

[Nonie]

(((Blaque*Angel, mscocoface,shan_2001, Pretty Brown Eyes, kryolnapps))) *sniff* You guys are getting me misty-eyed with your kindness when I thought I was so over this experience. *sniff* Thank you.

No, I never confronted her. I guess I must've suffered that abused victim's complex where you blame yourself for the abuser's behavior feeling like you didn't do enough to prevent the harm. Or I just didn't have the energy to deal with her coz I was drained by regret.... What good would it have done anyway? It wouldn't have brought my hair back. I just used that as a lesson that no one can style my hair better than or love it as much as I do.

 

[Blaque*Angel]

(((Blaque*Angel, mscocoface,shan_2001, Pretty Brown Eyes, kryolnapps))) *sniff* You guys are getting me misty-eyed with your kindness when I thought I was so over this experience. *sniff* Thank you.

No, I never confronted her. I guess I must've suffered that abused victim's complex where you blame yourself for the abuser's behavior feeling like you didn't do enough to prevent the harm. Or I just didn't have the energy to deal with her coz I was drained by regret.... What good would it have done anyway? It wouldn't have brought my hair back. I just used that as a lesson that no one can style my hair better than or love it as much as I do.

hugs darling, how is your hair doing now? i bet its grown a lot

 

[Nonie]

hugs darling, how is your hair doing now? i bet its grown a lot

It's making strides slowly but surely. This was my puff in Feb 2007:

And this was my puff Oct 2008:

 

[Makenzie]

(((Blaque*Angel, mscocoface,shan_2001, Pretty Brown Eyes, kryolnapps))) *sniff* You guys are getting me misty-eyed with your kindness when I thought I was so over this experience. *sniff* Thank you.

No, I never confronted her. I guess I must've suffered that abused victim's complex where you blame yourself for the abuser's behavior feeling like you didn't do enough to prevent the harm. Or I just didn't have the energy to deal with her coz I was drained by regret.... What good would it have done anyway? It wouldn't have brought my hair back. I just used that as a lesson that no one can style my hair better than or love it as much as I do.

Your hair looks fabulous and healthy.

It was a hurtful experience but I am positive it won't happen again. You won't let it.

 

[Blaque*Angel]

It's making strides slowly but surely. This was my puff in Feb 2007:

And this was my puff Oct 2008:

aw, its growing nicely
they say eveything happens for a reason....
its going to be even healthier than before since you have so much hair knowledge
happy hair growing sis