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SVT
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Poster: YuNg
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No i mean all this talk about there is a hair cycle and your hair stops growing at a certain point. I want to know has Anyone not get monthly new growth?
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Not every hair strand is in the same stage at the same time. Are you sure it's not breakage?
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No i mean all this talk about there is a hair cycle and your hair stops growing at a certain point. I want to know has Anyone not get monthly new growth?
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Not every hair strand is in the same stage at the same time. Are you sure it's not breakage?
SVT
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Poster: YuNg
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im not saying this for me lol. Im asking has anyone experienced that because i personally dont believe in your hair stopping at a certain point.
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I've only experienced no growth/slow growth when I wasn't caring for my hair properly (breakage) or I was getting scheduled trims.
Lots of members on the board believe hair stops growing at a certain point. Lots of other folks believe differently. I think a strand does stop growing, to rest, then at some point begins growing again.
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im not saying this for me lol. Im asking has anyone experienced that because i personally dont believe in your hair stopping at a certain point.
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I've only experienced no growth/slow growth when I wasn't caring for my hair properly (breakage) or I was getting scheduled trims.
Lots of members on the board believe hair stops growing at a certain point. Lots of other folks believe differently. I think a strand does stop growing, to rest, then at some point begins growing again.
sassygirl125
Professional PJ
I thought you were talking about yourself!
And I sent you that long PM.
I don't know much about growth/shedding/resting phases. As far as I know, no one's hair goes into a resting phase at the same time and stops growing completely.
I don't know much about growth/shedding/resting phases. As far as I know, no one's hair goes into a resting phase at the same time and stops growing completely.
Nonie
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This is my understanding: Hair goes through a growth cycle which includes a growing phase; a resting phase; and a shedding phase. And because the hair strands are at different stages of that growth cycle, hair is growing all the time...and a small fraction is being shed at any one time. So some of your strands are just beginning their growth phase, others are halfway through the growth phase and still growing. Others have completed the growth phase and are in their resting phase. Others have completed their resting phase and are being shed. The percentage of the hair resting is only 10% and some of it will complete it's resting phase today and be shed (that's about 50-100 hairs, more or less).
So let's say your growth cycle is 4 years long (Cycles can be 2-7 years long). And let's say your growth rate is 1/2 an inch a month. Most of your hair is at some point in the growing phase. But a small fraction of your hair (say 10%) has completed it's cycle and is resting. Out of that a few hairs will be shed today. The follicles that will shed that hair will rest awhile and then give birth to brand new strands which will start a new growth phase. These new strands will now grow for 4 years at the rate of 1/2 inch per month. That means, each year for those 4 years, you should expect six inches of hair growth. At the end of the 4 years, the hair will have achieved it's genetically designed length of 24 inches (if no damage or wear and tear occured). Then it will shed again and the cycle will begin again. And I believe this is why people talk of the maximum length they can achieve. And the length of your growth cycle (genetically decided) does have a lot to do with it.
Even with that theory, I still suspect that it's possible to beat genetics if you can extend the growth phase (as we have heard some supplements can do) so that instead of your hair growing for say 2 years before shedding (for those with a 2 year growth cycle), it grows for two and a half, or three years. For the 1/2 inch/month rate, that'd be an extra 3-6 inches. Remember also that the more we learn, the better care we take of our hair so that we reduce natural wear and tear, as well as unnatural breakage. Which boils down to Cathy Howse's theory: if you can hold onto what you have, you will see length you never knew you were capable of.
So unless you have done everything possible to protect and care for your hair - meaning there isn't anything else you could possibly learn/do to improve your regimen - then don't believe that what you see is all you'll ever see. It may be that the next new idea you learn is what will help you keep that insignificant fraction of hair you didn't even know you were losing each week, or what will help you boost your whole body's health so you achieve whatever the optimum growth rate is FOR you. So forget about cycles and focus on doing the best you can do for you, your body and your hair. I bet you people that have long hair don't think or worry about "cycles". As I always say, when you reach your goal, how long it took to get there and what your rate was will not be something that will concern you. So let's just have fun on this hair growing adventure.
There's so much to discover and learn along the way. Think of it like exercise... There never comes a day when you can say you've exercised enough for the rest of the year. You have to keep improving the muscles you've achieved. And occasionally science puts out a new theory that you incorporate into your workout (eg crunches safer than sit-ups for the back). So your exercise program is altered to include the new precautions. But you never quit even when you get your washboard abs, and arms, thighs, buns of steel. You keep on getting better.
I believe the same theory applies when it comes to hair. We can always do better.
And with LHCF...we will.
So let's say your growth cycle is 4 years long (Cycles can be 2-7 years long). And let's say your growth rate is 1/2 an inch a month. Most of your hair is at some point in the growing phase. But a small fraction of your hair (say 10%) has completed it's cycle and is resting. Out of that a few hairs will be shed today. The follicles that will shed that hair will rest awhile and then give birth to brand new strands which will start a new growth phase. These new strands will now grow for 4 years at the rate of 1/2 inch per month. That means, each year for those 4 years, you should expect six inches of hair growth. At the end of the 4 years, the hair will have achieved it's genetically designed length of 24 inches (if no damage or wear and tear occured). Then it will shed again and the cycle will begin again. And I believe this is why people talk of the maximum length they can achieve. And the length of your growth cycle (genetically decided) does have a lot to do with it.
Even with that theory, I still suspect that it's possible to beat genetics if you can extend the growth phase (as we have heard some supplements can do) so that instead of your hair growing for say 2 years before shedding (for those with a 2 year growth cycle), it grows for two and a half, or three years. For the 1/2 inch/month rate, that'd be an extra 3-6 inches. Remember also that the more we learn, the better care we take of our hair so that we reduce natural wear and tear, as well as unnatural breakage. Which boils down to Cathy Howse's theory: if you can hold onto what you have, you will see length you never knew you were capable of.
So unless you have done everything possible to protect and care for your hair - meaning there isn't anything else you could possibly learn/do to improve your regimen - then don't believe that what you see is all you'll ever see. It may be that the next new idea you learn is what will help you keep that insignificant fraction of hair you didn't even know you were losing each week, or what will help you boost your whole body's health so you achieve whatever the optimum growth rate is FOR you. So forget about cycles and focus on doing the best you can do for you, your body and your hair. I bet you people that have long hair don't think or worry about "cycles". As I always say, when you reach your goal, how long it took to get there and what your rate was will not be something that will concern you. So let's just have fun on this hair growing adventure.
I believe the same theory applies when it comes to hair. We can always do better.
Tell it, nonie!
That was a great post. I hope it reassures and clears things up for other people too. Ever since I joined this board I've been convinced that I've never even come close to reaching my growth potential. The years will pass and my hair will keep growing out of my head regardless of what my regimen is (well, at least till I get REALLY old
). I figure I might as well adopt a good regimen that will allow me to keep all that hair that's going to be growing anyway.
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YuNug, I think you should talk to a professional about this, because that is something that people here differ on, but it's obvious that people's hair tapers off or our hair would be grown out of control and everybody's hair would be waist/feet lenght. This is just common observation, not what anyone thinks, but what's is actually factually happening.
I hear people here all the time saying they don't "think" theres a growth cap, yet "evidence" shows otherwise.
And everyone's growing and shedding stage is different. So my advice is really get an expert opinion about this. There should be some growning every month though, no matter how small but if there's shedding as well, your not gonna see a lenght change.
And I do agree with Nonie
just take the best care of your hair and you can retain most of your growth, you wont retain it all, cause were gonna shed, like it or not, were gonna shed.
I hear people here all the time saying they don't "think" theres a growth cap, yet "evidence" shows otherwise.
And everyone's growing and shedding stage is different. So my advice is really get an expert opinion about this. There should be some growning every month though, no matter how small but if there's shedding as well, your not gonna see a lenght change.
And I do agree with Nonie
Nonie
Well-Known Member
There is indeed a growth cap (no question about that), but I believe most of us haven't seen ours because we never knew how to give our hair the best care and nourishment so we could see its potential. Take diet for instance... If there's room for improvement on our nutrition, then there's a chance we will see some improvement in all areas of our bodies, including hair texture and length. Then we will discover what our maximum length really is. And since growth cycles are not the same for everyone, this will vary: for some this will be shoulder-length hair, for others waist-length hair.
Nonie
Nonie
pebbles
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There is indeed a growth cap (no question about that), but I believe most of us haven't seen ours because we never knew how to give our hair the best care and nourishment so we could see its potential. Take diet for instance... If there's room for improvement on our nutrition, then there's a chance we will see some improvement in all areas of our bodies, including hair texture and length. Then we will discover what our maximum length really is. And since growth cycles are not the same for everyone, this will vary: for some this will be shoulder-length hair, for others waist-length hair.
Nonie
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There is indeed a growth cap (no question about that), but I believe most of us haven't seen ours because we never knew how to give our hair the best care and nourishment so we could see its potential. Take diet for instance... If there's room for improvement on our nutrition, then there's a chance we will see some improvement in all areas of our bodies, including hair texture and length. Then we will discover what our maximum length really is. And since growth cycles are not the same for everyone, this will vary: for some this will be shoulder-length hair, for others waist-length hair.
Nonie
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Yeah, I really need to do more in the nutrition area...
Esp, vitamins.
Esp, vitamins.
