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I think it depends on your hair...
I have about 8 inches (just got a trim)
and just finally was able to make a real ponytai before the trim at 9 1/2 inches
As for making one with twists I can't yet lol
LynnieB Nope we're talking without any assistance. My ponytail/bunnytail right now is sad bobby pin assistance and all it looks like a lil cotton ball unless I blowdry it first, but I still need more length. I was just wondering around what month can I expect to start seeing progress.