INTERESTED IN CHEAPER & POTENT HF37 Replica

[Nanyanika]

A while back i posted about my experience using HF37 replica called "Holland & Barratts Body fortress amino 1500", which is cheaper and yielded better hair growth results. in fact another UK member here also uses this product, i think its kizzylonghair.

Quote from old thread:
"Have you ever heard of HF37 its aminos/b-vits, my hair used to grow slow like 1/4-1/2 per month and when i began taking this in 2002-2003 my growth rate hit 1 inch a month and sometimes more, i didn't retain the length because i didn't know about hair care until i joined LHCF. this product became too expensive for me to continue so i went to my local health shop and purchase Amino acid/b-complex and i received the same if not better results. if you peek at my natural hair photo's you'll see i went from below shoulder length to near waist length within six months".

Since posting about it i have recieved a number of PMs about ladies who wish to purchase this product from the UK, unfortunately holland & barratt do not ship to UK. My suggestion is, find a reputable brand of all essential/non-essential amino acids and make a comparsion between the potency of HF37. If however, you do not have any luck finding a similar brand, i'm happy to ship to US.

Product comparsion

take a look at this comparsion between the two supplements.

HF37 serving size 6 tablets

L-Isoleucine 200mg
L-Leucine 320mg
L-Lysine 100mg
L-Methionine 240mg
L-Phenylalanine 280mg
L-Threonine 200mg
L-Tryptophan 53mg
L-Valine 280mg
L-Aspartic Acid 240mg
L-Serine 184mg
L-Glutamic Acid 692mg
L-Proline 328mg
L-Glycine 84mg
L-Alanine 104mg
L-Cystine 346mg
L-Tyrosine 109mg
L-Histidine 85mg
L-Arginine 126mg


then look here Holland/Barratts BODY FORTRESS Amino 1500
/i calculated the total mg of 6 serving size. the milligrams are far higher and there's a better chance of high benefits in comparsion to HF37 IMHO. So you can swallow a lot less tablets.

L-Isoleucine 495mg
L-Leucine 1092mg
L-Lysine 862.98mg
L-Methionine 240mg
L-Phenylalanine 321mg
L-Threonine 604.98mg
L-Tryptophan 207mg
L-Valine 468mg
L-Aspartic Acid 1000.02mg
L-Serine 495mg
L-Glutamic Acid 1606.02mg
L-Proline 486mg
L-Glycine 183mg
L-Alanine 486mg
L-Cysteine 247.02mg
L-Tyrosine 301.98mg
L-Histidine 192mg
L-Arginine 256.98mg

 

[diamoness]

Optimum nutrition amino 2222 liquid is good. I got good growth with it and a regular multivitamin. And it tastes good to me.....like bitter strawberry coolaid.

Also twinlabs 1500.......noticed good growth in 2 weeks, I just couldn't stomach the taste. Taste like orange "throw up".

 

[Nanyanika]

Optimum nutrition amino 2222 liquid is good. I got good growth with it and a regular multivitamin. And it tastes good to me.....like bitter strawberry coolaid.

Also twinlabs 1500.......noticed good growth in 2 weeks, I just couldn't stomach the taste. Taste like orange "throw up".

i remember taking the liquid form it was very good but like yours, it tasted sickening lol

 

[LondonDiva]

I was going to advise liquid aminos. Twinlab is a good brand and can be found in London 'Amino Fuel' is what it's called. For the other step I'd try to find a liquid vitamin as they enter the bloodstream quicker and bypass the whole digestion phase that the tablets do yielding better results.

 

[Miz_Complexity]

Hey Den1 do you think that the GNC Pro Performance Isolated soy Protien 95 is the same as HF 37 and the "Holland & Barratts Body fortress amino 1500"
Do it matter if the L- is infornt of the word or is it a different protein.

Here are the list of ingredents

Supplies naturally occurring amino acids— Typical Amino Acid Profile: (Approximate mg per dry powder serving)

Alanine 960 mg
Arginine 1910 mg
Aspartate 2930 mg
Cystine 330 mg
Glutamic Acid 4990 mg
Glycine 1030 mg
Histidine 620 mg
Isoleucine 1170 mg
Leucine 1940 mg
Lysine 1580 mg
Methionine 310 mg
Phenylalanine 1310 mg
Proline 1310 mg
Serine 1310 mg
Threonine 910 mg
Tryptophan 290 mg
Tyrosine 960 mg
Valine 1140 mg

 

[angellazette]

Any other good liquid brands? Or just any liquid amino? I'm interested in liquid vits myself.

 

[angellazette]

Is this the one you all are talking about? I didn't see 1500 on it though.

Supplement Facts
Serving Size 3 TABLESPOONS
Servings Per Container 32 Liquid

Amount Per
Serving % Daily
Value

Calories 100 N/A*

Total Carbohydrate 10 Gm 3%

Protein 15 Gm 30%

Vitamin B1 2.5 Mg 166%

Vitamin B2 2.5 Mg 147%

Niacin 30 Mg 150%

Vitamin B6 4 Mg 200%

Folic Acid 100 Mcg 25%

Vitamin B12 12 Mcg 200%

Biotin 10 Mcg 3%

Pantothenic Acid 30 Mg 300%

Paba 2 Mg N/A*

Choline Bitartrate 100 Mg N/A*

Inositol 100 Mg N/A*

L-Carnitine 25 Mg N/A*

L-Alanine 990 Mg N/A*

L-Arginine 980 Mg N/A*

L-Aspartic Acid 1110 Mg N/A*

L-Cystine 150 Mg N/A*

Glycine 2960 Mg N/A*

L-Glutamic Acid 1840 Mg N/A*

L-Histidine 170 Mg N/A*

L-Isoleucine 360 Mg N/A*

L-Leucine 850 Mg N/A*

L-Lysine 900 Mg N/A*

L-Methionine 180 Mg N/A*

L-Phenylalanine 380 Mg N/A*

L-Proline 1930 Mg N/A*

L-Serine 490 Mg N/A*

L-Threonine 420 Mg N/A*

L-Tryptophan 90 Mg N/A*

L-Tyrosine 210 Mg N/A*

L-Valine 480 Mg N/A

 

[angellazette]

The Optimum Nutrition liquid amino seems to be more potent than Twinlabs, plus it gets another plus for better taste according to diamoness and den! The Optimum is slightly more expensive than the Twinlabs and the Optimum bottle recommends a serving before each meal and before and after training. One serving looks fine enough.

Optimum Nutrition
Amino 2222 Liquid, Tropical Fruit Punch
32 oz
Nutrition Facts
Serving Size: 4 tablespoons (52 ml)
Servings Per Container: 18


Amount
Per Serving % Daily
Value*

Total Calories 120

Total Fat 0 g 0%

Cholesterol 0 mg 0%

Total Carbohydrates 6 g 2%

Sugars 5 g

Protein 22 g 44%

Thiamin (B1) 3.8 mg
Riboflavin (B2) 3.8 mg
Niacin (B3) 46 mg
Pyridoxine (B6) 6.2 mg
Folic Acid 155 mcg
Cyanocobalamin (B12) 18 mcg
Biotin 15 mcg
Pantothenic Acid 46 mg

L-Leucine 740 mg
L-Isoleucine 360 mg
L-Valine 560 mg
L-Lysine 980 mg
L-Methionine 380 mg
L-Phenylalanine 470 mg
L-Threonine 490 mg
L-Tryptophan 10 mg
L-Alanine 2,100 mg
L-Arginine 1,950 mg
L-Aspartic Acid 1,520 mg
L-Cystine 20 mg
L-Glutamic Acid 2,440 mg
L-Glycine 5,570 mg
L-Histidine 270 mg
L-Proline 3,140 mg
L-Serine 870 mg
L-Tyrosine 370 mg

 

[angellazette]

Optimum nutrition amino 2222 liquid is good. I got good growth with it and a regular multivitamin. And it tastes good to me.....like bitter strawberry coolaid.

Also twinlabs 1500.......noticed good growth in 2 weeks, I just couldn't stomach the taste. Taste like orange "throw up".

How much were you taking daily? Did you mix them with anything (water or juice) or just take it by itself? When did you notice growth with the Optimum? It doesn't look like you can get many servings out of the Optimum, how long did it last you?

Sorry for all the questions

 

[diamoness]

I followed the dosage on the bottle.
Twinlabs =====i think it was 3 tbls per day(straight from a spoon)....sorry I dont remember.
But I do know that I saw results with it in 2 wks. I don't measure(only approximate) so I dont know how much......and I stopped before a whole month passed cuz it was too damn nasty.

I then switched to Optimun Nutrition.....I took twice the recommened doseage. Although I did have more than my normal amount of growth (approx. 1/4 inch per month), I didn't see quick, definate, undeniable results like I did with Twinlabs (my new growth was alot thicker too with TLabs).

I actually tried to go back to twinlabs months later..............but...its just too nasty.......I used to hold my nose, tried mixing it with stuff.......nothin helped.

If somebody can come up with a recipe to mask the taste, I would use it again.

 

[diamoness]

yeah, I thought Optimum Nutrition would be more potent too......but that wasn't the case.

 

[angellazette]

bump bump bump

 

[Nanyanika]

Hey Den1 do you think that the GNC Pro Performance Isolated soy Protien 95 is the same as HF 37 and the "Holland & Barratts Body fortress amino 1500"
Do it matter if the L- is infornt of the word or is it a different protein.

Here are the list of ingredents

Supplies naturally occurring amino acids— Typical Amino Acid Profile: (Approximate mg per dry powder serving)

Alanine 960 mg
Arginine 1910 mg
Aspartate 2930 mg
Cystine 330 mg
Glutamic Acid 4990 mg
Glycine 1030 mg
Histidine 620 mg
Isoleucine 1170 mg
Leucine 1940 mg
Lysine 1580 mg
Methionine 310 mg
Phenylalanine 1310 mg
Proline 1310 mg
Serine 1310 mg
Threonine 910 mg
Tryptophan 290 mg
Tyrosine 960 mg
Valine 1140 mg

This one sounds really potent, and that's per mg of powder, it seems like it would be more potent than H&B one that i take. Don't get me wrong i think the one i take yeilds good results, but after reading the this label info I think you've prompted me to be on the look out for one that matches up to this one. I know i'm so greeedy for growth lol

 

[Nanyanika]

Is this the one you all are talking about? I didn't see 1500 on it though.

Supplement Facts
Serving Size 3 TABLESPOONS
Servings Per Container 32 Liquid

Amount Per
Serving % Daily
Value

Calories 100 N/A*

Total Carbohydrate 10 Gm 3%

Protein 15 Gm 30%

Vitamin B1 2.5 Mg 166%

Vitamin B2 2.5 Mg 147%

Niacin 30 Mg 150%

Vitamin B6 4 Mg 200%

Folic Acid 100 Mcg 25%

Vitamin B12 12 Mcg 200%

Biotin 10 Mcg 3%

Pantothenic Acid 30 Mg 300%

Paba 2 Mg N/A*

Choline Bitartrate 100 Mg N/A*

Inositol 100 Mg N/A*

L-Carnitine 25 Mg N/A*

L-Alanine 990 Mg N/A*

L-Arginine 980 Mg N/A*

L-Aspartic Acid 1110 Mg N/A*

L-Cystine 150 Mg N/A*

Glycine 2960 Mg N/A*

L-Glutamic Acid 1840 Mg N/A*

L-Histidine 170 Mg N/A*

L-Isoleucine 360 Mg N/A*

L-Leucine 850 Mg N/A*

L-Lysine 900 Mg N/A*

L-Methionine 180 Mg N/A*

L-Phenylalanine 380 Mg N/A*

L-Proline 1930 Mg N/A*

L-Serine 490 Mg N/A*

L-Threonine 420 Mg N/A*

L-Tryptophan 90 Mg N/A*

L-Tyrosine 210 Mg N/A*

L-Valine 480 Mg N/A

Yep this is the one everyone is talking about, judging by the mg it doesn't seem as potent when compared with HF37 or my H&B brand.

 

[kizzylonghair]

Hi Den,


Yes it is me doing our H37 Replicia. Using Holland and Barrett items.

I read another post that you are taking Amino Liquid instead as well.
GIRL SO AM I for about 1 month, i done my research its the most potent, cheapest, quickiest(no swallowing pills) way to get Amino/protein in to our system.

Happy Growing

Kizzy xx

 

[Nanyanika]

Hi Den,


Yes it is me doing our H37 Replicia. Using Holland and Barrett items.

I read another post that you are taking Amino Liquid instead as well.
GIRL SO AM I for about 1 month, i done my research its the most potent, cheapest, quickiest(no swallowing pills) way to get Amino/protein in to our system.

Happy Growing

Kizzy xx

Hi Kizzy. thanks for confirming that your on the HF37 Replica, i must agree that the holland and barrat products are wondeful, i was also getting very tired of taking large tablets. I'm gonna try and stomach the liquid formula for now lol, it is indded more potent than the tablet form thats why i decided to go back to it. happy growing.

Den1

 

[star]

Can someone post a picture of Holland/Barratts bottle? This is good thread I am using the H37 tablets but would like to use liquids instead. Also what about the the other tablets that are part of H37 system are you just replacing that one with a multi-vitamin or something else?