I am waiting for the day

[maryj1584]

When I am watching TLC what not to wear and the hair stylist has a black client and he actually gives her like good advice, like hair lotions w/ no petroleum or shampoos with no sls or deep conditioning often. It is frustrating that mainstream American hair stylists don’t know about our hair needs. Oh well

 

[Healthb4Length]

when I am watching TLC what not to wear and the hair stylist has a black client and he actually gives her like good advice, like hair lotions w/ no petrolium or shampoos with no sls or deep conditioning often. It is furstrating that mainstream american hair stylists dont know about our hair needs. Oh well

It's also sad and disturbing that in most beauty schools they teach students antiquated info about black hair. This is why so many black women do not have long hair, not because of genetics but because of improper care. Until the beauty industry and schools teach proper care for curly or black hair, then old misguided info and myths will keep recycling themselves.

 

[beyondcute]

It's also sad and disturbing that in most beauty schools they teach students antiquated info about black hair. This is why so many black women do not have long hair, not because of genetics but because of improper care. Until the beauty industry and schools teach proper care for curly or black hair, then old misguided info and myths will keep recycling themselves.

ITA Those cosmetology textbooks are ridiculous and people are generally left to whatever knowledge they already have. *which is usualy nothign much*

 

[Lotus]

I agree. Not to offend anyone, but I think in general, most hair stylist concentrate on style more so than condition of hair. Hair style over hair condition. I'd love to find a salon in my area that cares more about the condition of my hair vs it being fried-died and laid to the side- 'looking good' when I leave the shop. Frustrating.. kinda like finding a good doctor. Some doctors "mask" your symptoms for treating... but never get to root cause of the illness...

 

[Healthb4Length]

I agree. Not to offend anyone, but I think in general, most hair stylist concentrate on style more so than condition of hair. Hair style over hair condition. I'd love to find a salon in my area that cares more about the condition of my hair vs it being fried-died and laid to the side- 'looking good' when I leave the shop. Frustrating.. kinda like finding a good doctor. Some doctors "mask" your symptoms for treating... but never get to root cause of the illness...

Your right, but if they got to the root of the problem then they wouldn't make nearly as much money as if your hair was unhealthy. It's all about the money...

 

[Eiano]

How many women would believe their stylist if they told them not to get a relaxer at 4 weeks, but instead every 3-4 months, and that sometimes they must forgo the curling iron and flat iron?

I know when that day comes my mom would freak.
I keep trying to tell her that she needs to quit with the relaxing every 3 weeks, her hair has been at her neck for the past 10 years, and mine has gone from my neck when she used to do my hair to my brastrap. She STILL thinks what she does it right.


So unfortunately, even though stylists may have the right advice, SOME may not want to give it because their clients WANT that straight, glossy sleek look, and not giving it to them would make them go to another hair stylist.

 

[Healthb4Length]

How many women would believe their stylist if they told them not to get a relaxer at 4 weeks, but instead every 3-4 months, and that sometimes they must forgo the curling iron and flat iron?

I know when that day comes my mom would freak.
I keep trying to tell her that she needs to quit with the relaxing every 3 weeks, her hair has been at her neck for the past 10 years, and mine has gone from my neck when she used to do my hair to my brastrap. She STILL thinks what she does it right.


So unfortunately, even though stylists may have the right advice, SOME may not want to give it because their clients WANT that straight, glossy sleek look, and not giving it to them would make them go to another hair stylist.

True, I hear what your saying. But I think that most women would listen to their stylist if the health of their hair is at stake. There are ways for stylist to get your hair sleek and straight without putting in a load of chemicals. If stylists were really smart, they would some how market a system for hair health without sacrificing style (which can be easily done), they could hold classes on off days training women how to maintain their styles and health of hair and so much more. I think it's up to stylists to educate the next generation on how to have gorgeous hair.

 

[Lotus]

Your right, but if they got to the root of the problem then they wouldn't make nearly as much money as if your hair was unhealthy. It's all about the money...

My point exactly. 10-15 dollars extra for a deep conditioner... come on now. Is there something different in their Organics Olive oil conditior we dont know about- .

A friend of mine is a stylist... while at her shop visiting one day... I heard her tell a woman she will not use Dudley because you no longer have to be licensed to purchase the products. If she used over the counter products, she'd loose clients... what's going to keep them coming back, if they can just go pick up the products and do their hair themselves. I understand her point, that's her livelyhood... but there should be a happy medium. If Dudley products are agreeable to my hair... then use Dudley, ya know.

 

[UmSumayyah]

When I am watching TLC what not to wear and the hair stylist has a black client and he actually gives her like good advice, like hair lotions w/ no petroleum or shampoos with no sls or deep conditioning often. It is frustrating that mainstream American hair stylists don’t know about our hair needs. Oh well

Many black stylists don't know about our needs. How can we expect anyone else to?

 

[Enchantmt]

My point exactly. 10-15 dollars extra for a deep conditioner... come on now. Is there something different in their Organics Olive oil conditior we dont know about- .

A friend of mine is a stylist... while at her shop visiting one day... I heard her tell a woman she will not use Dudley because you no longer have to be licensed to purchase the products. If she used over the counter products, she'd loose clients... what's going to keep them coming back, if they can just go pick up the products and do their hair themselves. I understand her point, that's her livelyhood... but there should be a happy medium. If Dudley products are agreeable to my hair... then use Dudley, ya know.

When I used to go to the shop I used to go because I wanted someone else to do it, not because I couldnt do it myself. The best hairstylist I ever had used to use cheap products so I used to bring my own. I introduced him to all sorts of stuff. Bottom line, if she's GOOD, she wont lose business.

 

[maryj1584]

This is so true, UmSumayyah. I am so glad I found hair boards and inspirational fotki albums because I would have still been relaxing once every 4 weeks frying my hair till the death. Black stylists really need to step their game up. I am from Africa and some of the stylists there are just plain clueless, they overlap relaxer on all the hair EVERYTIME they relax a head, even some of the stylists have TORE UP hair, and when I went to do my hair there last Christmas, she was like u have such pretty hair and proceeded to bring a hand held dryer to dry my hair. I was like No, please I roller set it only.

Many black stylists don't know about our needs. How can we expect anyone else to?

 

[maryj1584]

This is why I give up on salons, they charge you so much extra just for a basic service like deep conditioning, and they know that it is vital for our hair health, but yet they make the healthier choice the more expensive one. I give up on salons, I just ordered a pibbs dryer and I am going to learn how to flat wrap perfectly like they do. I already have the roller setting part down.

My point exactly. 10-15 dollars extra for a deep conditioner... come on now. Is there something different in their Organics Olive oil conditior we dont know about- .

A friend of mine is a stylist... while at her shop visiting one day... I heard her tell a woman she will not use Dudley because you no longer have to be licensed to purchase the products. If she used over the counter products, she'd loose clients... what's going to keep them coming back, if they can just go pick up the products and do their hair themselves. I understand her point, that's her livelyhood... but there should be a happy medium. If Dudley products are agreeable to my hair... then use Dudley, ya know.