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Flat twist-outs are my specialty!!! I find that you get the best definition from using gel, not butters or oils. I use Long Aid (Walmart), it give you moisture, a decent hold, and helps to weigh the hair down. I also make my flat twists medium-size, not to big, not to small.
I never used gel in mine, just moisturizer. What I did was make sure I did them tight and i made sure they were fully dry when i took them out. The longer in the better defined...in my opinion. HTH
I will usually wear my flat twists as a style for at least a day (more if I'm being lazy
). I guess that allows them to REALLY set. I may try to use gel with them. I've actually never done that before.