Thank you HPG. I will try searching like that. I typed it in exactly how it's spelled and didn't come up with much. I see a lot of her products have cones in it. Are those water soluble cones or? I never use them, but I don't mind washing with a sulfate shampoo I guess. I feel like sulfate or not, they dry my hair it really doesn't matter to me at this point. Another thing that concerned me was the glycerin. I don't know much about glycerin, but I have read that they aren't good in the winter and I live in the Midwest. If you come back this thread, what's the climate like where you live and do you find that products that contain glycerin adversely affect your hair in certain climates?