Are Salon Products Really Better? (Article)

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With Love & Silk
Are Salon Products Really Better?
Hair-Styles.com

You left the salon with a bag of goodies that your stylist swore you could not live without and now you wonder if what they sold you is nothing more than well packaged snake oil.

The simple answer is that salon products are for the most part much better than the products sold at your local grocer, but that is only the simple answer to a rather complex question.

1. What makes salon products better than over the counter products?
Ingredients. When you examine the ingredient list on a bottle of shampoo, what you see listed first is what there is most of in the bottle and so on until the end of the list which is what there is least of in the bottle.

The first ingredient will frequently be water and the last ingredient is often a dye. Toward the top of the list you will notice an ingredient such as ammonium laurel sulfate, sodium laurel sulfate, or sodium laureth sulfate.

These are surfactants. Their purpose is to make water wetter, or to put it differently, to help the cleaning agents lather. A surfactant can also be a cleaning agent in and of itself. Salon products should contain gentler surfactants than your store bought shampoo.

You will then see some conditioning agents listed. Your salon shampoo should contain higher quality protein based conditioners or moisturizing conditioners, thus enabling the conditioner to penetrate deeper into the hair shaft or scalp and lock in moisture. These quality ingredients contribute to the cost of the product and is why they are not typically found in store bought products.

The remaining ingredients are largely consumer appeal ingredients, or what we call 'fluff'. These contribute towards color, aroma, and consumer buzz words such as honey and aloe.

Although it is true that honey can have beneficial affects on your hair, it is very unlikely that it can do anything in the quantity available in the bottle. Honey is added as an ingredient to appeal to your idea of what is good, whether it is based on scientific fact or not. Aloe is nothing more than water unless it is stabilized aloe.

Lastly, a few ingredients are stabilizers and preservatives, but the most important ingredients to keep your eyes on are the surfactants. We prefer the sodium laureth sulfate. It is the gentlest of the surfactants but will lather very little which is why most shampoos won't use it. Consumers believe their hair isn't getting clean unless there are tons of bubbles. In truth lather has no beneficial affect and contributes little to good cleaning.

Of late there have been rumors making their way about the Internet that sodium laureth sulfate causes cancer. To the best of our knowledge this is pure bunk. In all likelihood this rumor was circulated by over the counter manufacturers to combat salon products taking an ever greater hold on consumer preference. To the contrary, it is our opinion that the sodium laureth sulfate is infinitely safer than the ammonium laurel sulfate which is usually found in the cheaper brands.

2. Which is the best product line?
Salon products vary in their quality and many product lines were build around only a few exceptional products, with the remainder being only average. To address this problem it should behoove a salon to carry a good variety of product lines to address the needs of all clients.

The rest is a matter of consumer preference to aroma, color and packaging. Our current personal favorites are, Graham Webb Classic, Graham Webb Intensives, Graham Webb Head Games, American Crew, M.O.P., and Dudley's for African American hair, but there are many more good lines.

3. I bought the salon products and they didn't work, or they worked for awhile and then didn't work anymore. What's up with that?
Sadly, very few stylists know anything about ingredients, (or for that matter the manufacturer reps), and what they do know is what the manufacturers have told them, which is to say the least questionable data.

In our salon we list two common ingredients on the back board every week and stylists are expected to learn what their benefits and detriments are. Stylists are then quizzed on these ingredients on a regular basis. You might want to recommend to your salon that they do the same. Hair is 90% chemistry, and 10% creativity. (This comment is certain to result in letters of choice words for me).

If your products didn't work at all, chances are your stylist prescribed the wrong product for your hair. It is not a reflection on the line itself, but of the stylist or the salon.

If the product worked at first but then stopped working after a few months, chances are that the climate changed. Products that are right for you during one season are not always the best during another. There is also the possibility that the stylist prescribed the wrong product for you or that you are undergoing hormonal changes.

4. What about salons that carry ten or more lines?
Many of these are what we call "phantom" salons.

Typically they have a large store front brimming with salon products and a few salon stations tucked away in the back. They are more dedicated to selling retail than meeting their clients needs. There is simply no way you can carry that many products and really understand the benefits to any of them.

The only reason these salons even bother to cut hair is because they are not otherwise allowed to sell salon-only products. They are really retailers, hence the term "phantom" salon. I would not buy my products there as you also run the risk of purchasing low quality fakes (counterfeit products).

5. What about salons that carry only one line?
Unless the salon is owned by someone like Robert Cromeans, (excellent man, excellent salons), who is the artistic director for Paul Mitchell, and thus understandably only carries the one line, I frown on what we call "concept" salons.

A salon should never be a slave to a manufacturer. When a salon does this they are more concerned about what is good for the manufacturer than what is good for the client.

6. My salon has put me on a line of pure organic products, is that good?
Yes, its great, but unless they actually blended the products right there from fresh ingredients, its also bull hooey. You simply cannot create a store line without preservatives. The ingredients would spoil before the product made it onto the shelf.

If you really want an organic product, please go to hair-news.com's "The Lab" department and make your own. There are many good books on the subject and we recommend two of them in that section.

Some over the counter products are just plain bad for your hair. In our opinion just a few of these are, "Pantene" which leaves heavy deposits on your hair of a silicon like substance that will eventually cause static hair and hair breakage, and we detest all of the non-prescription type "dandruff" shampoos.

Almost nobody has dandruff, and those who do need prescription medication. Dandruff is not flakes. Flakes are caused by dry scalp, not dandruff. The dandruff shampoo industry has made billions convincing Americans that they have dandruff. Dandruff is like a yellow or gray oily powder and clumps together in little balls, not flakes. If you use a good shampoo and conditioner, your scalp will soon stop flaking. I know. I used to be a diehard "Head & Shoulders" user.

Hopefully this gave you some insight into the salon product world and all of the traps out there to get your buck.

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I read another article that also stated Pantene was the worst drug-store product. I had been using it for about 5 years up until March upon hearing all of this bad stuff about it. What's strange is that so many people on this board loved it. I always loved what it did for my hair, too but the article left me wondering if my hair really was just getting coated and only "felt" good.

Still, I am anxious to try Pantene Hydrating Curls. I will just have to remember to clarify if I use it too often!
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Very interesting article. It seems to me that Trade Secret would fit the definition of a "phantom salon". The one near me only has a few stations in the back of the store (maybe 4) where they do hair. I have only bought nail polish from them, but the article makes me wonder if the hair products sold there are "the real deal".
 
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Very interesting article. It seems to me that Trade Secret would fit the definition of a "phantom salon". The one near me only has a few stations in the back of the store (maybe 4) where they do hair. I have only bought nail polish from them, but the article makes me wonder if the hair products sold there are "the real deal".

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That is funny that you would mention them. On occasion when I have time and money I go to a trade secret beutician and she is the bomb. She always tells me tips on how to improve my hair. 3 tips she told me made he biggest difference in my pre board days.
 
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I read another article that also stated Pantene was the worst drug-store product. I had been using it for about 5 years up until March upon hearing all of this bad stuff about it. What's strange is that so many people on this board loved it. I always loved what it did for my hair, too but the article left me wondering if my hair really was just getting coated and only "felt" good.

Still, I am anxious to try Pantene Hydrating Curls. I will just have to remember to clarify if I use it too often!
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Really? People on this board loved it? Not I!
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very drying, and harsh.

Yes I read that article a while back. IMO it just depends. Most of my products are salon products and work great! I also like V-05 conditioners too, and that's about one of the cheapest products you can buy. In fact...it is the cheapest you can buy.
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Now - where on earth in NY did you find a Trade Secret CBG?

I love these salons for products...but never saw them in NYC...
 
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1. What makes salon products better than over the counter products?

Ingredients. When you examine the ingredient list...

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I've noticed that a lot of salon brands have the same ingredients as drugstore brands. Nexxus, Mizani, Keracare, etc. have SLES, ALS, etc. Just like Pantene, Suave and Tresemme.

Why do I get the impression the article was written by someone who owns or works in a salon...
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Trade Secret came to my mind as well, as does Ulta. However, I do trust the products that they sell and have had good results from them.
 
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Of late there have been rumors making their way about the Internet that sodium laureth sulfate causes cancer. To the best of our knowledge this is pure bunk. In all likelihood this rumor was circulated by over the counter manufacturers to combat salon products taking an ever greater hold on consumer preference. To the contrary, it is our opinion that the sodium laureth sulfate is infinitely safer than the ammonium laurel sulfate which is usually found in the cheaper brands.

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Thanks for sahring, but I thought that it wasn't a rumor about the SLS & SLES being bad for your hair. Here is a site that states something different www.lindachae.com
 
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but I thought that it wasn't a rumor about the SLS & SLES being bad for your hair.

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All is know is that sles, sls, ales and als make my hair feel stripped and rough. If I use a shampoo with sulfates, I prefer sodium myreth sulfate or tea lauryl sulfate.

I use shampoos with als and ales as clarifying shampoos.
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I don't even like als or ales in my clarifying shampoos.
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I agree with what the article had to say about those two surfactants.
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I've found a clarifying shampoo that gets my hair squeaky clean without leaving it feeling rough and stripped. With relaxed, colored hair, I don't need that.
 
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Why do I get the impression the article was written by someone who owns or works in a salon...
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Yeah, I'm pretty sure it was.
I mean saying "our favorites are..." kinda gives it away. There's this website Behind The Chair where stylists and salon owners have a discussion board. It's very interesting for the average consumer to see what the actual stylists think about certain products. Click on Talk Back over on the left to go to the discussion board. The Products and Retailing section has some interesting threads.
I spent a while on that board and learned that stylists and salon owners generally don't like stores like Trade Secret or Ulta, and they freak out when they see salon products at the drugstore. Something called diversion...The average consumer knows nothing of all the gritty details involved with salons and where they get their products and so on. Very interesting read. If you poke around for a while you can find out some products that the stylists recommend for different problems. That's really the only reason I went there to begin with
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Tracy,
There is a Trade Secret in the White Plains Mall. Being that I live in the Bronx it is pretty easy for me to get to by metro north.
 
I'm pretty sure that places like Trade Secret and Ulta cut into the percentages they receive from manufacturers for pushing their products.
 
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I've found a clarifying shampoo that gets my hair squeaky clean without leaving it feeling rough and stripped.

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What is the name?
 
I just went to that site that you suggested. It is amazing how incompetent they think people are at doing their own hair. And I read the thread where they are mad that Sally's is giving out discount cards to non-professionals but then say how they wouldn't shop there anyway because it is low class.
 
Interesting. I go to Trade Secrets (in St. Louis) to get my hair done. I've been going for the past three years. I've never had a problem and have never had my stylist (who is the bomb BTW) "push" and products on me. I have to ask her.

She recommended the new Biolage conditioner (which works like a charm) and a few Aveda products. They don't sell Aveda in Trade Secrets, so that should tell you something about my stylist.

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I just went to that site that you suggested. It is amazing how incompetent they think people are at doing their own hair. And I read the thread where they are mad that Sally's is giving out discount cards to non-professionals but then say how they wouldn't shop there anyway because it is low class.

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wow..that is just too much! lOok at a quote from one of the posters..
"Don't worry those same people who are getting "Our" discount are going to be the same people, who will need to spend alot of money with us to fix, what was such a great savings at the time. : )" and
"I think Sally's is a "Skanky" store....frankly I never go there anymore......it's dirty and gross......the colors are weird and all that....yes I think everyone thinks we shop there YUCKY!"

lol, hey, I Shop there!! Since when did sally's become skanky
 
Yeah I read that lol. They are mad at people that color/relax their own hair but I don't get why they are calling it skanky.
 
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