I've just BC'd 3 weeks ago. Try YouTube for some great tutorials for defining curls. I cowash every other day with Trader Joe's and shampoo on Sundays which is also when I DC. I think the key is finding the right product and then the right technique. You can define your curls with conditioner only or you can layer products. I use Giovanni Direct Leave-in, sometimes S-Curl, olive oil, and then Ecostyler gel. Ecostyler gel really defines my curls. You can use different methods to define your curls - you can just run product through your hair, you can shingle, use the rake and smooth method, or the shake and go method, or a combination of the above! You just figure out what works for you. For me, I apply my gel in sections, and rake the gel then smooth it through each section. I'm a little heavy handed with it, I hope to improve my technique with practice. After I have applied all of the product I do a cold rinse on my hair, plop it with a t-shirt or a paper towel, shake my hair, and let it air dry. I try not to mess with it too much. I usually do my hair at night so I cover with a bonnet before going to sleep. In the morning my hair is still wet but I spray a little more water, S-curl, and some olive oil on it, run my fingers through it, and leave it alone. If I'm going to work and it's really wet I may use a diffuser. (It's been really cold here and I'm not catching pneumonia trying to look cute!) So far so good, but I'm going to try the conditioner only method next weekend. I learned through a YouTube video that you can create different looks depending on whether you use your fingers or a denman, etc. A denman does seem to give more shrinkage, but super defined curls. Your fingers will define well also, you'll always have shrinkage but it seems a tad more stretched. Just experiment and see what works for you!