Ovation Cell Therapy/Mega-Tek Challenge

[CocoBunny]

Help!! There seems to be a problem. I got my OCT last week and use the cell therapy on my scalp daily daily, I don’t see any growth, but my hair has gotten very soft, kind of spongy and long strands are breaking off. I’m thinking to much moisture? Here’s my routine; deep condition 3x per week with a moisturizing conditioner. I then do the whole OCT routine (shampoo, cell therapy and crème rinse). Next I towel dry my hair put more cell therapy on my scalp and run it lightly across all my hair, seal with castor oil or Alma oil, then baggy the ends in a pony tail. On the days I don’t DC, I use the cell therapy on my scalp at night and don’t rinse off until the next DC and wash day. This morning I took off the baggy ran my fingers thru the ends of my hair and about 25 long strands came off in my hand. When pulled the strands stretched then snapped almost instantly.

Any advice, observations or suggestions would be greatly appreciated..

 

[WomanlyCharm]

Help!! There seems to be a problem. I got my OCT last week and use the cell therapy on my scalp daily daily, I don’t see any growth, but my hair has gotten very soft, kind of spongy and long strands are breaking off. I’m thinking to much moisture? Here’s my routine; deep condition 3x per week with a moisturizing conditioner. I then do the whole OCT routine (shampoo, cell therapy and crème rinse). Next I towel dry my hair put more cell therapy on my scalp and run it lightly across all my hair, seal with castor oil or Alma oil, then baggy the ends in a pony tail. On the days I don’t DC, I use the cell therapy on my scalp at night and don’t rinse off until the next DC and wash day. This morning I took off the baggy ran my fingers thru the ends of my hair and about 25 long strands came off in my hand. When pulled the strands stretched then snapped almost instantly.

Any advice, observations or suggestions would be greatly appreciated..

A couple of things...

Sounds like moisture overload, that will make the hair soft and spongy.
Baggying can do that, it was terrible on my hair, I had to stop doing it. I'd also cut back on the DCing for now.

I found leaving the cell therapy on my hair left it very dry...I'd just put it on your scalp, not the entire lenght of the hair (unless you're going to wash it out soon).

Alot of us using OTC did experience shedding, but believe that was just the hair follicle getting rid of the old and cranking out the new. the shedding didn't last long at all.

Good luck!

 

[jrae]

excellent advice I am amping up my moisture because I haven't seen this much protein since back in my relaxer days... I don't want my hair to go to fussin...

I normally pre-poo with Mayonnaise yep: Best Foods/Hellman's). My hair didn't like it this time - its too much protein. So, I'm gonna keep it simple like I did last week... just the Ovation trio. I don't even need a light oil like Coconut anymore. I do still use my Lacio Lacio for rollersetting in between washes and that seems to be the perfect regimen for me.

 

[CocoBunny]

A couple of things...

Sounds like moisture overload, that will make the hair soft and spongy.
Baggying can do that, it was terrible on my hair, I had to stop doing it. I'd also cut back on the DCing for now.

I found leaving the cell therapy on my hair left it very dry...I'd just put it on your scalp, not the entire lenght of the hair (unless you're going to wash it out soon).

Alot of us using OTC did experience shedding, but believe that was just the hair follicle getting rid of the old and cranking out the new. the shedding didn't last long at all.

Good luck!

Thank you so much for the advice I am kind of in a state of panic. I've never had this sort of thing happen to my hair before. Do you think that Apogee 2 minute reconstructor will help firm up the hair or will stopping baggying take care of the problem?

 

[jrae]

Thank you so much for the advice I am kind of in a state of panic. I've never had this sort of thing happen to my hair before. Do you think that Apogee 2 minute reconstructor will help firm up the hair or will stopping baggying take care of the problem?

I agree with WomanlyCharm and 3x a week seems like a lot of DC'ing to me. I would stop baggying until your next wash and then just use the Ovation trio and evaluate it from there.

 

[vegasQT]

This morning I took off the baggy ran my fingers thru the ends of my hair and about 25 long strands came off in my hand. When pulled the strands stretched then snapped almost instantly.


Oh please don't say that.....

 

[tt8]

I knew jk had an answer. Now when you get sec please let a sista know about that protein overload Ms. OCT rep was talkin about and how the Creme Rinse is supposed to help. (they shole kept that one to themselves for the longest )

I haven't experienced any dryness, but I HAVE learned that I don't need ANY other protein treatments while I'm using this - I did my usual light protein treatment (yogurt & coconut milk) a couple of weeks ago, and my hair was definitely complaining a little about having too much protein on it - I could tell because the breakage that had virtually vanished, reappeared.
A mid-week moisture boost (just a lil conditioner on dry hair) and the hair was happy/breakage free again - but I know going forward, I don't need ANY other protein treatments. I'm actually a little nervous about doing my usual henna treatment, since it acts like a protein for me - I'll just have to do an extra DC or two afterwards and really baby my hair.

I started the mix to make the Mega-Tek better mimic the ingredients that were in the Ovation - extra amino acids (SAA), toperhyl acetate (vitamin E), and OCT has a castor oil derivative in it too. The Honeyquat I add to everything, to boost the moisture content a bit since I know how thirsty my hair is.

Since you are texalaxed, I would suspect that your hair MIGHT be able to handle a little more protein that it would if it was natural - but keep a close eye on it, and be ready to slap on a quick DC of your choice if it seems to be complaining.

excellent advice I am amping up my moisture because I haven't seen this much protein since back in my relaxer days... I don't want my hair to go to fussin...

 

[gorgeoushair]

I just got on board OCT. But I have a problem ---- my hair HATES protein. How do you guys combat the tons of protein in this stuff. I just recovered from a protein overload & I don't want to go back.

How do you plan on using it?

 

[AtlantaJJ]

Oooh, REALLLY??? Hrrrm.

Would you mind posting the ingredients in your Cream Rinse??? Or, anyone who has ordered recently from Ovation? I'm starting to suspect that the online ingredient lists aren't always the most accurate/recent, and I want to compare the Ovation CR to the MegaTek CR.....

TIA!!!

I totally understand why the OCT is a system now...it's a serious protein / moisture balance game with the Cell Tec / Mega-Tek...

I am definately suspect of some of the ingredients lists out on the web, because my Avacodo mix is different than what's posted on the web site. Someone just ordered the AM from Eqyss directly and their ingredients matched mine.

I've been out her lurkin' and learnin' from you ladies on the forum, I've controlled that pj'ism but jumped on this
bandwagon...soft silky hair...hair that grows with the speed of light....

At any rate, I ordered the entire 12 oz OCT system this morning along with the super duper horse detangler, grabbed
some Aubrey's Honeysuckle Rose condish and plan to toss most of this other stuff.

I'm excited and so very grateful to have just ONE system in the cabinet.

Thanks to everyone... now I'm back to reading and lurking.

Take Care

You can't go back to lurking now, we will come and find you You have to keep us posted with your progress. We need to have a huge LHCF yard sale for real because I got so much stuff, I need a special room just to keep it all! It would be nice to narrow it down to about 8 things! LOL

I normally pre-poo with Mayonnaise yep: Best Foods/Hellman's). My hair didn't like it this time - its too much protein. So, I'm gonna keep it simple like I did last week... just the Ovation trio. I don't even need a light oil like Coconut anymore. I do still use my Lacio Lacio for rollersetting in between washes and that seems to be the perfect regimen for me.

Man ya'll making me want to go for the OCT but I'm trying to hold out for the LHCF discount!! What are they waiting for???

 

[Shaley]

Help!! There seems to be a problem. I got my OCT last week and use the cell therapy on my scalp daily daily, I don’t see any growth, but my hair has gotten very soft, kind of spongy and long strands are breaking off. I’m thinking to much moisture? Here’s my routine; deep condition 3x per week with a moisturizing conditioner. I then do the whole OCT routine (shampoo, cell therapy and crème rinse). Next I towel dry my hair put more cell therapy on my scalp and run it lightly across all my hair, seal with castor oil or Alma oil, then baggy the ends in a pony tail. On the days I don’t DC, I use the cell therapy on my scalp at night and don’t rinse off until the next DC and wash day. This morning I took off the baggy ran my fingers thru the ends of my hair and about 25 long strands came off in my hand. When pulled the strands stretched then snapped almost instantly.

Any advice, observations or suggestions would be greatly appreciated..

This is the exact regimen I do and I immediately lose an excessive amount of hairs after using the creme rinse.

I will wash next week without the creme rinse and see if it makes any difference...

 

[Shaley]

I like the creme rinse. It detangles well for me. How long are you leaving it on? Since the Cell Therapy is protein, maybe you're leaving that on too long and the creme rinse not long enough? Just a thought...

You may be right.

The last time I used the creme rinse my regimen was:

1. Shampooed with Color Therapy
2. Applied Cell therapy to scalp and hair.
3. Left in overnight
4. Next morning - applied creme rinse for 1-2 minutes and rinsed out
5. Hair was severely dry, tangled and coming out excessively.

Maybe I should not have left the cell therapy in overnight?? Maybe that was too long??
I don't know but I really wish I could experience the results everyone is

 

[RZILYNT]

Oooh, REALLLY??? Hrrrm.

Would you mind posting the ingredients in your Cream Rinse??? Or, anyone who has ordered recently from Ovation? I'm starting to suspect that the online ingredient lists aren't always the most accurate/recent, and I want to compare the Ovation CR to the MegaTek CR.....

TIA!!!

deonized water, behentrimonium methyl sulfate*(Derived from Plant extract) cetearyl alcohol, cetyl alcohol, cetrimonium chloride, hydroxyethycellose, propoxytetramethyl C13-C14 isopariffin cyclomethicone piperidynl dimethicone trideceth 3 trideceth 6 dimeticone, aloe vera gel, propyparaben ,dmdm, hydantion,frangrance.
(alchols derived from palm oil)

The writing is so small on the bottle I had to get a magnifying glass in addition to my bifocals....good grief.

RZ~

 

[jrae]

You may be right.

The last time I used the creme rinse my regimen was:

1. Shampooed with Color Therapy
2. Applied Cell therapy to scalp and hair.
3. Left in overnight
4. Next morning - applied creme rinse for 1-2 minutes and rinsed out
5. Hair was severely dry, tangled and coming out excessively.

Maybe I should not have left the cell therapy in overnight?? Maybe that was too long??
I don't know but I really wish I could experience the results everyone is

Are your strands "fine"? Mine are. I can have Cell Therapy on my scalp for days and days, but only a couple of minutes on my hair. You're just wanting to get all you can from the Cell Therapy . (me, too ). Don't overdo it. You can apply it to your scalp the next day and encourage the growth you're looking for.

 

[eshille]

I totally understand why the OCT is a system now...it's a serious protein / moisture balance game with the Cell Tec / Mega-Tek...

Atlanta, I really think you're on the button with that assessment. I've started re-reading the entire thread and I've decided I shall only use the system per
package directions. I am planning to TRY daily wash n go's for the next month which would mean daily applications, however if that doesn't work out then
I'll go back to washing 2x per week.

You can't go back to lurking now, we will come and find you You have to keep us posted with your progress. We need to have a huge LHCF yard sale for real because I got so much stuff, I need a special room just to keep it all! It would be nice to narrow it down to about 8 things! LOL

I'll keep y'all posted . Not too sure about pics though...don't have a camera but I guess over this year I could buy one.

Take Care

 

[Jetblackhair]

Are your strands "fine"? Mine are. I can have Cell Therapy on my scalp for days and days, but only a couple of minutes on my hair. You're just wanting to get all you can from the Cell Therapy . (me, too ). Don't overdo it. You can apply it to your scalp the next day and encourage the growth you're looking for.

ITA, I have fine hair and I apply Mega-Tek only to my dry scalp and not the length of my hair on most days. When I shampoo, I apply MTR/OCT to my scalp & hair, only keeping it on for 5 minutes and then rinsing. I then apply a conditioner for a few minutes and then rinse out.

This morning I used the OCT rinse (just received) & then I used my normal Herbal Essence conditioner. I only lost about 7-10 strands of hair, if that, amazing for me.

 

[JustKiya]

Help!! There seems to be a problem. I got my OCT last week and use the cell therapy on my scalp daily daily, I don’t see any growth, but my hair has gotten very soft, kind of spongy and long strands are breaking off. I’m thinking to much moisture?

Here’s my routine;
deep condition 3x per week with a moisturizing conditioner.
I then do the whole OCT routine (shampoo, cell therapy and crème rinse). Next I towel dry my hair put more cell therapy on my scalp and run it lightly across all my hair,
seal with castor oil or Alma oil,
then baggy the ends in a pony tail.
On the days I don’t DC, I use the cell therapy on my scalp at night and don’t rinse off until the next DC and wash day.
This morning I took off the baggy ran my fingers thru the ends of my hair and about 25 long strands came off in my hand. When pulled the strands stretched then snapped almost instantly.

Any advice, observations or suggestions would be greatly appreciated..

Ooohweee! That sounds like a SERIOUS moisture overload - you, my dear, have overmoisturised your hair. Now! This is nothing to be upset/worried about, as you are now in the fabulous position of having maxed out your hairs moisture level, and from now on, all you have to do is maintain.

I would NOT jump to the heavy-duty protein just yet - that'll throw off that lovely balance you are almost at. Instead, drop the DC's to once a week, for the next week, and drop the baggying to once a week, as well. That should give your hair time to 'naturally' dry out a little, and if you continue with the full OCT line, I really think that it will give you just the right balance that you need.

Just remember to continue to be GENTLE with your hair - you want to ramp down the moisture gradually, and you don't want to break a lot of hair in the process. Treat your hair like an invalid for a little while.....

If after the week, your hair is still 'spongy', step it up to a light/medium protein treatment - remember, you WANT your hair to be moist, just not THAT moist - and you don't want to overcompensate and ramp up the protein TOO much. I'd suspect that your hair should be good at that point - and you can continue on maintaining it - once weekly DC's/sealing/baggying, three times a week with the full Ovation line, daily Cell Therapy treatment
I think you'll be set!

As far as the long strands coming out, I suspect that a GOOD sign - that should be the shed that most people experience when the OCT/MT starts working - since it's speeding up the rate of your follicles, all of the hairs that were CLOSE to shedding, are shedding right now so that those brand new, fast growing hairs can come shooting out of the follicles.

The shedding usually slows down after the first week or two, right ladies?

Something that your predicament is making me wonder though - how long have you been on your regimen (without the Ovation)?? If in just a week, something changed in your hair enough to make it OVERMOISTURISED - that's' got me thinking that the Ovation line actually HELPS your hair retain moisture better - which is why all that you were doing is suddenly overkill, now.

Hrrrm, that would be MOST interesting.

Anyone else noticing that their previous reggie seems to be working BETTER/FASTER now?

I knew jk had an answer. Now when you get sec please let a sista know about that protein overload Ms. OCT rep was talkin about and how the Creme Rinse is supposed to help. (they shole kept that one to themselves for the longest )

Okay. What I suspect is going on, is that the Creme Rinse (based off of the ingredients that the fabulous RZILYNT strained her eyes to see!) has NO protein in it, at all. I'd have to do some investigation of the ingredients (as I don't recognize a blamed one, besides the water ), but I'd suspect most of the ingredients are moisturisers, and thus, it balances out the levels of protein in the CT. And, I betcha the shampoo has SLS in it, which would 'strip' any additional protein residue off of your hair.

I'm totally guessing, based on her answer and the ingredients I know, but I betcha that's what's going on.

deonized water, behentrimonium methyl sulfate*(Derived from Plant extract) cetearyl alcohol, cetyl alcohol, cetrimonium chloride, hydroxyethycellose, propoxytetramethyl C13-C14 isopariffin cyclomethicone piperidynl dimethicone trideceth 3 trideceth 6 dimeticone, aloe vera gel, propyparaben ,dmdm, hydantion,frangrance.
(alchols derived from palm oil)

The writing is so small on the bottle I had to get a magnifying glass in addition to my bifocals....good grief.

RZ~

THANK YOU!!!!


Hrrm. The Eqyss version (Cloud Nine) is definitely different, but I suspect if I took a look at the ingredients, the 'different' ones would be the ones that make your hair 'feel' good, and makes it 'thicker' and makes it 'lather' up. I might do a product deconstruction tomorrow.....

 

[Jetblackhair]

Ooohweee! That sounds like a SERIOUS moisture overload - you, my dear, have overmoisturised your hair. Now! This is nothing to be upset/worried about, as you are now in the fabulous position of having maxed out your hairs moisture level, and from now on, all you have to do is maintain.

I would NOT jump to the heavy-duty protein just yet - that'll throw off that lovely balance you are almost at. Instead, drop the DC's to once a week, for the next week, and drop the baggying to once a week, as well. That should give your hair time to 'naturally' dry out a little, and if you continue with the full OCT line, I really think that it will give you just the right balance that you need.

Just remember to continue to be GENTLE with your hair - you want to ramp down the moisture gradually, and you don't want to break a lot of hair in the process. Treat your hair like an invalid for a little while.....

If after the week, your hair is still 'spongy', step it up to a light/medium protein treatment - remember, you WANT your hair to be moist, just not THAT moist - and you don't want to overcompensate and ramp up the protein TOO much. I'd suspect that your hair should be good at that point - and you can continue on maintaining it - once weekly DC's/sealing/baggying, three times a week with the full Ovation line, daily Cell Therapy treatment
I think you'll be set!

As far as the long strands coming out, I suspect that a GOOD sign - that should be the shed that most people experience when the OCT/MT starts working - since it's speeding up the rate of your follicles, all of the hairs that were CLOSE to shedding, are shedding right now so that those brand new, fast growing hairs can come shooting out of the follicles.

The shedding usually slows down after the first week or two, right ladies?

Something that your predicament is making me wonder though - how long have you been on your regimen (without the Ovation)?? If in just a week, something changed in your hair enough to make it OVERMOISTURISED - that's' got me thinking that the Ovation line actually HELPS your hair retain moisture better - which is why all that you were doing is suddenly overkill, now.

Hrrrm, that would be MOST interesting.

Anyone else noticing that their previous reggie seems to be working BETTER/FASTER now?



Okay. What I suspect is going on, is that the Creme Rinse (based off of the ingredients that the fabulous RZILYNT strained her eyes to see!) has NO protein in it, at all. I'd have to do some investigation of the ingredients (as I don't recognize a blamed one, besides the water ), but I'd suspect most of the ingredients are moisturisers, and thus, it balances out the levels of protein in the CT. And, I betcha the shampoo has SLS in it, which would 'strip' any additional protein residue off of your hair.

I'm totally guessing, based on her answer and the ingredients I know, but I betcha that's what's going on.



THANK YOU!!!!


Hrrm. The Eqyss version (Cloud Nine) is definitely different, but I suspect if I took a look at the ingredients, the 'different' ones would be the ones that make your hair 'feel' good, and makes it 'thicker' and makes it 'lather' up. I might do a product deconstruction tomorrow.....

By george I think you've figured it out. The Color Therapy shampoo does contain SLS. I think it's the 2nd ingredient. Very interesting.

 

[Aggie]

ITA, I have fine hair and I apply Mega-Tek only to my dry scalp and not the length of my hair on most days. When I shampoo, I apply MTR/OCT to my scalp & hair, only keeping it on for 5 minutes and then rinsing. I then apply a conditioner for a few minutes and then rinse out.

This morning I used the OCT rinse (just received) & then I used my normal Herbal Essence conditioner. I only lost about 7-10 strands of hair, if that, amazing for me.

I like this reggie JBH. I think I'll be using this one. It makes good sense too. Thanks for posting.

 

[CocoBunny]

Ooohweee! That sounds like a SERIOUS moisture overload - you, my dear, have overmoisturised your hair. Now! This is nothing to be upset/worried about, as you are now in the fabulous position of having maxed out your hairs moisture level, and from now on, all you have to do is maintain.

I would NOT jump to the heavy-duty protein just yet - that'll throw off that lovely balance you are almost at. Instead, drop the DC's to once a week, for the next week, and drop the baggying to once a week, as well. That should give your hair time to 'naturally' dry out a little, and if you continue with the full OCT line, I really think that it will give you just the right balance that you need.

Just remember to continue to be GENTLE with your hair - you want to ramp down the moisture gradually, and you don't want to break a lot of hair in the process. Treat your hair like an invalid for a little while.....

If after the week, your hair is still 'spongy', step it up to a light/medium protein treatment - remember, you WANT your hair to be moist, just not THAT moist - and you don't want to overcompensate and ramp up the protein TOO much. I'd suspect that your hair should be good at that point - and you can continue on maintaining it - once weekly DC's/sealing/baggying, three times a week with the full Ovation line, daily Cell Therapy treatment
I think you'll be set!

As far as the long strands coming out, I suspect that a GOOD sign - that should be the shed that most people experience when the OCT/MT starts working - since it's speeding up the rate of your follicles, all of the hairs that were CLOSE to shedding, are shedding right now so that those brand new, fast growing hairs can come shooting out of the follicles.

The shedding usually slows down after the first week or two, right ladies?

Something that your predicament is making me wonder though - how long have you been on your regimen (without the Ovation)?? If in just a week, something changed in your hair enough to make it OVERMOISTURISED - that's' got me thinking that the Ovation line actually HELPS your hair retain moisture better - which is why all that you were doing is suddenly overkill, now.

Hrrrm, that would be MOST interesting.

Anyone else noticing that their previous reggie seems to be working BETTER/FASTER now?

I have been DCing (with heat) 3x per week for months now. And my hair seemed to respond pretty well. The only thing thats changed in my routine has been the OCT and now that I think about it I just started adding honeyquat to my DC's. So maybe between the DC's, the honeyquat and the OCT creme rinse my hair has had ENOUGH and decided to leave.

Hopefully I can get it back under control and find the balance between protien and moisture.

Thank you so much for the advice.

 

[CocoBunny]

This is the exact regimen I do and I immediately lose an excessive amount of hairs after using the creme rinse.

I will wash next week without the creme rinse and see if it makes any difference...

Maybe the creme rinse is the culprit? erplexed More than likely it's COMBINATION of DCing plus creme rinse equals moisture overload. Please let us know what happens on your next wash without the creme rinse.

 

[CocoBunny]

This morning I took off the baggy ran my fingers thru the ends of my hair and about 25 long strands came off in my hand. When pulled the strands stretched then snapped almost instantly.


Oh please don't say that.....

I think I was in denial saying 25 strands, it was probably double that amount. My heart just sank. But thanks to the support and advice of the fabulous ladies here on the Board, I am no longer panicing and now know what I need to do and not do.

 

[Jetblackhair]

I like this reggie JBH. I think I'll be using this one. It makes good sense too. Thanks for posting.

Hey Aggie, you're welcome. I've been spending the last month trying to figure out the best regimen for using the products on my hair.

My hair is sensitive and temperamental and can get quite mad at me if I don't do things just right.

 

[Aggie]

Ooohweee! That sounds like a SERIOUS moisture overload - you, my dear, have overmoisturised your hair. Now! This is nothing to be upset/worried about, as you are now in the fabulous position of having maxed out your hairs moisture level, and from now on, all you have to do is maintain.

I would NOT jump to the heavy-duty protein just yet - that'll throw off that lovely balance you are almost at. Instead, drop the DC's to once a week, for the next week, and drop the baggying to once a week, as well. That should give your hair time to 'naturally' dry out a little, and if you continue with the full OCT line, I really think that it will give you just the right balance that you need.

Just remember to continue to be GENTLE with your hair - you want to ramp down the moisture gradually, and you don't want to break a lot of hair in the process. Treat your hair like an invalid for a little while.....

If after the week, your hair is still 'spongy', step it up to a light/medium protein treatment - remember, you WANT your hair to be moist, just not THAT moist - and you don't want to overcompensate and ramp up the protein TOO much. I'd suspect that your hair should be good at that point - and you can continue on maintaining it - once weekly DC's/sealing/baggying, three times a week with the full Ovation line, daily Cell Therapy treatment
I think you'll be set!

As far as the long strands coming out, I suspect that a GOOD sign - that should be the shed that most people experience when the OCT/MT starts working - since it's speeding up the rate of your follicles, all of the hairs that were CLOSE to shedding, are shedding right now so that those brand new, fast growing hairs can come shooting out of the follicles.

The shedding usually slows down after the first week or two, right ladies?

Something that your predicament is making me wonder though - how long have you been on your regimen (without the Ovation)?? If in just a week, something changed in your hair enough to make it OVERMOISTURISED - that's' got me thinking that the Ovation line actually HELPS your hair retain moisture better - which is why all that you were doing is suddenly overkill, now.

Hrrrm, that would be MOST interesting.

Anyone else noticing that their previous reggie seems to be working BETTER/FASTER now?



Okay. What I suspect is going on, is that the Creme Rinse (based off of the ingredients that the fabulous RZILYNT strained her eyes to see!) has NO protein in it, at all. I'd have to do some investigation of the ingredients (as I don't recognize a blamed one, besides the water ), but I'd suspect most of the ingredients are moisturisers, and thus, it balances out the levels of protein in the CT. And, I betcha the shampoo has SLS in it, which would 'strip' any additional protein residue off of your hair.

I'm totally guessing, based on her answer and the ingredients I know, but I betcha that's what's going on.



THANK YOU!!!!


Hrrm. The Eqyss version (Cloud Nine) is definitely different, but I suspect if I took a look at the ingredients, the 'different' ones would be the ones that make your hair 'feel' good, and makes it 'thicker' and makes it 'lather' up. I might do a product deconstruction tomorrow.....

Hey Kiya, this is excellent deduction you have here and it all makes perfect sense. Girl you are smart! We've got our own personal hair einstein right here, WOOHOO!!! Praise the lord.

 

[Jetblackhair]

Hey Kiya, this is excellent deduction you have here and it all makes perfect sense. Girl you are smart! We've got our own personal hair einstein right here, WOOHOO!!! Praise the lord.

ITA, JK is great. We need to have a sticky, "Ask JustKiya"

 

[Aggie]

ITA, JK is great. We need to have a sticky, "Ask JustKiya"

hmmm, sounds like a good idea.

 

[JustKiya]

I have been DCing (with heat) 3x per week for months now. And my hair seemed to respond pretty well. The only thing thats changed in my routine has been the OCT and now that I think about it I just started adding honeyquat to my DC's. So maybe between the DC's, the honeyquat and the OCT creme rinse my hair has had ENOUGH and decided to leave.

Hopefully I can get it back under control and find the balance between protien and moisture.

Thank you so much for the advice.

AHHHH!!! Dimes to doughnuts, it's the honeyquat, not the OCT. That stuff is an INTENSE moisturiser, and it works long term, so like glycerin, it's pulling moisture into your hair all. day. long.
Doing that three times a week AND baggying? Oh yeah, your hair just had ENOUGH.

 

[JustKiya]

Hey Kiya, this is excellent deduction you have here and it all makes perfect sense. Girl you are smart! We've got our own personal hair einstein right here, WOOHOO!!! Praise the lord.

ITA, JK is great. We need to have a sticky, "Ask JustKiya"

hmmm, sounds like a good idea.

Thank ya'll!!!!! Ya'll are TOO much - I'm just hair crazy, and I love puzzling things out.....and I'm seriously hairmad.

And it's fun, besides.

 

[january noir]

I've been reading many of the recent posts.

This is what I've been trying to say all along for the users of Ovation line
You get the best results from using the "System;" not just the Cell Therapy alone. Why?

1. The shampoo prepares the scalp and hair for maximum absorption of the Cell Therapy.
2. The Cell Therapy is the product that strenghthens the hair
3. The Creme Rinse smooths and moisturizes, balancing the protein in the Cell Therapy and allowing easy combouts, i.e. less breakage

It's all balanced for you. You shouldn't have to add oils and SAAs or anything else. That is another reason why it is more expensive than the equine products, they take the guesswork out of the equation.

 

[Aggie]

AHHHH!!! Dimes to doughnuts, it's the honeyquat, not the OCT. That stuff is an INTENSE moisturiser, and it works long term, so like glycerin, it's pulling moisture into your hair all. day. long.
Doing that three times a week AND baggying? Oh yeah, your hair just had ENOUGH.

Holy crap yeah! I have honeyquat and I can't even use it too often for my hair so now I just add it to my lotions for my skin, which by the way, is looking kissable soft now.

 

[JustKiya]

I've been reading many of the recent posts.

This is what I've been trying to say all along for the users of Ovation line
You get the best results from using the "System;" not just the Cell Therapy alone. Why?

1. The shampoo prepares the scalp and hair for maximum absorption of the Cell Therapy.
2. The Cell Therapy is the product that strenghthens the hair
3. The Creme Rinse smooths and moisturizes, balancing the protein in the Cell Therapy and allowing easy combouts, i.e. less breakage

It's all balanced for you. You shouldn't have to add oils and SAAs or anything else. That is another reason why it is more expensive than the equine products, they take the guesswork out of the equation.

Wow. I don't even USE shampoo (and I'm cheap), and you have me wanting to go and get the whole line.

That's an EXCELLENT point!!!!! Very, very, VERY good point - I wholeheartedly agree.



Dammit!